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wb0m@flashdog.us

IC-756 ProIII & K3S

Hello Everyone,

I am considering selling my Icom IC-756 ProIII, with Inrad roofing filter, to help pay for a future K3S. While at the moment I am somewhat inactive, due to work and my remodeling of my home, I don’t see myself getting a K3S until Spring.

However, I the more I wait, the more the ProIII the value declines. I still have another rig to use.

Question: In replacing the ProIII, what would be the best most economical add ons to the K3S? I really like the fact that the Pro III has the “Dual Watch” feature and I use a multi-band antenna via Icom remote antenna “tuner” (AH-4). I would to use the K3S with an SGC coupler (I think I’ve read that you can program the K3 to provide 10 watts to “tune” the antenna).

I”d like to hear from anyone who has gone from the Pro III to the K3 or K3S and get their advice (all others are welcome, too).

Tnx & 73,

Jeff
wb0m
Nebraska
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James Bennett

Re: IC-756 ProIII & K3S

Jeff -

I sold a Pro III (and my little old K2) back in 2010 in order to help pay for my K3. I am not one bit sorry I did that! I started out with a K3/100 kit, internal ATU and two additional filters: the 400 Hz 8 pole and the 1.8 KHz 8 pole filter. I loved it in this rather “bare” configuration, but…..

After moving to a new QTH and freeing up additional funds, I added the sub receiver, two meter module, FM filter, and KX144RFLK. Having the second receiver is great, as it allows me a lot of flexibility with antenna selection and diversity receive. I use an 88 foot long doublet for transmit on 60 - 6 meters; a Hustler 5BTV ground mounted as my diversity receive antenna. Because it is connected to the ANT2 port, I can also transmit into the vertical as well as receive, should I want to.

I’ve also added the P3, KAT500, and KPA500 to the lineup. I highly recommend the P3. It is unbelievably useful.

Sell that Icom - you won’t be sorry.

73, Jim / W6JHB
Folsom, CA

> On Wednesday, Sep 9, 2015, at Wednesday, 11:10 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I am considering selling my Icom IC-756 ProIII, with Inrad roofing filter, to help pay for a future K3S. While at the moment I am somewhat inactive, due to work and my remodeling of my home, I don’t see myself getting a K3S until Spring.
>
> However, I the more I wait, the more the ProIII the value declines. I still have another rig to use.
>
> Question: In replacing the ProIII, what would be the best most economical add ons to the K3S? I really like the fact that the Pro III has the “Dual Watch” feature and I use a multi-band antenna via Icom remote antenna “tuner” (AH-4). I would to use the K3S with an SGC coupler (I think I’ve read that you can program the K3 to provide 10 watts to “tune” the antenna).
>
> I”d like to hear from anyone who has gone from the Pro III to the K3 or K3S and get their advice (all others are welcome, too).
>
> Tnx & 73,
>
> Jeff
> wb0m
> Nebraska
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Re: IC-756 ProIII & K3S

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In my opinion the K3 is a Far better radio than the Icom.
I was an Icom fan right up until I bought my K2 years ago....

From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 2:10 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] IC-756 ProIII & K3S

Hello Everyone,

I am considering selling my Icom IC-756 ProIII, with Inrad roofing filter, to help pay for a future K3S. While at the moment I am somewhat inactive, due to work and my remodeling of my home, I don’t see myself getting a K3S until Spring.

However, I the more I wait, the more the ProIII the value declines. I still have another rig to use.

Question: In replacing the ProIII, what would be the best most economical add ons to the K3S? I really like the fact that the Pro III has the “Dual Watch” feature and I use a multi-band antenna via Icom remote antenna “tuner” (AH-4). I would to use the K3S with an SGC coupler (I think I’ve read that you can program the K3 to provide 10 watts to “tune” the antenna).

I”d like to hear from anyone who has gone from the Pro III to the K3 or K3S and get their advice (all others are welcome, too).

Tnx & 73,

Jeff
wb0m
Nebraska
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Dave Matthews

Re: IC-756 ProIII & K3S

I also have an Icom Pro3 with the Inrad roofing filter, and considered
selling it when I bought my KX3 system. Looking at the going rate for
the pro3 I decided just to keep it. Sentimental value as well since it
was my first HF rig and I did the Inrad installation myself. (What a
challenge that was, but it works great!)

I hope you get a good price for the Pro3. Please let me know how that
goes... I may still look to selling mine.

In my opinion the KX3 is better and I use it almost exclusively now, but
the Pro3 is still a great rig.

Dave KI4PSR

On 9/9/2015 2:21 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:

> In my opinion the K3 is a Far better radio than the Icom.
> I was an Icom fan right up until I bought my K2 years ago....
>
>
>
>
>
> From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 2:10 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] IC-756 ProIII & K3S
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I am considering selling my Icom IC-756 ProIII, with Inrad roofing filter, to help pay for a future K3S. While at the moment I am somewhat inactive, due to work and my remodeling of my home, I don’t see myself getting a K3S until Spring.
>
> However, I the more I wait, the more the ProIII the value declines. I still have another rig to use.
>
> Question: In replacing the ProIII, what would be the best most economical add ons to the K3S? I really like the fact that the Pro III has the “Dual Watch” feature and I use a multi-band antenna via Icom remote antenna “tuner” (AH-4). I would to use the K3S with an SGC coupler (I think I’ve read that you can program the K3 to provide 10 watts to “tune” the antenna).
>
> I”d like to hear from anyone who has gone from the Pro III to the K3 or K3S and get their advice (all others are welcome, too).
>
> Tnx & 73,
>
> Jeff
> wb0m
> Nebraska
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EUGENE GABRY

Re: IC-756 ProIII & K3S

In reply to this post by wb0m@flashdog.us

Hi Jeff,

I just recently went from the PROIII to the K3S. Although, my PROIII did NOT have the Inrad roofing filters.

The gotta haves for me were 100 watts, antenna tuner, 250hz 500hz 2.1khz 2.7Khz and 6Khz roofing filters, and P3 Panadapter. I am a contester and DX chaser.
I actually ordered with 200hz 5 pole filter, but that went unavailable during the time my unit went into production. The combination of the 500hz and 250hz filters serve my purpose well. I chose not to go with the second RX at this time as I never used the dual watch on the proIII, and got very used to using the spectrum scope and switching either back and forth between split or RIT. I just never felt comfortable listening to TX/RX freqs simultaineously. Just like I struggle trying to carry on a verbal conversation and coping CW, one or the other please! Just my preference, and I'm comfortable with it :)
My main focus is contesting and was looking to improve RX capability on CW and RTTY/digital. Also wanted to get rid of all the sound card interconnects for AFSK operation. Secondary was improving SSB blocking even a little bit over the PROIII. The K3S has proven to be all and more of what I was looking for. CW and AFSK RTTY are 10 times better to work in contests. So, so much more pleasant on the brain and ears! SSB turned out even better of an improvement than I guessed there would have been. Lots more flexibility in RX tweaking with NR/AGC/RX EQ and roofing filters band width for all modes than was capable with PROIII. It used to be if I could hear them I could work them. Now I'm finding, I can hear more than I can work, quickly! I have found another layer or two that was always there but couldn't hear.
It all comes down to what you "gotta have" for your operating style. For me the gotta haves were better RX filtering/flexibility, P3 to see the band, 100 watts and antenna tuner, and able to get all the sound card cables and interface stuff out of the way.

BTW, PROIII's are still holding value pretty well. I don't think their value will change much between now and spring. Although, if you have another rig to keep you on the air till then, you could sell now just to make sure.
I purchased my PROIII used in 2009 and could have sold it for a bit more than I paid, but ended up selling it to my son for a little less. They are holding value, "I think" due to the price tag of newer rigs hitting the market, keeping the price tag somewhat inflated for the older rigs with attractive functionality, IMHO.

You will not regret a K3 or K3S.

73 and good luck!

Gene, N9TF

K3S 10057

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Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 1:10:56 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] IC-756 ProIII & K3S

Hello Everyone,

I am considering selling my Icom IC-756 ProIII, with Inrad roofing filter, to help pay for a future K3S. While at the moment I am somewhat inactive, due to work and my remodeling of my home, I don’t see myself getting a K3S until Spring.

However, I the more I wait, the more the ProIII the value declines. I still have another rig to use.

Question: In replacing the ProIII, what would be the best most economical add ons to the K3S? I really like the fact that the Pro III has the “Dual Watch” feature and I use a multi-band antenna via Icom remote antenna “tuner” (AH-4). I would to use the K3S with an SGC coupler (I think I’ve read that you can program the K3 to provide 10 watts to “tune” the antenna).

I”d like to hear from anyone who has gone from the Pro III to the K3 or K3S and get their advice (all others are welcome, too).

Tnx & 73,

Jeff
wb0m
Nebraska
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Wes (N7WS)

Re: IC-756 ProIII & K3S

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Note that I own a K3, a K3S, a KPA500 a KAT500 and the BC342N I got my start
with 60 years ago. I'm generally pleased with them all.

I did own an Icom IC-211 once. After fixing it more times that I can remember I
gave it to a friend who also had one. I often said that it was a measure of his
character that I gave him that radio and yet we remained friends. So, I've
never been a fan of Icom. That said, if Rob Sherwood's QRZ page is up to date,
the guy whose words are gospel to the Elecraft (dare I say Koolaid
drinkers...nah) crowd, has Kenwood, Icon and Flex radios in his shack. Not an
Elecraft in sight.

I don't know what that means...just an observation.

Wes N7WS

On 9/9/2015 12:21 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:

Greg - AB7R

Re: IC-756 ProIII & K3S

It's simple.....for Rob a radio is not all about the numbers. You have to enjoy what you are operating and those are what he happens to enjoy.

73
Greg

----- Original Message -----
From: Wes (N7WS) <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Wed, 09 Sep 2015 18:06:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] IC-756 ProIII & K3S

Note that I own a K3, a K3S, a KPA500 a KAT500 and the BC342N I got my start
with 60 years ago. I'm generally pleased with them all.

I did own an Icom IC-211 once. After fixing it more times that I can remember I
gave it to a friend who also had one. I often said that it was a measure of his
character that I gave him that radio and yet we remained friends. So, I've
never been a fan of Icom. That said, if Rob Sherwood's QRZ page is up to date,
the guy whose words are gospel to the Elecraft (dare I say Koolaid
drinkers...nah) crowd, has Kenwood, Icon and Flex radios in his shack. Not an
Elecraft in sight.

I don't know what that means...just an observation.

Wes N7WS

On 9/9/2015 12:21 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:

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Gary Gregory-2

Re: IC-756 ProIII & K3S

I sold a pair of PROIII's when my K3 arrived and two things to note, first
I saved a huge amount of room, secondly I found one radio that outperforms
two being replaced. Economically wise decision?....nah, just a damn good one

Gary

On 10 September 2015 at 08:12, <[hidden email]> wrote:

> It's simple.....for Rob a radio is not all about the numbers. You have to
> enjoy what you are operating and those are what he happens to enjoy.
>
> 73
> Greg
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Wes (N7WS) <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Wed, 09 Sep 2015 18:06:10 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] IC-756 ProIII & K3S
>
> Note that I own a K3, a K3S, a KPA500 a KAT500 and the BC342N I got my
> start
> with 60 years ago. I'm generally pleased with them all.
>
> I did own an Icom IC-211 once. After fixing it more times that I can
> remember I
> gave it to a friend who also had one. I often said that it was a measure
> of his
> character that I gave him that radio and yet we remained friends. So, I've
> never been a fan of Icom. That said, if Rob Sherwood's QRZ page is up to
> date,
> the guy whose words are gospel to the Elecraft (dare I say Koolaid
> drinkers...nah) crowd, has Kenwood, Icon and Flex radios in his shack.
> Not an
> Elecraft in sight.
>
> I don't know what that means...just an observation.
>
> Wes N7WS
>
> On 9/9/2015 12:21 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
> > In my opinion the K3 is a Far better radio than the Icom.
> > I was an Icom fan right up until I bought my K2 years ago....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 2:10 PM
> > Subject: [Elecraft] IC-756 ProIII & K3S
> >
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > I am considering selling my Icom IC-756 ProIII, with Inrad roofing
> filter, to help pay for a future K3S. While at the moment I am somewhat
> inactive, due to work and my remodeling of my home, I don’t see myself
> getting a K3S until Spring.
> >
> > However, I the more I wait, the more the ProIII the value declines. I
> still have another rig to use.
> >
> > Question: In replacing the ProIII, what would be the best most
> economical add ons to the K3S? I really like the fact that the Pro III has
> the “Dual Watch” feature and I use a multi-band antenna via Icom remote
> antenna “tuner” (AH-4). I would to use the K3S with an SGC coupler (I think
> I’ve read that you can program the K3 to provide 10 watts to “tune” the
> antenna).
> >
> > I”d like to hear from anyone who has gone from the Pro III to the K3 or
> K3S and get their advice (all others are welcome, too).
> >
> > Tnx & 73,
> >
> > Jeff
> > wb0m
> > Nebraska
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Re: IC-756 ProIII & K3S

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I have to echo these thoughts... When I purchased my K3, (not S), I A/B
compared both to each other... I was perfectly ready to sell the K3 if
it did not perform a lot better... My goal was the best rig possible on
my budget...

I was going to take a month to do the A/B, as I expected them to be
close, in under a week I put the Pro III up for sale... The K3 is that
much better, period... I have several hams living close, and the K3
simply erases them unless they are with in 10 or 15 KHz, and running a
KW... The Pro III was wiped out when they opened up...

I hear another layer of stations I simply did not hear with the Pro III.
You will not be sorry...

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On Wed, 2015-09-09 at 22:02 +0000, [hidden email] wrote:

> Hi Jeff,
>
> I just recently went from the PROIII to the K3S. Although, my PROIII did NOT have the Inrad roofing filters.
>
> The gotta haves for me were 100 watts, antenna tuner, 250hz 500hz 2.1khz 2.7Khz and 6Khz roofing filters, and P3 Panadapter. I am a contester and DX chaser.
> I actually ordered with 200hz 5 pole filter, but that went unavailable during the time my unit went into production. The combination of the 500hz and 250hz filters serve my purpose well. I chose not to go with the second RX at this time as I never used the dual watch on the proIII, and got very used to using the spectrum scope and switching either back and forth between split or RIT. I just never felt comfortable listening to TX/RX freqs simultaineously. Just like I struggle trying to carry on a verbal conversation and coping CW, one or the other please! Just my preference, and I'm comfortable with it :)
> My main focus is contesting and was looking to improve RX capability on CW and RTTY/digital. Also wanted to get rid of all the sound card interconnects for AFSK operation. Secondary was improving SSB blocking even a little bit over the PROIII. The K3S has proven to be all and more of what I was looking for. CW and AFSK RTTY are 10 times better to work in contests. So, so much more pleasant on the brain and ears! SSB turned out even better of an improvement than I guessed there would have been. Lots more flexibility in RX tweaking with NR/AGC/RX EQ and roofing filters band width for all modes than was capable with PROIII. It used to be if I could hear them I could work them. Now I'm finding, I can hear more than I can work, quickly! I have found another layer or two that was always there but couldn't hear.
> It all comes down to what you "gotta have" for your operating style. For me the gotta haves were better RX filtering/flexibility, P3 to see the band, 100 watts and antenna tuner, and able to get all the sound card cables and interface stuff out of the way.
>
> BTW, PROIII's are still holding value pretty well. I don't think their value will change much between now and spring. Although, if you have another rig to keep you on the air till then, you could sell now just to make sure.
> I purchased my PROIII used in 2009 and could have sold it for a bit more than I paid, but ended up selling it to my son for a little less. They are holding value, "I think" due to the price tag of newer rigs hitting the market, keeping the price tag somewhat inflated for the older rigs with attractive functionality, IMHO.
>
> You will not regret a K3 or K3S.
>
> 73 and good luck!
>
> Gene, N9TF
>
> K3S 10057
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: [hidden email]
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 1:10:56 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] IC-756 ProIII & K3S
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I am considering selling my Icom IC-756 ProIII, with Inrad roofing filter, to help pay for a future K3S. While at the moment I am somewhat inactive, due to work and my remodeling of my home, I don’t see myself getting a K3S until Spring.
>
> However, I the more I wait, the more the ProIII the value declines. I still have another rig to use.
>
> Question: In replacing the ProIII, what would be the best most economical add ons to the K3S? I really like the fact that the Pro III has the “Dual Watch” feature and I use a multi-band antenna via Icom remote antenna “tuner” (AH-4). I would to use the K3S with an SGC coupler (I think I’ve read that you can program the K3 to provide 10 watts to “tune” the antenna).
>
> I”d like to hear from anyone who has gone from the Pro III to the K3 or K3S and get their advice (all others are welcome, too).
>
> Tnx & 73,
>
> Jeff
> wb0m
> Nebraska
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