Instant Gratification
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You know, with all the K3 hullabaloo...I find some of the thought processes is some emails to be quite disturbing. The rig has not even been delivered yet and people are looking at the resale value after a year. Or, people are comparing the K3 to the Omni VII or FT2000.. Or, trying to figure out how a filter they already own will fit in the K3. This kind of thinking has been going on for quite a while and I am amazed how these types of thoughts roll around people's heads...and end up as email topics on the "E" reflector. The k3 has yet to be delivered....and yet...there are people thinking so far ahead of themselves they seem not to appreciate the moment. Amazing! How we want to know all the answers right now...if this then what happens...or will it run on 220? (The last was a joke...don't take is any other way!) The speculation about the K3 and how it stacks up to the others has been endless...and today...we know very little about the K3's numbers, figures, data, or specs. So, with that said....let us all wait....wait...for the guys in Aptos to get the crucial information to us before we speculate everything into the ground. Yes, it is exciting and some questions are salient....but let's not kill the joy of the moment by debating or discussing K3 topics that are ... well ... just plain pointless. We live in a world of instant gratification....let's just wait. Lee - K0WA In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense devine? _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Well, Lee, I see a different side to it.
I think we're all quite aware that the K3 isn't here yet and is an unproven item. Still we have indication of how it will likely end up. All the chat / speculation / conjecture has spurred a lot of solid technical discussion which has been great on the list. We've learned about receiver design and about good and bad points of other rigs. Good stuff. And some of us fully consider all the aspects of something before buying. When buying a new car, we'll look at safety, dimensions, cargo capacity, towing capacity, EPA estimates and yes, even resale value, to gain a better overall picture of what we're spending our money on. We'll even consider those things for a model that hasn't quite made it to dealer's showrooms yet. Failure to do means you'll be set up for a surprise when you buy the item and find it won't tow your trailer or you can't fit your guitar into the trunk or you can't get in and out of the back seat. The more you learn, the better informed you are and the more likely you are to have a realistic expectation of what the item will and won't do. As to these discussions being pointless, there are a lot of different people chiming in on a lot of different topics. There is excitement in the air and many people are tuned in. I'd say the discussions are far from pointless. Some of us (not me) were planning to buy a rig but now are going to wait to see what the K3 offers. Were it not for the discussions, they may have gone ahead and ordered. I do agree that we have to be careful when we say what "will" and "won't" be but again, I don't think any of are really thinking there are any guarantees at this point. So I say let the discussions / radio theory / speculation continue. It is great fun and really stretches a person's brain, maybe even to the breaking point? - Keith N1AS - - K2 5411.ssb.100 - -----Original Message----- From: Lee Buller Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 2:15 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] Instant Gratification You know, with all the K3 hullabaloo...I find some of the thought processes is some emails to be quite disturbing. The rig has not even been delivered yet and people are looking at the resale value after a year. Or, people are comparing the K3 to the Omni VII or FT2000.. Or, trying to figure out how a filter they already own will fit in the K3. This kind of thinking has been going on for quite a while and I am amazed how these types of thoughts roll around people's heads...and end up as email topics on the "E" reflector. The k3 has yet to be delivered....and yet...there are people thinking so far ahead of themselves they seem not to appreciate the moment. Amazing! How we want to know all the answers right now...if this then what happens...or will it run on 220? (The last was a joke...don't take is any other way!) The speculation about the K3 and how it stacks up to the others has been endless...and today...we know very little about the K3's numbers, figures, data, or specs. So, with that said....let us all wait....wait...for the guys in Aptos to get the crucial information to us before we speculate everything into the ground. Yes, it is exciting and some questions are salient....but let's not kill the joy of the moment by debating or discussing K3 topics that are ... well ... just plain pointless. We live in a world of instant gratification....let's just wait. Lee - K0WA In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense devine? _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Keith,
I agree that some of the discussion has been good ... in fact great! Remember, I I wrote.... "Yes, it is exciting and some questions are salient....but let's not kill the joy of the moment by debating or discussing K3 topics that are ... well ... just plain pointless." Again, I said salient.... But come on....there has to be some "point" that is good for the discussion, not some pointless blather and speculation. Lee - K0WA "Gee - I wonder how the K3 will perform against a SB-101?" or "Does the K3 have a filling hole for more QSOs?" In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense devine? _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Excitement produces stream-of-consciousness chatter, just like a good
"brainstorming" session. At such times there are no "good" or "bad" thoughts or ideas, just ideas that trigger other thoughts and comments. It's fun to see such excitement here! Let the good times roll... Ron AC7AC _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Tue, 15 May 2007, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
> Excitement produces stream-of-consciousness chatter, just like a good > "brainstorming" session. At such times there are no "good" or "bad" thoughts > or ideas, just ideas that trigger other thoughts and comments. I think what we're seeing is really amazing...in an era where companies give less and less support, where branding experts and bean counters dictate product design and production facilities go cheap, we see the exact opposite with Elecraft. If you think about it, a lot of things we've asked for are in the K3, we have the ability to exchange ideas with the principals, and get superior products. In a age of fast food, throw away shoes, and all sorts of other dimuation of standards, we're looking at the exception to the current rules. I think the Elecraft folks not only deserve congratulation and thanks, but a commendation for operating their business at such high standards. 73,Thom-k3hrn www.zerobeat.net Home of QRP Web Ring, Drakelist home page,Drake Web Ring, QRP IRC channel, Drake IRC Channel, Elecraft Owners Database www.tlchost.net/hosting/ *** Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Thom LaCosta wrote:
> I think the Elecraft folks not only deserve congratulation and thanks, > but a commendation for operating their business at such high standards. > I totally agree with all you have said, now if they would just start a separate list for all things K3, this feeding frenzy is never going to end, well at least not for the next 2 years. -- GB & 73's KA5OAI Sam Morgan _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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But in two years there might be something new!
-- W2CVZ, Michael _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Michael B wrote:
> But in two years there might be something new! > Elecraft is a growing company But they have outgrown their earlier "one list to serve them all" model. Elecraft does great radios, but IMO the current "all K3 all the time" list sucks! -- GB & 73's KA5OAI Sam Morgan _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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