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Important K3 News - alternative to internet connection?

Dave, G4AON
Geoff

I think it would be useful to be able to store the "updates" locally,
just in case of an unexpected problem. That would allow you to return
the K3 to it's previous firmware version for comparison purposes if
nothing else... It would also allow those without internet access near
their K3 to take the update to the rig on a laptop.

Seem to make sense to me.

73 Dave, G4AON
K3 ordered 30th April, currently with UPS at East Midlands Airport,
expected to arrive Monday (19th Nov)
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Re: Important K3 News - alternative to internet connection?

dj7mgq
 > I think it would be useful to be able to store the "updates" locally,

You can.

vy 73 de toby
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Re: Important K3 News - alternative to internet connection?

M0XDF
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I agree, but I wonder if Elecraft are concerned about plagiarism?

On 18/11/07 07:28, "Dave G4AON" <[hidden email]> sent:
> I think it would be useful to be able to store the "updates" locally,
>[snip] It would also allow those without internet access near
> their K3 to take the update to the rig on a laptop.
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Re: Important K3 News - alternative to internet connection?

Julian, G4ILO
On Nov 18, 2007 1:05 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I agree, but I wonder if Elecraft are concerned about plagiarism?

Plagiarism? How? The firmware updates are no use to anyone who doesn't
have a K3 anyway.

The help with the update utility explains how you can update the
firmware from files that have been manually downloaded to a USB memory
stick or similar. It's no problem at all, as long as you can connect
the K3 to a PC that runs Windows.
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Re: Important K3 News - alternative to internet connection?

Bob Cunnings NW8L
In fact, you can access the FTP site directly from within the K3
Utility Help screen if you wish - just click on the link
(ftp://ftp.elecraft.com/K3/firmware) given in the "Manual File
Transfer" help topic. An instance of Windows file explorer should
appear (framed within the help screen) displaying the files, and then
you may highlight them all, right click and use "Copy to Folder" to
put them where you wish. No special FTP client is required in this
case, which should work on Windows XP and Vista, but of course the PC
must be connected to the internet.

Bob NW8L

On Nov 18, 2007 6:44 AM, Julian G4ILO <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Nov 18, 2007 1:05 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > I agree, but I wonder if Elecraft are concerned about plagiarism?
>
> Plagiarism? How? The firmware updates are no use to anyone who doesn't
> have a K3 anyway.
>
> The help with the update utility explains how you can update the
> firmware from files that have been manually downloaded to a USB memory
> stick or similar. It's no problem at all, as long as you can connect
> the K3 to a PC that runs Windows.
> --
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[K2] Plantronics Gamecon 1 Headset

KBG Luxford
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I looked at G4ILO, Julian's, site and found there an interesting
discussion of the Plantronics Gamecon 1 for use with the K2.  Now this
headset is not available down here in Oz as far as I can determine.  I
am wondering if Julian or anybody else is able to comment upon the
Plantronics .Audio 250 which is available down here.

The Plantronics site contains almost no specification details, and in a
response to a query from me, have replied as follows, "The .Audio 350 is
a modern equivalent to the old GameCom 1; the two headsets have
comparable specifications however neither of these products are radio
headsets. We do not rate our analog PC headsets as compatible with radio
consoles. We do not release technical specifications of our retail
headsets."

Just how comparable is "comparable?"

73
Kevin
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Re: [K2] Plantronics Gamecon 1 Headset

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hi Kevin,

On 19 Nov 2007 at 17:06, KBG Luxford wrote:

> I looked at G4ILO, Julian's, site and found there an interesting
> discussion of the Plantronics Gamecon 1 for use with the K2.  Now this
> headset is not available down here in Oz as far as I can determine.  I
> am wondering if Julian or anybody else is able to comment upon the
> Plantronics .Audio 250 which is available down here.

I did the same and found the described headset on ebay somewhere in
Shanghai at a reasonable price and quick delivery.

I built an adapater to the 8 pole Mic connector and tried it with my K2, but
the modulation reports I got were not encouraging to use it longer. There is
also still a problem with the vox, which is not as responsive as it should be. I
helped myself with a PTT in form of a morse key, which does the job better
than the VOX.

Another problem was sometimes HF in the modulation, which might be a
question of correct wiring the adapter to the K2.

I went back the the Heil Proset with HC5 element, which gave me the best
results here, or the Kenwood MC2s (if I remember the label right)

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Re: [K2] Plantronics Gamecon 1 Headset

Joe-aa4nn
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Their statment should steer you clear away from
considering the Plantronics Gamecon headset.
de Joe, aa4nn

SNIP
> "The .Audio 350 is a modern equivalent to the old GameCom 1; the two
> headsets have comparable specifications however neither of these products
> are radio headsets. We do not rate our analog PC headsets as compatible
> with radio consoles. We do not release technical specifications of our
> retail headsets."

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Re: [K2] Plantronics Gamecon 1 Headset

Bill Steffey NY9H
that statement ( from Plantronics) is so marketing,,,,

The last thing Plantronics wants is to have dispatch centers who pay
160-300 per headset DISCOVER how to integrate mass marketed PC
marketed ( read low pricepoint) microphones into their systems. Yes
they may be built to endure a tougher environment. .

I've very successfully used .99 radio shack electret elements with
both my k2 and my 7800...haven't hooked it to the K3
yet,,,,frequently using elements from old telephone sets,,

Also Altec branded ( this week owned by Plantronics )computer stuff
CAN works great...( I have a headset for my K2.)
http://www.alteclansing.com/product_details.asp?pID=AHS515
just needs to be wired properly providing the bias to the electret...
there are articles all over the net,.,.

I like especially the comment "We do not release technical
specifications of our retail headsets."....the spec would look too good,,,,

now back to learning the K3,,,,

bill

  Joe-aa4nn wrote:

>Their statment should steer you clear away from
>considering the Plantronics Gamecon headset.
>de Joe, aa4nn
>
>SNIP
>>"The .Audio 350 is a modern equivalent to the old GameCom 1; the
>>two headsets have comparable specifications however neither of
>>these products are radio headsets. We do not rate our analog PC
>>headsets as compatible with radio consoles. We do not release
>>technical specifications of our retail headsets."
>
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Re: [K2] Plantronics Gamecon 1 Headset

Don Wilhelm-4
Just my opinion here:
For those who have the 'where-with-all' to build a proper adapter for
these PC microphones and headsets, many of them will work just fine -
some even great.  Besides, they are inexpensive things to experiment
with just to see if you can make it work for your use.
But if this is your first microphone purchase, I would suggest that you
get one that is certain to work and work well, and for Elecraft gear,
that to me means one of the Elecraft microphones which are known to plug
in an work fine.

73,
Don W3FPR

Bill NY9H wrote:

> The last thing Plantronics wants is to have dispatch centers who pay
> 160-300 per headset DISCOVER how to integrate mass marketed PC
> marketed ( read low pricepoint) microphones into their systems. Yes
> they may be built to endure a tougher environment. .
>
> I've very successfully used .99 radio shack electret elements with
> both my k2 and my 7800...haven't hooked it to the K3 yet,,,,frequently
> using elements from old telephone sets,,
>
> Also Altec branded ( this week owned by Plantronics )computer stuff
> CAN works great...( I have a headset for my K2.)
> http://www.alteclansing.com/product_details.asp?pID=AHS515
> just needs to be wired properly providing the bias to the electret...
> there are articles all over the net,.,.
>
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Re: [K2] Plantronics Gamecon 1 Headset

Mike Scott-7
In reply to this post by KBG Luxford
I will be using the On-Air Headset from US Interface with my K-3 when the
K-3 arrives http://www.usinterface.com/Headset.html

This is the same place that the Navigator digital-mode interface comes from
which I believe Simon just purchased for his K-3.

The headset-mic is a featherweight dual earpiece headset plus boom noise
canceling microphone for $39.95 and comes complete with a Kenwood configured
8-pin connector and breakout connector for PTT.

US Interface does publish the specs (see site) and they look pretty good to
me.

Glen (W3GWW) promptly filled my order and was nice about it. He uses his on
his K-2.

Mike Scott - AE6WA

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Re: [K2] Plantronics Gamecon 1 Headset

KBG Luxford
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To all those kind folks who contributed on this topic:

I have decided not to proceed with a Plantronics product on account of
their unwillingness to supply me with specifications.  I do not quibble
with their right to market their products in any way they see fit.
However, I hope that they do not quibble with my decision taken as a
consequence.

Incidentally, I do have an Elecraft / Heil MH2 hand-held mic, and I get
excellent reports when using it.

I am looking at the product on http://www.usinterface.com/default.asp,
and will probably buy it, but have decided that in the meantime I will
put Heil HC4 and HC5 inserts into a venerable Shure 444 microphone body
together with a selector switch and transistor amplifier - probably
using the circuit on the Elecraft site.  That, and the QRP charger from
A & A Engineering rather uses up this month's allowance!

Best 73 to all and especially to the growing number of happy K3
assemblers.  Please make sure you all debug it thoroughly so that I can
place my order.  Years in the IT industry have made me wary of being an
early adopter of anything!

Kevin
VK3DAP / ZL2DAP
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RE: [K2] Plantronics Gamecon 1 Headset

Joe Subich, W4TV

> I am looking at the product on http://www.usinterface.com/default.asp,
> and will probably buy it,

Before you do, take a look at the Koss SB40, SB45, and SB49 headsets
(www.koss.com).  They are full over the ear headsets with electret mics
sold primarily for on-line gaming.  However, at $40.00 direct they are
a very interesting possibility for radio work.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV
 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of KBG Luxford
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 12:06 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Cc: elecraft
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Plantronics Gamecon 1 Headset
>
>
> To all those kind folks who contributed on this topic:
>
> I have decided not to proceed with a Plantronics product on
> account of
> their unwillingness to supply me with specifications.  I do
> not quibble
> with their right to market their products in any way they see fit.
> However, I hope that they do not quibble with my decision taken as a
> consequence.
>
> Incidentally, I do have an Elecraft / Heil MH2 hand-held mic,
> and I get
> excellent reports when using it.
>
> I am looking at the product on
> http://www.usinterface.com/default.asp,
> and will probably buy it, but have decided that in the
> meantime I will
> put Heil HC4 and HC5 inserts into a venerable Shure 444
> microphone body
> together with a selector switch and transistor amplifier - probably
> using the circuit on the Elecraft site.  That, and the QRP
> charger from
> A & A Engineering rather uses up this month's allowance!
>
> Best 73 to all and especially to the growing number of happy K3
> assemblers.  Please make sure you all debug it thoroughly so
> that I can
> place my order.  Years in the IT industry have made me wary
> of being an
> early adopter of anything!
>
> Kevin
> VK3DAP / ZL2DAP
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