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Chuck Chandler

Internal speaker problem

Well, this morning I got a chance to put the K3S on the bench. Thanks to
some info from Lyle KK7P and Bob N6TV as to how things were wired up I was
prepared to trace this and that... O'scope was ready...

Turned out to be a loose wire where the internal speaker lead connects to
the speaker lugs. I was all wrapped around the axle on CONFIG settings and
worried that a multi-pin connector might not have been seated properly...
turned out to be a simple problem. The solder lug on the speaker itself
looks to be well soldered, but there is what looks like a crimp in that
conductor just a bit upstream. My bet is there is a break in the wire
inside the insulator there.

For now, some electrical tape is holding the wire tight against the speaker
so it can't move around. I'll email support and request a replacement.
Thanks for the info, fellows!

73 de Chuck, WS1L

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VOX/PTT select macro ?

At one point in the macro command reference there was a statement that
VOX/PTT selection would be available through a direct macro command.
Currently all I am able to make work is the SWT or SWH type command
which is basically of no use since there is no way to know what the
current mode is. Has anyone found a work-around for this?
Thanks
Dave K5MWR

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Bob Wilson, N6TV

Re: VOX/PTT select macro ?

The VX; command (GET only) will return the current state (VOX ON or OFF =
PTT).

*Note:* there is an error in the documentation in the K3 Programmer's
Reference
<http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3S&K3&KX3&KX2%20Pgmrs%20Ref,%20F8.pdf>,
which says:

"RSP format: VXn; where n is 0 (VOX on) or 1 (VOX off)."

(sic)

But the observed responses are quite the opposite, and far more intuitive:

VX0; VOX is OFF
VX1; VOX is ON

The current Programmer's Reference still says "A SET version of the command
is planned." But I suppose those plans are not very high on the priority
list.

73,
Bob, N6TV

On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 8:29 AM, K5MWR via Elecraft <
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> At one point in the macro command reference there was a statement that
> VOX/PTT selection would be available through a direct macro command.
> Currently all I am able to make work is the SWT or SWH type command which
> is basically of no use since there is no way to know what the current mode
> is. Has anyone found a work-around for this?
> Thanks
> Dave K5MWR
>
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Nr4c

Re: Internal speaker problem

In reply to this post by Chuck Chandler

You do have the passing under the span wide brace, don't you? And not clamped to it by the top cover.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill

> On Mar 11, 2017, at 9:35 AM, Chuck Chandler <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Well, this morning I got a chance to put the K3S on the bench. Thanks to
> some info from Lyle KK7P and Bob N6TV as to how things were wired up I was
> prepared to trace this and that... O'scope was ready...
>
> Turned out to be a loose wire where the internal speaker lead connects to
> the speaker lugs. I was all wrapped around the axle on CONFIG settings and
> worried that a multi-pin connector might not have been seated properly...
> turned out to be a simple problem. The solder lug on the speaker itself
> looks to be well soldered, but there is what looks like a crimp in that
> conductor just a bit upstream. My bet is there is a break in the wire
> inside the insulator there.
>
> For now, some electrical tape is holding the wire tight against the speaker
> so it can't move around. I'll email support and request a replacement.
> Thanks for the info, fellows!
>
> 73 de Chuck, WS1L
>
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Bob Wilson, N6TV

Re: VOX/PTT select macro ?

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On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 2:25 PM, David Box <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Issue is that there is no conditional statement in the macro language so
> being able to read the vox state does not help with macros.
>
Yes, some things like unconditionally turning VOX ON or OFF are impossible
to do in simple K3 macros. It seems like getting VX0; and VX1; implemented
as SET commands would be the right way to go, though it may be more
difficult to implement than one would assume.

> My problem is setting up macros to switch to data mode or SSB I would like
> to use Vox for data and PTT for SSB so does not appear possible with
> existing macro structure.
>
You may not need it. The K3 automatically remembers the last state of VOX
or PTT for each mode. So, once you turn VOX ON for CW, VOX OFF for SSB and
DATA, simply switching to these modes with the MDn; command will
automatically turn VOX on or OFF (exception: VOX ON is ignored for some
digital modes like FSK D).

73,
Bob, N6TV
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Bill Frantz

Re: VOX/PTT select macro ?

I find I'm always in the same VOX setting for SSB and Data. I
keep sending coughs out on SSB, or not transmitting in the data
modes. It is the one remaining annoyance in switching between
SSB and Data on my K3.

On 3/11/17 at 3:07 PM, [hidden email] (Bob Wilson, N6TV) wrote:

>You may not need it. The K3 automatically remembers the last state of VOX
>or PTT for each mode. So, once you turn VOX ON for CW, VOX OFF for SSB and
>DATA, simply switching to these modes with the MDn; command will
>automatically turn VOX on or OFF (exception: VOX ON is ignored for some
>digital modes like FSK D).

I just upgraded my firmware from 5.5 to 5.7 and the VOX setting
remains the same when I switch between SSB and Data.

73 Bill AE6JV

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Re: VOX/PTT select macro ?

Bill

Exactly the problem I have. I would be happy with either a SET VXn
command or the VOX state was mode dependent, SET VXn would be my preference.

I am using 5.7 also and VOX is constant not mode dependent.

Bob, if we are missing something in the config or menu settings that
does make VOX mode dependent please let me know. Will not be the first
time I have overlooked an obvious solutions :)

Mean time guess the old Mark 1 eyeball must be employed to verify :)

Dave K5MWR

On 3/11/2017 6:57 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:

> I find I'm always in the same VOX setting for SSB and Data. I keep
> sending coughs out on SSB, or not transmitting in the data modes. It
> is the one remaining annoyance in switching between SSB and Data on my
> K3.
>
> On 3/11/17 at 3:07 PM, [hidden email] (Bob Wilson, N6TV) wrote:
>
>> You may not need it. The K3 automatically remembers the last state
>> of VOX
>> or PTT for each mode. So, once you turn VOX ON for CW, VOX OFF for
>> SSB and
>> DATA, simply switching to these modes with the MDn; command will
>> automatically turn VOX on or OFF (exception: VOX ON is ignored for some
>> digital modes like FSK D).
>
> I just upgraded my firmware from 5.5 to 5.7 and the VOX setting
> remains the same when I switch between SSB and Data.
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
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Bob Wilson, N6TV

Re: VOX/PTT select macro ?

Yes, I see now that VOX mode is remembered on CW, and separately on AFSK,
SSB, AM, FM etc.

The best alternative for now (short of Wayne adding VXn SET commands), is
to avoid VOX mode except on CW. Configure digital software to generate
PTT, and use a foot switch on phone. Most digital programs support either
software PTT (TX; and RX; commands sent before / after every message) or
PTT via the RTS pin on a serial port.

73,
Bob, N6TV

On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 7:45 AM, K5MWR via Elecraft <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Bill
>
> Exactly the problem I have. I would be happy with either a SET VXn
> command or the VOX state was mode dependent, SET VXn would be my preference.
>
> I am using 5.7 also and VOX is constant not mode dependent.
>
> Bob, if we are missing something in the config or menu settings that does
> make VOX mode dependent please let me know. Will not be the first time I
> have overlooked an obvious solutions :)
>
> Mean time guess the old Mark 1 eyeball must be employed to verify :)
>
> Dave K5MWR
>
>
>
> On 3/11/2017 6:57 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
>
>> I find I'm always in the same VOX setting for SSB and Data. I keep
>> sending coughs out on SSB, or not transmitting in the data modes. It is the
>> one remaining annoyance in switching between SSB and Data on my K3.
>>
>

Wes Stewart-2

Re: VOX/PTT select macro ?

That may work, but why?

The radio offers VOX on those modes, why shouldn't it be used. The radio should
conform to the user's needs, not the other way around.

I would like to see implemented, what I thought I was promised to me about a
year ago, VOX gain remembered by mode.

Wes N7WS

On 3/12/2017 10:25 AM, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote:

> Yes, I see now that VOX mode is remembered on CW, and separately on AFSK,
> SSB, AM, FM etc.
>
> The best alternative for now (short of Wayne adding VXn SET commands), is
> to avoid VOX mode except on CW. Configure digital software to generate
> PTT, and use a foot switch on phone. Most digital programs support either
> software PTT (TX; and RX; commands sent before / after every message) or
> PTT via the RTS pin on a serial port.
>
> 73,
> Bob, N6TV
>

Jim Brown-10

Re: VOX/PTT select macro ?

I've never used PTT, either by hand or with a foot switch in my station.
The only time I've used a foot switch was at a multi-op in a SSB
contest. VOX works very well for me for all modes, and I'm too poorly
coordinated to use a foot switch -- it keeps moving away from my foot. :)

73, Jim K9YC

On Mon,3/13/2017 10:05 AM, Wes Stewart wrote:

> That may work, but why?
>
> The radio offers VOX on those modes, why shouldn't it be used. The
> radio should conform to the user's needs, not the other way around.
>
> I would like to see implemented, what I thought I was promised to me
> about a year ago, VOX gain remembered by mode.
>
> Wes N7WS
>
> On 3/12/2017 10:25 AM, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote:
>> Yes, I see now that VOX mode is remembered on CW, and separately on
>> AFSK,
>> SSB, AM, FM etc.
>>
>> The best alternative for now (short of Wayne adding VXn SET
>> commands), is
>> to avoid VOX mode except on CW. Configure digital software to generate
>> PTT, and use a foot switch on phone. Most digital programs support
>> either
>> software PTT (TX; and RX; commands sent before / after every message) or
>> PTT via the RTS pin on a serial port.
>>
>> 73,
>> Bob, N6TV
>>
>
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