Interesting Stuff At Dayton
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Hi All,
Something that I saw at Dayton may be of interest to Elecraft owners--particularly K3, and possibly K2 folks. Jay Bromley and I visited with Larry Phipps at his booth for a while. Larry has several very innovative items that he sells, including probably the most unique wattmeter/SWR meter you can find anywhere (the LP-100A). What caught our attention was Larry's new panadapter for the K3. He's contemplating doing one for the K2 as well. Anyway, this new gadget (I hope I don't offend Larry by calling it a gadget) is very impressive. You should really go to his website to get the full details, but believe me, it is really a slick piece of engineering. I'm not fully familiar with the Icom bandscope on it's higher end rigs, but I think this product from Larry will rival or exceed what you find there. Additionally, it really constitutes a 2nd receiver, which opens up all sorts of possibilities. For example, maybe if you get this accessory you really don't get enough more with the Elecraft 2nd RX???? Can't really say that for sure, but it's pretty clear that Larry has something that might give one pause as to whether or not they need something over and above that. Anyway, the demo Larry gave us was most impressive. I suggest you keep one eye on his website for more details. In any event, the panadapter is fairly reasonable, and is available in either kit form or fully assembled. Larry says building it is not very difficult or time consuming. By all means, check all of this out. Dave W7AQK _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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It appears to me that it would be a second receiver only with the aid of a PC, sound card and SDR software. What I would like to see is an external bandscope that does not require a computer. Either it would be completely self contained, or it would use an inexpensive portable LCD TV for its display. Perhaps Elecraft will come up with something like this in the future?
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222 KX3 #110
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If u would like a real bandscope with a completely real time oscilloscope-like trace (as well as a xmas tree), get the SM-220 or SM-230 from Kenwood. Probably no longer made, they mate with the TS-950 and its juniors and really work even when u are turning the tuning knob. Likely Kenwood lovers will not part with theirs, so gud luck on finding one. No computer needed at all. This OLD TECHNOLOGY remains superior to anything I've seen in the new market today. Too bad it must mate with such a medium-performing rcvr. 73 Charles Harpole [hidden email] > Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 01:39:57 -0700 > From: [hidden email] > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Interesting Stuff At Dayton > > > > David Yarnes wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> Something that I saw at Dayton may be of interest to Elecraft >> owners--particularly K3, and possibly K2 folks. Jay Bromley and I visited >> with Larry Phipps at his booth for a while. Larry has several very >> innovative items that he sells, including probably the most unique >> wattmeter/SWR meter you can find anywhere (the LP-100A). What caught our >> attention was Larry's new panadapter for the K3. He's contemplating doing >> one for the K2 as well. Anyway, this new gadget (I hope I don't offend >> Larry by calling it a gadget) is very impressive. You should really go to >> his website to get the full details, but believe me, it is really a slick >> piece of engineering. I'm not fully familiar with the Icom bandscope on >> it's higher end rigs, but I think this product from Larry will rival or >> exceed what you find there. Additionally, it really constitutes a 2nd >> receiver, which opens up all sorts of possibilities. For example, maybe >> if you get this accessory you really don't get enough more with the >> Elecraft 2nd RX???? Can't really say that for sure, but it's pretty clear >> that Larry has something that might give one pause as to whether or not >> they need something over and above that. Anyway, the demo Larry gave us >> was most impressive. I suggest you keep one eye on his website for more >> details. In any event, the panadapter is fairly reasonable, and is >> available in either kit form or fully assembled. Larry says building it >> is not very difficult or time consuming. By all means, check all of this >> out. >> >> > It appears to me that it would be a second receiver only with the aid of a > PC, sound card and SDR software. > > What I would like to see is an external bandscope that does not require a > computer. Either it would be completely self contained, or it would use an > inexpensive portable LCD TV for its display. Perhaps Elecraft will come up > with something like this in the future? > > ----- > Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 > G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com > Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Interesting-Stuff-At-Dayton-tp17308788p17313629.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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What I am in the process of doing is putting together the Softrock receiver,
and lashing it up to a micro ITX formfactor PC. They are very small, and have the ability to use a 12V DC power input. Do a search on car computers, and there is a ton of stuff there. Mate it with an old LCD monitor that is small, or they make 6-8 inch monitors that are expensive. With this arrangement, the scope would be about the Size of any other kind of scope, and could still be used as a shack PC for rig control, logging, etc. Mike AI4NS -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of G4ILO Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 3:40 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Interesting Stuff At Dayton David Yarnes wrote: > > Hi All, > > Something that I saw at Dayton may be of interest to Elecraft > owners--particularly K3, and possibly K2 folks. Jay Bromley and I visited > with Larry Phipps at his booth for a while. Larry has several very > innovative items that he sells, including probably the most unique > wattmeter/SWR meter you can find anywhere (the LP-100A). What caught our > attention was Larry's new panadapter for the K3. He's contemplating doing > one for the K2 as well. Anyway, this new gadget (I hope I don't offend > Larry by calling it a gadget) is very impressive. You should really go to > his website to get the full details, but believe me, it is really a slick > piece of engineering. I'm not fully familiar with the Icom bandscope on > it's higher end rigs, but I think this product from Larry will rival or > exceed what you find there. Additionally, it really constitutes a 2nd > receiver, which opens up all sorts of possibilities. For example, maybe > if you get this accessory you really don't get enough more with the > Elecraft 2nd RX???? Can't really say that for sure, but it's pretty clear > that Larry has something that might give one pause as to whether or not > they need something over and above that. Anyway, the demo Larry gave us > was most impressive. I suggest you keep one eye on his website for more > details. In any event, the panadapter is fairly reasonable, and is > available in either kit form or fully assembled. Larry says building it > is not very difficult or time consuming. By all means, check all of this > out. > > PC, sound card and SDR software. What I would like to see is an external bandscope that does not require a computer. Either it would be completely self contained, or it would use an inexpensive portable LCD TV for its display. Perhaps Elecraft will come up with something like this in the future? ----- Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Interesting-Stuff-At-Dayton-tp17308788p17313629.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.20/1453 - Release Date: 5/18/2008 9:31 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.20/1453 - Release Date: 5/18/2008 9:31 AM _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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>>"Additionally, it really constitutes a 2nd receiver, which l sorts of possibilities.
... well ... it is a 2nd receiver for any signal that is available to it from the K3's IF. That means only signals that make it through the passband filter. Mark AD5SS On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:56 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi All, > > Something that I saw at Dayton may be of interest to Elecraft owners--particularly K3, and possibly K2 folks. Jay Bromley and I visited with Larry Phipps at his booth for a while. Larry has several very innovative items that he sells, including probably the most unique wattmeter/SWR meter you can find anywhere (the LP-100A). What caught our attention was Larry's new panadapter for the K3. He's contemplating doing one for the K2 as well. Anyway, this new gadget (I hope I don't offend Larry by calling it a gadget) is very impressive. You should really go to his website to get the full details, but believe me, it is really a slick piece of engineering. I'm not fully familiar with the Icom bandscope on it's higher end rigs, but I think this product from Larry will rival or exceed what you find there. opens up al Additionally, it really constitutes a 2nd receiver, which l sorts of possibilities. For example, maybe if you get this accessory you really don't get enough more with the Elecraft 2nd RX???? Can't really say that for sure, but it's pretty clear that Larry has something that might give one pause as to whether or not they need something over and above that. Anyway, the demo Larry gave us was most impressive. I suggest you keep one eye on his website for more details. In any event, the panadapter is fairly reasonable, and is available in either kit form or fully assembled. Larry says building it is not very difficult or time consuming. By all means, check all of this out. > > Dave W7AQK > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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A really really good bandscope can be had through using the SDR-IQ from RFSpace connected to the IF output of the K3. It can also record 180kHz worth of the band. Non-computer based methods are also possible, but the computer realisation is so much more versatile. The SDR-IQ software can interface directly to the K3 RS232, so you can point and click when something interesting appears on the bandscope and centre it in the K3 IF. Ah yes, and this is a bandscope that can demodulate too, all modes.
Regarding Dayton and the Elecraft stand It was nice to see everyone there. There was quite a crush around Wayne and Eric whenever I passed by. They looked like they were enjoying themselves too. It was good to see the second rx working and the nice features of the firmware associated with it. I found out several interesting things about their future plans too, including the plans for a keyboard and variable bandwidth filters. Unfortunately I forgot to ask about the prospects for a linear amplifier once the K3 project settles down. Mike |
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After experiencing a few RTTY QSO's over the weekend (yes - I was on RTTY) I
think I'm in need of the 1500 watt beauty as a matter of extreme urgency! I saw it in the flesh in 2005 and have been drooling over the keyboards ever since. Simon Brown, HB9DRV -------------------------------------------------- From: "AD6XY - Mike" <[hidden email]> > Unfortunately I forgot to ask about the prospects for a > linear amplifier once the K3 project settles down. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Charles Harpole wrote:
> If u would like a real bandscope with a completely real time > oscilloscope-like trace (as well as a xmas tree), get the SM-220 or > SM-230 from Kenwood. Probably no longer made, they mate with the > TS-950 and its juniors and really work even when u are turning the > tuning knob. Likely Kenwood lovers will not part with theirs, so gud > luck on finding one. No computer needed at all. This OLD > TECHNOLOGY remains superior to anything I've seen in the new market > today. Too bad it must mate with such a medium-performing rcvr. I have to disagree. I had one, and the bandwidth of the filter used is so wide that it's impossible to distinguish cw signals a few kHz apart. It definitely does not provide the kind of display found, for example, on newer ICOM rigs. I too would like a standalone panadapter (bandscope, whatever) that does not require a computer, but I don't miss the Kenwood unit. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I must agree Vic. That Kenwood SM-2xx is a total joke. There is no way to
use it for finding signals. How one could consider it superior is beyond me. And yes...I had one...worthless. Steve Ellington [hidden email] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vic K2VCO" <[hidden email]> To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] a real bandscope > Charles Harpole wrote: >> If u would like a real bandscope with a completely real time >> oscilloscope-like trace (as well as a xmas tree), get the SM-220 or >> SM-230 from Kenwood. Probably no longer made, they mate with the >> TS-950 and its juniors and really work even when u are turning the >> tuning knob. Likely Kenwood lovers will not part with theirs, so gud >> luck on finding one. No computer needed at all. This OLD >> TECHNOLOGY remains superior to anything I've seen in the new market >> today. Too bad it must mate with such a medium-performing rcvr. > > I have to disagree. I had one, and the bandwidth of the filter used is > so wide that it's impossible to distinguish cw signals a few kHz apart. > It definitely does not provide the kind of display found, for example, > on newer ICOM rigs. > > I too would like a standalone panadapter (bandscope, whatever) that does > not require a computer, but I don't miss the Kenwood unit. > > -- > 73, > Vic, K2VCO > Fresno CA > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1454 - Release Date: 5/19/2008 7:44 AM _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Mon, 19 May 2008 10:37:38 -0500, you wrote:
[snip] >Count me in on a stand alone spectrum display, a small black box with >a VGA connector. I don't want to be tethered to a computer though. I >agree on the SM230/220, had them both and neither on holds a candle to >the Icom bandscope, for receiving > >Dale, K9VUJ Yes, I'd rather have a stand alone also, but not at the price of over 1k buck! The KWD SM-230 was a good scope in it's day but it is 30 year old technology. I have one and still use it for the other things it does. Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" An excerpt from a letter written in 1755 from the Assembly to the Governor of Pennsylvania. Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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Good or not, they were / are very popular. I've sold four
of 'em on eBay ... "spirited" bidding. All went off-shore. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [hidden email] _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Well, I have my LP-PAN on order and can't wait to receive it. I ordered mine assembled so I may have to wait a couple of weeks more for it. I don't mind being tethered to a computer while operating. Truth is I have become so dependent on my logging program (HRD), QRZ.com, DX cluster, etc. that I can't imagine operating without one. I even bring a wireless laptop when operating outside on nice days in the summer.
And if band activity is low, I can spend the lulls browsing my forums and mailing lists. From what I hear, the LP-PAN should be second to no other pan adapter and the ability to use it as a 2nd receiver is very attractive, too. I am quite excited at the prospect of adding a DRM decoder behind it (BC DRM - not the narrow band ham version), although there are ruminations that DRM is a dud in the marketplace and may disappear. Knut - AB2TC
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For me, I liked my old Heathkit (I admit I cannot recall the number,
SB-620 or something like that, but in recent memory (good enough to be reliable) I liked the one in the IC-781, even better than the one in the IC-7800, and would like that sort of display for the spectrum scope, but on a nice flat panel, and I agree, it would be nice to not require a computer (I don;t care if it has it built in, just not another overhead for the shack computer... 73 de Dave, W5SV _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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If you can find one, the Clifton Laboratories Z90 or Z91 is a pretty
nice standalone unit as well. John, N6AX > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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A bandscope like the Flex 5000A's would be ideal. It works great.....as does the radio, even on CW since I have no need for anything close to 50 wpm. Keep in mind that the Flex 5000 uses it's own, high performance sound card, not a typical PC sound card. But there are knobs and buttons on the K3. I still have to have a radio with knobs........a K3 and a K2. I may control these rigs from a PC at times, but still love to tune and listen. It will be interesting to see what evolves for a bandscope with the K3 even though I probably will not be interested in one.
73, Dave N8AG K3 #414 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Absolutely correct Julian. It is the combo of sound card and software that
does it for you, but it does a very credible job of it I might add. I know Elecraft has thoughts of adding a bandscope of some sort, so keep the faith! Your prayers may be answered. I just thought it was kind of interesting how Larry Phipps had incorporated all this together into a very nice little package. The sound card is critical of course, and most laptops don't have one that is sufficient. But I think if you check Larry's website and/or his Yahoo group site you will find some recommendations. Besides, it could be something of a wait for Elecraft to get around to following up on their indicated desire to produce a bandscope. In the meantime, this could be a relatively inexpensive way to accomplish much the same thing. Dave W7AQK ----- Original Message ----- From: "G4ILO" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 1:39 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Interesting Stuff At Dayton > It appears to me that it would be a second receiver only with the aid of a > PC, sound card and SDR software. > > What I would like to see is an external bandscope that does not require a > computer. Either it would be completely self contained, or it would use an > inexpensive portable LCD TV for its display. Perhaps Elecraft will come up > with something like this in the future? > > ----- > Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 > G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com > Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/Interesting-Stuff-At-Dayton-tp17308788p17313629.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Julian, G4ILO
Yes, that's what I'm hoping for, for one thing because I use a Mac
(unless someone wants to come up with the appropiate OSX software?). I rather think that was the direction Wayne was thinking in, but have no insight into this. Perhaps a simple small display in a K3 sized cabinet, you could get a reasonable sized display in that, around the same size as the Icom/ Yaesu etc. with the possibility of plugging in a larger LCD if you so desired. -- Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. -Carl Sagan, astronomer and author (1934-1996) On 19 May 2008, at 09:39, G4ILO wrote: > What I would like to see is an external bandscope that does not > require a > computer. Either it would be completely self contained, or it would > use an > inexpensive portable LCD TV for its display. Perhaps Elecraft will > come up > with something like this in the future? _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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