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Idea for the P3

Paul Wilton
Having been playing around with the P3 for the first time, can I suggest a future feature please. Whilst the built in display is very nice, it would be helpful if it were possible to get the spectrum data in a PC in realtime (ish). There are a couple of applications for this but the main one is to integrate the waterfall/spectrum with DX spots. At the moment I run N1MM+ for VHF contesting. My station is optimised for Search and Pounce (S&P). I have an IF tap into my K2 and use a soft rock plus USB sound card to get a waterfall band map using Waterfall Bandmap(WBM).  WBM integrates with N1MM+ and shows cluster spots/stations I have worked) along the frequency axis. Hence if I see signals in the waterfall I can quickly see if I have worked/need them.

N1MM+ has also introduced a similar spectrum display but that only works with the IC7300 or with WBM.  Hence it would be really great if the P3 could offer a data stream out. It would be something for that spare USB connector on the back panel of the SVGA option - although I appreciate that it would need new hardware.

Just a thought

Paul
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Re: Idea for the P3

k6dgw
There is an option for the P3 that adds an SVGA video output [plus a few
other features] which can drive a large monitor.  If however, you mean
access to the internal data stream from the FFT, I don't believe it is
available.

It would be a nice featurefor remote operators. I operate W7RN remotely
from my home.  When my K3 is in TERM mode controlling the remote radio,
my P3 sees the last frequency I was on locally +/- 10 KHz [I usually
leave it on 20 KHz span], usually on 80 meters from the previous night.  
The K3 receiver, up to the ADC I think, is still operating in TERM mode,
and I can see signals in that range.  The P3 is what I look at 99.5% of
the time and I miss it when running remote.  The only option I would
have now is about 60 km of RG-58 to bring the 1st IF down to my P3. [:-))

The REALLY cool option would be an IP interface and a P3-ish display for
the control end, also with an IP interface.  I fear however that,
although the number of remote operations is growing, it's still too
small a market to make something like this profitable for Elecraft.

73,

Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn

On 7/3/2017 11:53 AM, Paul Wilton wrote:
> Having been playing around with the P3 for the first time, can I suggest a future feature please. Whilst the built in display is very nice, it would be helpful if it were possible to get the spectrum data in a PC in realtime (ish). There are a couple of applications for this but the main one is to integrate the waterfall/spectrum with DX spots.

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Re: Idea for the P3

Bill Frantz
Wayne has posted about using a device which sends VGA over IP to
a remote location to display the P3 VGA display remotely. That
is off-the-shelf hardware he got from, I think, Amazon.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 7/3/17 at 1:38 PM, [hidden email] (Fred Jensen) wrote:

>It would be a nice featurefor remote operators. I operate W7RN
>remotely from my home.  When my K3 is in TERM mode controlling
>the remote radio, my P3 sees the last frequency I was on
>locally +/- 10 KHz [I usually leave it on 20 KHz span], usually
>on 80 meters from the previous night.  The K3 receiver, up to
>the ADC I think, is still operating in TERM mode, and I can see
>signals in that range.  The P3 is what I look at 99.5% of the
>time and I miss it when running remote.  The only option I
>would have now is about 60 km of RG-58 to bring the 1st IF down
>to my P3. [:-))
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Re: Idea for the P3

Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT-2
Look for "KVM over IP" and shop a bit.  Some are spendy, some not so much.

On 7/3/2017 1:53 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:

> Wayne has posted about using a device which sends VGA over IP to a
> remote location to display the P3 VGA display remotely. That is
> off-the-shelf hardware he got from, I think, Amazon.
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
> On 7/3/17 at 1:38 PM, [hidden email] (Fred Jensen) wrote:
>
>> It would be a nice featurefor remote operators. I operate W7RN
>> remotely from my home.  When my K3 is in TERM mode controlling the
>> remote radio, my P3 sees the last frequency I was on locally +/- 10
>> KHz [I usually leave it on 20 KHz span], usually on 80 meters from the
>> previous night.  The K3 receiver, up to the ADC I think, is still
>> operating in TERM mode, and I can see signals in that range.  The P3
>> is what I look at 99.5% of the time and I miss it when running
>> remote.  The only option I would have now is about 60 km of RG-58 to
>> bring the 1st IF down to my P3. [:-))
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Re: Idea for the P3

Don Wilhelm
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Paul,

The P3 does not have a digital data stream output, and I am certain what
it has is not compatible with any input to the computer.
You can add the SVGA option to obtain a greatly enlarged display,
keyboard support for entering data mode text or CW, and display of the
K3 decoded PSK31/63, RTTY or CW.

If you want to continue to use the SoftRock in conjunction with the P3,
there is an IF OUT from the P3 which will allow you to do exactly that.

BTW, some other hams used my K3 with P3 for the CW station at Field Day.
  At several points they commented "It is like shooting fish in a
barrel!".  They ended up looking at the P3 rather than at the K3 display
most of the time although they tuned with the K3 VFO knob and did not
try to point with the marker and tap the knob to QSY.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/3/2017 2:53 PM, Paul Wilton wrote:
> Having been playing around with the P3 for the first time, can I suggest a future feature please. Whilst the built in display is very nice, it would be helpful if it were possible to get the spectrum data in a PC in realtime (ish). There are a couple of applications for this but the main one is to integrate the waterfall/spectrum with DX spots. At the moment I run N1MM+ for VHF contesting. My station is optimised for Search and Pounce (S&P). I have an IF tap into my K2 and use a soft rock plus USB sound card to get a waterfall band map using Waterfall Bandmap(WBM).  WBM integrates with N1MM+ and shows cluster spots/stations I have worked) along the frequency axis. Hence if I see signals in the waterfall I can quickly see if I have worked/need them.
>
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Re: Idea for the P3

Allan Zadiraka
The WIN4K3 rig control software provides control of the P3 as well as the
K3.  With a VGA capture card feeding the VGA image to the computer over a
USB 3.0 connection, the P3 is replicated in a resizeable window on the
computer. It adds the ability to point & click on the screen or use the
mouse roll wheel to tune the K3 frequency..  With it, I almost never look
at or touch the P3 itself and am thinking about moving the P3 off the
operating desk.

zeke,  ab8ou


On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Paul,
>
> The P3 does not have a digital data stream output, and I am certain what
> it has is not compatible with any input to the computer.
> You can add the SVGA option to obtain a greatly enlarged display, keyboard
> support for entering data mode text or CW, and display of the K3 decoded
> PSK31/63, RTTY or CW.
>
> If you want to continue to use the SoftRock in conjunction with the P3,
> there is an IF OUT from the P3 which will allow you to do exactly that.
>
> BTW, some other hams used my K3 with P3 for the CW station at Field Day.
> At several points they commented "It is like shooting fish in a barrel!".
> They ended up looking at the P3 rather than at the K3 display most of the
> time although they tuned with the K3 VFO knob and did not try to point with
> the marker and tap the knob to QSY.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 7/3/2017 2:53 PM, Paul Wilton wrote:
>
>> Having been playing around with the P3 for the first time, can I suggest
>> a future feature please. Whilst the built in display is very nice, it would
>> be helpful if it were possible to get the spectrum data in a PC in realtime
>> (ish). There are a couple of applications for this but the main one is to
>> integrate the waterfall/spectrum with DX spots. At the moment I run N1MM+
>> for VHF contesting. My station is optimised for Search and Pounce (S&P). I
>> have an IF tap into my K2 and use a soft rock plus USB sound card to get a
>> waterfall band map using Waterfall Bandmap(WBM).  WBM integrates with N1MM+
>> and shows cluster spots/stations I have worked) along the frequency axis.
>> Hence if I see signals in the waterfall I can quickly see if I have
>> worked/need them.
>>
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Re: Idea for the P3

Allan Zadiraka
Jim

I am using a StarTech.com USB3HDCAP USB 3.0 Video Capture Device to get the
P3 VGA signal into the WIN4K3 panadapter screen.  I purchased the unit off
Amazon.  Had to run the Star Tech video capture software to  set the
connection up and then just ran WIN4K3 and set it up per instructions.
Actually was simpler to get working than the virtual COM ports.

The developer of WIN4K3, va2fsq, advised that it had to be a USB 3.0 port
to work.

zeke  ab8ou


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On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 8:45 PM, Jim Miller <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Allan
>
> What VGA USB capture card and software did you use? My attempt at this
> hasn't worked out.
>
> Thanks!
>
> jim ab3cv
>
> On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 8:37 PM, Allan Zadiraka <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> The WIN4K3 rig control software provides control of the P3 as well as the
>> K3.  With a VGA capture card feeding the VGA image to the computer over a
>> USB 3.0 connection, the P3 is replicated in a resizeable window on the
>> computer. It adds the ability to point & click on the screen or use the
>> mouse roll wheel to tune the K3 frequency..  With it, I almost never look
>> at or touch the P3 itself and am thinking about moving the P3 off the
>> operating desk.
>>
>> zeke,  ab8ou
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Paul,
>> >
>> > The P3 does not have a digital data stream output, and I am certain what
>> > it has is not compatible with any input to the computer.
>> > You can add the SVGA option to obtain a greatly enlarged display,
>> keyboard
>> > support for entering data mode text or CW, and display of the K3 decoded
>> > PSK31/63, RTTY or CW.
>> >
>> > If you want to continue to use the SoftRock in conjunction with the P3,
>> > there is an IF OUT from the P3 which will allow you to do exactly that.
>> >
>> > BTW, some other hams used my K3 with P3 for the CW station at Field Day.
>> > At several points they commented "It is like shooting fish in a
>> barrel!".
>> > They ended up looking at the P3 rather than at the K3 display most of
>> the
>> > time although they tuned with the K3 VFO knob and did not try to point
>> with
>> > the marker and tap the knob to QSY.
>> >
>> > 73,
>> > Don W3FPR
>> >
>> > On 7/3/2017 2:53 PM, Paul Wilton wrote:
>> >
>> >> Having been playing around with the P3 for the first time, can I
>> suggest
>> >> a future feature please. Whilst the built in display is very nice, it
>> would
>> >> be helpful if it were possible to get the spectrum data in a PC in
>> realtime
>> >> (ish). There are a couple of applications for this but the main one is
>> to
>> >> integrate the waterfall/spectrum with DX spots. At the moment I run
>> N1MM+
>> >> for VHF contesting. My station is optimised for Search and Pounce
>> (S&P). I
>> >> have an IF tap into my K2 and use a soft rock plus USB sound card to
>> get a
>> >> waterfall band map using Waterfall Bandmap(WBM).  WBM integrates with
>> N1MM+
>> >> and shows cluster spots/stations I have worked) along the frequency
>> axis.
>> >> Hence if I see signals in the waterfall I can quickly see if I have
>> >> worked/need them.
>> >>
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Re: Idea for the P3

tomb18
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Could I have more information about this please? Currently win4k3suite can support a p3 with svga and a video capture board. The problem is vga capture boards are rare these days and the ones that are available now cost over 600.Having such a device may be an option for win4k3suite if feasible. Thanks for any info. 73 Tom va2fsq.com 


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-------- Original message --------From: Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> Date: 2017-07-03  4:53 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: [hidden email] Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Idea for the P3
Wayne has posted about using a device which sends VGA over IP to
a remote location to display the P3 VGA display remotely. That
is off-the-shelf hardware he got from, I think, Amazon.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 7/3/17 at 1:38 PM, [hidden email] (Fred Jensen) wrote:

>It would be a nice featurefor remote operators. I operate W7RN
>remotely from my home.  When my K3 is in TERM mode controlling
>the remote radio, my P3 sees the last frequency I was on
>locally +/- 10 KHz [I usually leave it on 20 KHz span], usually
>on 80 meters from the previous night.  The K3 receiver, up to
>the ADC I think, is still operating in TERM mode, and I can see
>signals in that range.  The P3 is what I look at 99.5% of the
>time and I miss it when running remote.  The only option I
>would have now is about 60 km of RG-58 to bring the 1st IF down
>to my P3. [:-))
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Re: Idea for the P3

Cady, Fred-2
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Hi Zeke,

What VGA capture card are you using?

Thanks,

Fred KE7X


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Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 6:37 PM
To: [hidden email]
Cc: Elecraft Discussion List; Paul Wilton
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Idea for the P3

The WIN4K3 rig control software provides control of the P3 as well as the
K3.  With a VGA capture card feeding the VGA image to the computer over a
USB 3.0 connection, the P3 is replicated in a resizeable window on the
computer. It adds the ability to point & click on the screen or use the
mouse roll wheel to tune the K3 frequency..  With it, I almost never look
at or touch the P3 itself and am thinking about moving the P3 off the
operating desk.

zeke,  ab8ou


On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Paul,
>
> The P3 does not have a digital data stream output, and I am certain what
> it has is not compatible with any input to the computer.
> You can add the SVGA option to obtain a greatly enlarged display, keyboard
> support for entering data mode text or CW, and display of the K3 decoded
> PSK31/63, RTTY or CW.
>
> If you want to continue to use the SoftRock in conjunction with the P3,
> there is an IF OUT from the P3 which will allow you to do exactly that.
>
> BTW, some other hams used my K3 with P3 for the CW station at Field Day.
> At several points they commented "It is like shooting fish in a barrel!".
> They ended up looking at the P3 rather than at the K3 display most of the
> time although they tuned with the K3 VFO knob and did not try to point with
> the marker and tap the knob to QSY.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 7/3/2017 2:53 PM, Paul Wilton wrote:
>
>> Having been playing around with the P3 for the first time, can I suggest
>> a future feature please. Whilst the built in display is very nice, it would
>> be helpful if it were possible to get the spectrum data in a PC in realtime
>> (ish). There are a couple of applications for this but the main one is to
>> integrate the waterfall/spectrum with DX spots. At the moment I run N1MM+
>> for VHF contesting. My station is optimised for Search and Pounce (S&P). I
>> have an IF tap into my K2 and use a soft rock plus USB sound card to get a
>> waterfall band map using Waterfall Bandmap(WBM).  WBM integrates with N1MM+
>> and shows cluster spots/stations I have worked) along the frequency axis.
>> Hence if I see signals in the waterfall I can quickly see if I have
>> worked/need them.
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
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Re: Idea for the P3

tomb18
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They are rare these days.  Epiphan makes one at $700.  Avermedia used to
make one at $150 but they dropped it.  I wish Elecraft would update the svga
to hdmi.
73
va2fsq.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Cady, Fred
Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 10:49 PM
To: Allan Zadiraka
Cc: Elecraft Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Idea for the P3

Hi Zeke,

What VGA capture card are you using?

Thanks,

Fred KE7X


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Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 6:37 PM
To: [hidden email]
Cc: Elecraft Discussion List; Paul Wilton
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Idea for the P3

The WIN4K3 rig control software provides control of the P3 as well as the
K3.  With a VGA capture card feeding the VGA image to the computer over a
USB 3.0 connection, the P3 is replicated in a resizeable window on the
computer. It adds the ability to point & click on the screen or use the
mouse roll wheel to tune the K3 frequency..  With it, I almost never look
at or touch the P3 itself and am thinking about moving the P3 off the
operating desk.

zeke,  ab8ou


On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Paul,
>
> The P3 does not have a digital data stream output, and I am certain what
> it has is not compatible with any input to the computer.
> You can add the SVGA option to obtain a greatly enlarged display, keyboard
> support for entering data mode text or CW, and display of the K3 decoded
> PSK31/63, RTTY or CW.
>
> If you want to continue to use the SoftRock in conjunction with the P3,
> there is an IF OUT from the P3 which will allow you to do exactly that.
>
> BTW, some other hams used my K3 with P3 for the CW station at Field Day.
> At several points they commented "It is like shooting fish in a barrel!".
> They ended up looking at the P3 rather than at the K3 display most of the
> time although they tuned with the K3 VFO knob and did not try to point
> with
> the marker and tap the knob to QSY.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 7/3/2017 2:53 PM, Paul Wilton wrote:
>
>> Having been playing around with the P3 for the first time, can I suggest
>> a future feature please. Whilst the built in display is very nice, it
>> would
>> be helpful if it were possible to get the spectrum data in a PC in
>> realtime
>> (ish). There are a couple of applications for this but the main one is to
>> integrate the waterfall/spectrum with DX spots. At the moment I run N1MM+
>> for VHF contesting. My station is optimised for Search and Pounce (S&P).
>> I
>> have an IF tap into my K2 and use a soft rock plus USB sound card to get
>> a
>> waterfall band map using Waterfall Bandmap(WBM).  WBM integrates with
>> N1MM+
>> and shows cluster spots/stations I have worked) along the frequency axis.
>> Hence if I see signals in the waterfall I can quickly see if I have
>> worked/need them.
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
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Re: Idea for the P3

Paul Wilton
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Thats interesting - does it superimpose a bandmap/cluster spots onto the image?


Paul
M1CNK


> On 4 Jul 2017, at 01:37, Allan Zadiraka <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> The WIN4K3 rig control software provides control of the P3 as well as the K3.  With a VGA capture card feeding the VGA image to the computer over a USB 3.0 connection, the P3 is replicated in a resizeable window on the computer. It adds the ability to point & click on the screen or use the mouse roll wheel to tune the K3 frequency..  With it, I almost never look at or touch the P3 itself and am thinking about moving the P3 off the operating desk.
>
> zeke,  ab8ou
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
> Paul,
>
> The P3 does not have a digital data stream output, and I am certain what it has is not compatible with any input to the computer.
> You can add the SVGA option to obtain a greatly enlarged display, keyboard support for entering data mode text or CW, and display of the K3 decoded PSK31/63, RTTY or CW.
>
> If you want to continue to use the SoftRock in conjunction with the P3, there is an IF OUT from the P3 which will allow you to do exactly that.
>
> BTW, some other hams used my K3 with P3 for the CW station at Field Day.  At several points they commented "It is like shooting fish in a barrel!".  They ended up looking at the P3 rather than at the K3 display most of the time although they tuned with the K3 VFO knob and did not try to point with the marker and tap the knob to QSY.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 7/3/2017 2:53 PM, Paul Wilton wrote:
> Having been playing around with the P3 for the first time, can I suggest a future feature please. Whilst the built in display is very nice, it would be helpful if it were possible to get the spectrum data in a PC in realtime (ish). There are a couple of applications for this but the main one is to integrate the waterfall/spectrum with DX spots. At the moment I run N1MM+ for VHF contesting. My station is optimised for Search and Pounce (S&P). I have an IF tap into my K2 and use a soft rock plus USB sound card to get a waterfall band map using Waterfall Bandmap(WBM).  WBM integrates with N1MM+ and shows cluster spots/stations I have worked) along the frequency axis. Hence if I see signals in the waterfall I can quickly see if I have worked/need them.
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Re: Idea for the P3

Paul Wilton
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Don
Thanks for the answer.  Yes, fully aware that it doesn’t already do this.  However, I note that the SVGA option has a spare type B USB port on it for future use.  My thought was that you could use some additional hardware to send a stream of data down it. It wouldn’t take much hardware - it could even look like a soundcard in the same way as a FunCube dongle.

The advantage is that once in a computer, the data stream can be manipulated in far more ways.  It does change operating, at the UK VHF NFD I set up the P3 with a monitor and it revolutionised operation for some the my local club members.


Paul
M1CNK



> On 4 Jul 2017, at 00:17, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Paul,
>
> The P3 does not have a digital data stream output, and I am certain what it has is not compatible with any input to the computer.
> You can add the SVGA option to obtain a greatly enlarged display, keyboard support for entering data mode text or CW, and display of the K3 decoded PSK31/63, RTTY or CW.
>
> If you want to continue to use the SoftRock in conjunction with the P3, there is an IF OUT from the P3 which will allow you to do exactly that.
>
> BTW, some other hams used my K3 with P3 for the CW station at Field Day.  At several points they commented "It is like shooting fish in a barrel!".  They ended up looking at the P3 rather than at the K3 display most of the time although they tuned with the K3 VFO knob and did not try to point with the marker and tap the knob to QSY.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 7/3/2017 2:53 PM, Paul Wilton wrote:
>> Having been playing around with the P3 for the first time, can I suggest a future feature please. Whilst the built in display is very nice, it would be helpful if it were possible to get the spectrum data in a PC in realtime (ish). There are a couple of applications for this but the main one is to integrate the waterfall/spectrum with DX spots. At the moment I run N1MM+ for VHF contesting. My station is optimised for Search and Pounce (S&P). I have an IF tap into my K2 and use a soft rock plus USB sound card to get a waterfall band map using Waterfall Bandmap(WBM).  WBM integrates with N1MM+ and shows cluster spots/stations I have worked) along the frequency axis. Hence if I see signals in the waterfall I can quickly see if I have worked/need them.

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Re: Idea for the P3

Bill Frantz
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This is the way I use my K3. I use the P3-VGA to see the band
and tune with the knob (or K-Pod) following the display on the
VGA. I have not found the marker and knob on the P3 to be fun to use.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 7/3/17 at 4:17 PM, [hidden email] (Don Wilhelm) wrote:

>BTW, some other hams used my K3 with P3 for the CW station at
>Field Day.  At several points they commented "It is like
>shooting fish in a barrel!".  They ended up looking at the P3
>rather than at the K3 display most of the time although they
>tuned with the K3 VFO knob and did not try to point with the
>marker and tap the knob to QSY.
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Re: Idea for the P3

Allan Zadiraka
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Tom
Actually, the Startech  USB3HDCAP USB 3 0 HD Video Capture Device is small
standalone box and not a card as I referred to it.   Amazon shows it still
available for $175-250.  As I recall, I ran the Startech software and
obtained the P3 images in their window.  Shut down the Startech software
and ran Win4K3 and set the panadapter display up following the Win4K3
instructions.

It does not superimpose a bandmap/cluster spots onto the image.  The P3
vertical format would not lend itself to superimposing spots on the image.
 "Waterfall Bandmap" software is on my SOMEDAY/MAYBE list.

zeke  ab8ou



On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 10:43 PM, tomb18 <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Could I have more information about this please? Currently win4k3suite can
> support a p3 with svga and a video capture board. The problem is vga
> capture boards are rare these days and the ones that are available now cost
> over 600.Having such a device may be an option for win4k3suite if
> feasible. Thanks for any info. 73 Tom va2fsq.com
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> -------- Original message --------From: Bill Frantz <[hidden email]>
> Date: 2017-07-03  4:53 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: [hidden email] Cc:
> [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Idea for the P3
> Wayne has posted about using a device which sends VGA over IP to
> a remote location to display the P3 VGA display remotely. That
> is off-the-shelf hardware he got from, I think, Amazon.
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
> On 7/3/17 at 1:38 PM, [hidden email] (Fred Jensen) wrote:
>
> >It would be a nice featurefor remote operators. I operate W7RN
> >remotely from my home.  When my K3 is in TERM mode controlling
> >the remote radio, my P3 sees the last frequency I was on
> >locally +/- 10 KHz [I usually leave it on 20 KHz span], usually
> >on 80 meters from the previous night.  The K3 receiver, up to
> >the ADC I think, is still operating in TERM mode, and I can see
> >signals in that range.  The P3 is what I look at 99.5% of the
> >time and I miss it when running remote.  The only option I
> >would have now is about 60 km of RG-58 to bring the 1st IF down
> >to my P3. [:-))
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