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tomb18

IS command...only for main receiver? What about sub?

Hi,

Anyone know how one gets the IF shift for the sub receiver? BW$ gets the bandwidth, but there is no IS$?

Any other way to get this?

Thanks

Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: IS command...only for main receiver? What about sub?

IS; sets both main and sub Rx.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 4/10/2013 5:57 PM, tomb18 wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Anyone know how one gets the IF shift for the sub receiver? BW$ gets the
> bandwidth, but there is no IS$?
>
> Any other way to get this?
>
> Thanks
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tomb18

Re: IS command...only for main receiver? What about sub?

Hmmm, That's true in diversity mode but not in dual watch. Both bandwidth and shift and hi-low controls are completely independent. It's possible to retrieve BW from both receivers but shift only from the main receiver.
Try it, just tap the sub button and use bset.

Seems like an omission, unless there is another command?

Tom

Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: IS command...only for main receiver? What about sub?

All I know is that setting IS for the main RX also sets IS for
the sub RX.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 4/10/2013 7:23 PM, tomb18 wrote:

> Hmmm, That's true in diversity mode but not in dual watch. Both bandwidth
> and shift and hi-low controls are completely independent. It's possible to
> retrieve BW from both receivers but shift only from the main receiver.
> Try it, just tap the sub button and use bset.
>
> Seems like an omission, unless there is another command?
>
> Tom
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tomb18

Re: IS command...only for main receiver? What about sub?

Nope. only in diversity. Otherwise IS only sets the main receiver. If you go into bset it doesn't change it and if you then give a IS; it only reports a question mark. IS never changes the sub receiver shift except in diversity.

alsopb

Re: IS command...only for main receiver? What about sub?

Won't setting it in the main and doing A>B twice to copy all to subrx work?

73 de Brian/K3KO

On 4/11/2013 00:56, tomb18 wrote:

> Nope. only in diversity. Otherwise IS only sets the main receiver. If you
> go into bset it doesn't change it and if you then give a IS; it only reports
> a question mark. IS never changes the sub receiver shift except in
> diversity.
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tomb18

Re: IS command...only for main receiver? What about sub?

Hi,

Yes A>B will work but if you want to have different filters on the two receivers then you need to set up the sub like you say and then set up the main. I'm writing a K3 interface and I wanted to bring these out so they could be set independently without doing the A>B. Looks like it's not going to be possible.
Thank

Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: IS command...only for main receiver? What about sub?

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*WRONG!* I use it in my mode specific set-up macros in DXKeeper
(WinWarbler) to reset the sub RX filters when switching among Phone
(IS 1400;), DATA A (IS 9000;), FSK D (IS 9000;) and CW (IS 9000;).
If I fail to include the IS command, the sub RX filters are not
centered when switching from Phone to CW/DATA A/FSK D because the
BW command leaves the center frequency unchanged.

I do not use diversity in those modes - I regularly use dual RX.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 4/10/2013 8:56 PM, tomb18 wrote:

tomb18

Re: IS command...only for main receiver? What about sub?

That's strange, just tried it. Took DATA A for example, set a width and shift. Went to BSET, set a different shift and BW, went back to the main receiver, set link for the sub mode and issued the commands you mentioned. It reset the main receiver but not the sub. So WinWarbler must do something like an A>B without you knowing it.

The trick of the IS 9000 is cool though...didn't know that existed for resetting the shift.
73's

Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: IS command...only for main receiver? What about sub?

> set link for the sub mode and issued the commands you mentioned.
> It reset the main receiver but not the sub.

There is no "link" involved.

> So WinWarbler must do something like an A>B without you knowing it.

Winwarbler/Commander is not doing *anything* other than passing the
commands I specify.

> The trick of the IS 9000 is cool though...didn't know that existed for
> resetting the shift.

It's in the programmer's manual. In addition to shifting between phone
and other modes, failure to use IS is particularly apparent when jumping
between DATA A and FSK D.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 4/11/2013 12:21 AM, tomb18 wrote:

> That's strange, just tried it. Took DATA A for example, set a width and
> shift. Went to BSET, set a different shift and BW, went back to the main
> receiver, set link for the sub mode and issued the commands you mentioned.
> It reset the main receiver but not the sub. So WinWarbler must do something
> like an A>B without you knowing it.
>
> The trick of the IS 9000 is cool though...didn't know that existed for
> resetting the shift.
> 73's
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Iain MacDonnell - N6ML-2

Re: IS command...only for main receiver? What about sub?

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FWIW, the 'IS' command does NOT seem to have an effect on the Sub-RX
for me - e.g. in phone mode, with the sub on (no diversity), if I send
"IS 1500;", the main RX shifts, but the sub does not ... until I
invoke 'A>B ALL'. I wouldn't have expected IS to affect both
receivers. I'm not sure what Joe is experiencing. There does seem to
be a case for an 'IS$', or some way of manipulating the Sub-RX IS by
command.... wonder if Wayne is listening......

73,

~iain / N6ML

On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> *WRONG!* I use it in my mode specific set-up macros in DXKeeper
> (WinWarbler) to reset the sub RX filters when switching among Phone
> (IS 1400;), DATA A (IS 9000;), FSK D (IS 9000;) and CW (IS 9000;).
> If I fail to include the IS command, the sub RX filters are not
> centered when switching from Phone to CW/DATA A/FSK D because the
> BW command leaves the center frequency unchanged.
>
> I do not use diversity in those modes - I regularly use dual RX.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
>
> On 4/10/2013 8:56 PM, tomb18 wrote:
>>
>> Nope. only in diversity. Otherwise IS only sets the main receiver. If
>> you
>> go into bset it doesn't change it and if you then give a IS; it only
>> reports
>> a question mark. IS never changes the sub receiver shift except in
>> diversity.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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tomb18

Re: IS command...only for main receiver? What about sub?

Great....I'm not crazy (lol). Good to have someone else confirm this.

Yes an IS$ would be worth it. I have found a few other things that are missing, when I am finished with my app, I'll post a summary.

Thanks