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Mark Wheeler

How to use LCD TV for P3 monitor?

I am trying to connect a 22” LCD TV to the P3 SVGA connection via the TV HDMI connection. I purchased a 9 pin serial to HDMI cable but the P3 does not appear to see it. I switched to the 2nd HDMI port on the TV, but still no joy. I have enabled the SVGA monitor option in the P3 menu settings also. Any suggestions?

I do see on Amazon that I can buy a 19-22” LCD monitor for about $100...

Thank you,
Mark
WU6R

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Jim Wilson

Re: How to use LCD TV for P3 monitor?

Mark,

I could be wrong but I think there's a bit more electronics
needed. You can search for VGA to HDMI
converter - also on Amazon.

They seem to be around $10 to $15.

Jim - W4RKS
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Barry Baines

Re: How to use LCD TV for P3 monitor?

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Mark:

> On May 27, 2018, at 4:18 PM, Mark Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I am trying to connect a 22” LCD TV to the P3 SVGA connection via the TV HDMI connection. I purchased a 9 pin serial to HDMI cable but the P3 does not appear to see it. I switched to the 2nd HDMI port on the TV, but still no joy. I have enabled the SVGA monitor option in the P3 menu settings also. Any suggestions?

The P3 has a 15-pin connector (5-5-5 pins per row) for SVGA which provides an analog video output. It is not a 9-pin serial output as you mentioned above. The 9-pin RS-232 serial ports located next to the SVGA port (if installed) the P3 are for interconnecting the P3 to the K3 (“XCVR”) and Personal Computer. So the first thing to check is to ensure that the SVGA video port is indeed installed.

On-the-surface, it appears you’ll need a SVGA-to-HDMI converter to convert an analog signal from the P3 to a digital signal compatible with HDMI. SVGA was initially defined as 1024 x 768 8-bit resolution, but the P3 P3 SVGA adapter can handle up to 1920 x 1080 resolution (See: “P3SVGA Option Installation and Operating Instructions” p. 3 that is available on the Elecraft website) so make certain that whatever device you purchase is compatible with the resolution levels of the P3SVGA.

>
> I do see on Amazon that I can buy a 19-22” LCD monitor for about $100…

But with what kind of video interface does it have: Is SVGA available or only digital (DVI or HDMI)?

Hope this helps,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
(Currently in Columbia, SC)

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Don Wilhelm

Re: How to use LCD TV for P3 monitor?

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Mark,

The P3 SVGA adapter will not support all VGA displays (but it will do
most). There is no guarantee that a VGA to HDMI converter will work,
but you are welcome to try and report those which do work as well as
those that do not.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/27/2018 4:18 PM, Mark Wheeler wrote:
> I am trying to connect a 22” LCD TV to the P3 SVGA connection via the TV HDMI connection. I purchased a 9 pin serial to HDMI cable but the P3 does not appear to see it. I switched to the 2nd HDMI port on the TV, but still no joy. I have enabled the SVGA monitor option in the P3 menu settings also. Any suggestions?
>
> I do see on Amazon that I can buy a 19-22” LCD monitor for about $100...
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Phil Kane-2

Re: How to use LCD TV for P3 monitor?

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On 5/27/2018 3:55 PM, Barry Baines wrote:

> But with what kind of video interface does it have: Is SVGA available or only digital (DVI or HDMI)?

"Down-conversion" is no problem, but make sure that the adapter is one
for converting S/VGA to HDMI and not the reverse. There are several
available from "the usual sources".

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Mark Wheeler

Re: How to use LCD TV for P3 monitor?

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Barry,

Great info. Thank you.

Mark
WU6R

> On May 27, 2018, at 6:55 PM, Barry Baines <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Mark:
>
>> On May 27, 2018, at 4:18 PM, Mark Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I am trying to connect a 22” LCD TV to the P3 SVGA connection via the TV HDMI connection. I purchased a 9 pin serial to HDMI cable but the P3 does not appear to see it. I switched to the 2nd HDMI port on the TV, but still no joy. I have enabled the SVGA monitor option in the P3 menu settings also. Any suggestions?
>
> The P3 has a 15-pin connector (5-5-5 pins per row) for SVGA which provides an analog video output. It is not a 9-pin serial output as you mentioned above. The 9-pin RS-232 serial ports located next to the SVGA port (if installed) the P3 are for interconnecting the P3 to the K3 (“XCVR”) and Personal Computer. So the first thing to check is to ensure that the SVGA video port is indeed installed.
>
> On-the-surface, it appears you’ll need a SVGA-to-HDMI converter to convert an analog signal from the P3 to a digital signal compatible with HDMI. SVGA was initially defined as 1024 x 768 8-bit resolution, but the P3 P3 SVGA adapter can handle up to 1920 x 1080 resolution (See: “P3SVGA Option Installation and Operating Instructions” p. 3 that is available on the Elecraft website) so make certain that whatever device you purchase is compatible with the resolution levels of the P3SVGA.
>
>>
>> I do see on Amazon that I can buy a 19-22” LCD monitor for about $100…
>
>
> But with what kind of video interface does it have: Is SVGA available or only digital (DVI or HDMI)?
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Barry Baines, WD4ASW
> (Currently in Columbia, SC)
>
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Mark
>> WU6R
>>
>>
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Mark Wheeler

Re: How to use LCD TV for P3 monitor?

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Don,

Will do. Thanks.

Mark
WU6R

> On May 27, 2018, at 7:17 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> The P3 SVGA adapter will not support all VGA displays (but it will do most). There is no guarantee that a VGA to HDMI converter will work, but you are welcome to try and report those which do work as well as those that do not.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>> On 5/27/2018 4:18 PM, Mark Wheeler wrote:
>> I am trying to connect a 22” LCD TV to the P3 SVGA connection via the TV HDMI connection. I purchased a 9 pin serial to HDMI cable but the P3 does not appear to see it. I switched to the 2nd HDMI port on the TV, but still no joy. I have enabled the SVGA monitor option in the P3 menu settings also. Any suggestions?
>> I do see on Amazon that I can buy a 19-22” LCD monitor for about $100...

Phil Hystad-3

Re: How to use LCD TV for P3 monitor?

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A rant of the day:

But, there is a big looming question — one I had when the SVGA feature was released. Why wasn’t it directly an HDMI interface in the first place. Today, finding a good display with the latest features that still supports SVGA is a no-go almost. I believe that was probably the case when P3/SVGA was released too or they were at least on equal footing. Let’s face it, flat screen TVs changed everything.

There should be an HDMI interface option made available for the P3. I have not yet bought the SVGA and I probably won’t because my only spare 20 inch display (I use as extra display for iMac at times and also with RPi) is HDMI and DVI capable but not SVGA. No plans to buy a converter cable either.

My RPi has HDMI chip on it — the entire RPi board is only $30 so the chip itself must be cheap — just looked up on Mouser, TI HDMI interface IC in units of 250+ is $2.82. Of course, there is more cost then the chip but still, I am betting on equal terms with SVGA costs.

OK, I am climbing down from the rant bench.

73, PEH

> On May 27, 2018, at 4:17 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> The P3 SVGA adapter will not support all VGA displays (but it will do most). There is no guarantee that a VGA to HDMI converter will work, but you are welcome to try and report those which do work as well as those that do not.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 5/27/2018 4:18 PM, Mark Wheeler wrote:
>> I am trying to connect a 22” LCD TV to the P3 SVGA connection via the TV HDMI connection. I purchased a 9 pin serial to HDMI cable but the P3 does not appear to see it. I switched to the 2nd HDMI port on the TV, but still no joy. I have enabled the SVGA monitor option in the P3 menu settings also. Any suggestions?
>> I do see on Amazon that I can buy a 19-22” LCD monitor for about $100...
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Michael Blake

Re: How to use LCD TV for P3 monitor?

Phil, I too have not ordered an SVGA adapter for my P3 as my 4K display only supports HDMI inputs. I have hopes that Elecraft will offer an HDMI adapter in the (hopefully near) future.

Very 73 - Mike - K9JRI

> On May 27, 2018, at 10:30 PM, Phil Hystad <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> A rant of the day:
>
> But, there is a big looming question — one I had when the SVGA feature was released. Why wasn’t it directly an HDMI interface in the first place. Today, finding a good display with the latest features that still supports SVGA is a no-go almost. I believe that was probably the case when P3/SVGA was released too or they were at least on equal footing. Let’s face it, flat screen TVs changed everything.
>
> There should be an HDMI interface option made available for the P3. I have not yet bought the SVGA and I probably won’t because my only spare 20 inch display (I use as extra display for iMac at times and also with RPi) is HDMI and DVI capable but not SVGA. No plans to buy a converter cable either.
>
> My RPi has HDMI chip on it — the entire RPi board is only $30 so the chip itself must be cheap — just looked up on Mouser, TI HDMI interface IC in units of 250+ is $2.82. Of course, there is more cost then the chip but still, I am betting on equal terms with SVGA costs.
>
> OK, I am climbing down from the rant bench.
>
> 73, PEH
>
>> On May 27, 2018, at 4:17 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> The P3 SVGA adapter will not support all VGA displays (but it will do most). There is no guarantee that a VGA to HDMI converter will work, but you are welcome to try and report those which do work as well as those that do not.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 5/27/2018 4:18 PM, Mark Wheeler wrote:
>>> I am trying to connect a 22” LCD TV to the P3 SVGA connection via the TV HDMI connection. I purchased a 9 pin serial to HDMI cable but the P3 does not appear to see it. I switched to the 2nd HDMI port on the TV, but still no joy. I have enabled the SVGA monitor option in the P3 menu settings also. Any suggestions?
>>> I do see on Amazon that I can buy a 19-22” LCD monitor for about $100...
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Jim Shepherd

Re: How to use LCD TV for P3 monitor?

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The eSynic VC043 (available from Amazon for $12.95) works well with the P3
and a HDMI monitor. The one thing you will need to do is supply 5 Vdc to
the USB plug on this unit. The USB on the back of the P3 does not work to
provide power to this unit so you will need another source like your
computer.

I brought this issue with the lack of power with the USB on the P3 up in
another thread a few days ago and have not received any response.

Jim W6US
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RICHH

Re: How to use LCD TV for P3 monitor?

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Hi I bought this monitor from Best Buy and it works fine.

AOC E2060SWDA 195 LED HD Monitor Textured Black
<https://www.bestbuy.com/site/aoc-19-5-led-monitor-textured-black/3541004.p?skuId=3541004&ref=17&loc=11&CampaignID=898485&SubscriberID=532734344>
*Model: *E2060SWDA
*SKU: *3541004
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