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Just Wonderin'...

Andy Cunningham-2
Guy's...

Santa came REAL early this year.. today I took delivery of the ARRL Handbook
2008 and the new version of the
Low Power Communications book by Rich Arnald.. It's gonna be a good one..!

Flickin' through the new Handbook I came across the article again for the
3CX1500D7 RF Linear Amplifer... the
Very same one that was featured on the front cover of last years handbook
with the write up inside also..

It got me thinkin...

Exactly HOW MUCH, would the tube or tubes for one of these beauties cost in
todays money..??  Also the base for the
Tube, HOW MUCH would that be..??

WHERE would one purchase such things.. (don't see any reference in the
article to places that may stock these)..

Indeed if the parts are expensive at todays prices ... is there an "older"
alternative that one could use in such
A "homebrew" project..??

Enquiring Minds Are REALLY INTERESTED in learnin..'


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RE: Just Wonderin'...

Ed Lambert-3
I priced the tube about 1 1/2 years ago. Contact EIMAC sales. I believe
their quote was on the order of $600 - $700.

Ed
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> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Andy - GM0NWI
> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 1:20 PM
> To: 'Elecraft Discussion List'
> Subject: [Elecraft] Just Wonderin'...
>
> Guy's...
>
> Santa came REAL early this year.. today I took delivery of the ARRL
> Handbook
> 2008 and the new version of the
> Low Power Communications book by Rich Arnald.. It's gonna be a good one..!
>
> Flickin' through the new Handbook I came across the article again for the
> 3CX1500D7 RF Linear Amplifer... the
> Very same one that was featured on the front cover of last years handbook
> with the write up inside also..
>
> It got me thinkin...
>
> Exactly HOW MUCH, would the tube or tubes for one of these beauties cost
> in
> todays money..??  Also the base for the
> Tube, HOW MUCH would that be..??
>
> WHERE would one purchase such things.. (don't see any reference in the
> article to places that may stock these)..
>
> Indeed if the parts are expensive at todays prices ... is there an "older"
> alternative that one could use in such
> A "homebrew" project..??
>
> Enquiring Minds Are REALLY INTERESTED in learnin..'
>
>
> 72's 73's
> [hidden email]
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> Andy
> GM0NWI
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RE: Just Wonderin'...

Ed Lambert-3
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Also be sure to carefully check the schematic; the one in the 2007 Handbook
contained many, many errors.

Ed
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:elecraft-
> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Andy - GM0NWI
> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 1:20 PM
> To: 'Elecraft Discussion List'
> Subject: [Elecraft] Just Wonderin'...
>
> Guy's...
>
> Santa came REAL early this year.. today I took delivery of the ARRL
> Handbook
> 2008 and the new version of the
> Low Power Communications book by Rich Arnald.. It's gonna be a good one..!
>
> Flickin' through the new Handbook I came across the article again for the
> 3CX1500D7 RF Linear Amplifer... the
> Very same one that was featured on the front cover of last years handbook
> with the write up inside also..
>
> It got me thinkin...
>
> Exactly HOW MUCH, would the tube or tubes for one of these beauties cost
> in
> todays money..??  Also the base for the
> Tube, HOW MUCH would that be..??
>
> WHERE would one purchase such things.. (don't see any reference in the
> article to places that may stock these)..
>
> Indeed if the parts are expensive at todays prices ... is there an "older"
> alternative that one could use in such
> A "homebrew" project..??
>
> Enquiring Minds Are REALLY INTERESTED in learnin..'
>
>
> 72's 73's
> [hidden email]
>
> Andy
> GM0NWI
>
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Re: Just Wonderin'...

w6jd
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The latest price I see for an 8877/3CX1500, from Alpha, is $950.00. You don't
want to smoke one of those puppies!

Doug, W6JD

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From: "Andy - GM0NWI" <[hidden email]>

> Guy's...
>
> Santa came REAL early this year.. today I took delivery of the ARRL Handbook
> 2008 and the new version of the
> Low Power Communications book by Rich Arnald.. It's gonna be a good one..!
>
> Flickin' through the new Handbook I came across the article again for the
> 3CX1500D7 RF Linear Amplifer... the
> Very same one that was featured on the front cover of last years handbook
> with the write up inside also..
>
> It got me thinkin...
>
> Exactly HOW MUCH, would the tube or tubes for one of these beauties cost in
> todays money..?? Also the base for the
> Tube, HOW MUCH would that be..??
>
> WHERE would one purchase such things.. (don't see any reference in the
> article to places that may stock these)..
>
> Indeed if the parts are expensive at todays prices ... is there an "older"
> alternative that one could use in such
> A "homebrew" project..??
>
> Enquiring Minds Are REALLY INTERESTED in learnin..'
>
>
> 72's 73's [hidden email]
>
> Andy
> GM0NWI
>
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Re: Just Wonderin'...

Robert Dorchuck W6VY
Last I heard the 3CX1500D7 (not an 8877) was only available
to hams directly from Eimac.  This is a different animal than
the 8877.
Bob  W6VY

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> The latest price I see for an 8877/3CX1500, from Alpha, is $950.00.
> You don't
> want to smoke one of those puppies!
>
> Doug, W6JD
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Andy - GM0NWI" <[hidden email]>
>
> > Guy's...
> >
> > Santa came REAL early this year.. today I took delivery of the ARRL
> Handbook
> > 2008 and the new version of the
> > Low Power Communications book by Rich Arnald.. It's gonna be a good
> one..!
> >
> > Flickin' through the new Handbook I came across the article again
> for the
> > 3CX1500D7 RF Linear Amplifer... the
>
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RE: Just Wonderin'...

peter gerba
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Hi;

40-50 ma of grid current should get you about 1500 W out. Don't over drive
the tube and it will last for years and years.

Eimac tests the 8877 key down at 30 MHz , 3kw for hours before it's sold.

It's a very good tube.

pete, kn6bi

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The latest price I see for an 8877/3CX1500, from Alpha, is $950.00. You
don't
want to smoke one of those puppies!

Doug, W6JD

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Andy - GM0NWI" <[hidden email]>

> Guy's...
>
> Santa came REAL early this year.. today I took delivery of the ARRL
Handbook

> 2008 and the new version of the
> Low Power Communications book by Rich Arnald.. It's gonna be a good one..!
>
> Flickin' through the new Handbook I came across the article again for the
> 3CX1500D7 RF Linear Amplifer... the
> Very same one that was featured on the front cover of last years handbook
> with the write up inside also..
>
> It got me thinkin...
>
> Exactly HOW MUCH, would the tube or tubes for one of these beauties cost
in

> todays money..?? Also the base for the
> Tube, HOW MUCH would that be..??
>
> WHERE would one purchase such things.. (don't see any reference in the
> article to places that may stock these)..
>
> Indeed if the parts are expensive at todays prices ... is there an "older"
> alternative that one could use in such
> A "homebrew" project..??
>
> Enquiring Minds Are REALLY INTERESTED in learnin..'
>
>
> 72's 73's [hidden email]
>
> Andy
> GM0NWI
>
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Re: Just Wonderin'...

rrkrr-2
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Eimac is a division of CPII (Communications and Power Industries,
Inc.).  Richardson Electronics is one of the primary distributors of new
Eimac products.  These tubes can last a lifetime in Amateur service if
treated with respect.  I don't know about this particular tube, but
there is a considerable market in used power tetrodes on the web.  You
can sometimes get a kW level power tetrode with half its service life
left for a couple of hundred $.

Bob K4ERR

Robert Dorchuck W6VY wrote:

> Last I heard the 3CX1500D7 (not an 8877) was only available
> to hams directly from Eimac.  This is a different animal than
> the 8877.
> Bob  W6VY
>
> --- [hidden email] wrote:
>
>  
>> The latest price I see for an 8877/3CX1500, from Alpha, is $950.00.
>> You don't
>> want to smoke one of those puppies!
>>
>> Doug, W6JD
>>
>> -------------- Original message --------------
>> From: "Andy - GM0NWI" <[hidden email]>
>>
>>    
>>> Guy's...
>>>
>>> Santa came REAL early this year.. today I took delivery of the ARRL
>>>      
>> Handbook
>>    
>>> 2008 and the new version of the
>>> Low Power Communications book by Rich Arnald.. It's gonna be a good
>>>      
>> one..!
>>    
>>> Flickin' through the new Handbook I came across the article again
>>>      
>> for the
>>    
>>> 3CX1500D7 RF Linear Amplifer... the
>>>      
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RE: Just Wonderin'...

peter gerba
Hi Bob;

That's correct, the 3CX1500A7 and D7 are completely different tubes. My
remarks were from experience with the 3CX1500A7, the 8877. I don't know
anything about the D7.  If the tube is a 3CX, then it's a Triode (unless the
coding has changed).

If you're interested, you might have a look on the Eimac WEB Site. I think
it's kept current.

CPI and Eimac/Varian have business offices in Palo Alto, CA.

Richardson is not the only vendor for the 8877. I don't know about the D7.


pete, kn6bi


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[mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of rrkrr
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 3:12 PM
To: Robert Dorchuck W6VY
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Just Wonderin'...


Eimac is a division of CPII (Communications and Power Industries,
Inc.).  Richardson Electronics is one of the primary distributors of new
Eimac products.  These tubes can last a lifetime in Amateur service if
treated with respect.  I don't know about this particular tube, but
there is a considerable market in used power tetrodes on the web.  You
can sometimes get a kW level power tetrode with half its service life
left for a couple of hundred $.

Bob K4ERR

Robert Dorchuck W6VY wrote:

> Last I heard the 3CX1500D7 (not an 8877) was only available
> to hams directly from Eimac.  This is a different animal than
> the 8877.
> Bob  W6VY
>
> --- [hidden email] wrote:
>
>
>> The latest price I see for an 8877/3CX1500, from Alpha, is $950.00.
>> You don't
>> want to smoke one of those puppies!
>>
>> Doug, W6JD
>>
>> -------------- Original message --------------
>> From: "Andy - GM0NWI" <[hidden email]>
>>
>>
>>> Guy's...
>>>
>>> Santa came REAL early this year.. today I took delivery of the ARRL
>>>
>> Handbook
>>
>>> 2008 and the new version of the
>>> Low Power Communications book by Rich Arnald.. It's gonna be a good
>>>
>> one..!
>>
>>> Flickin' through the new Handbook I came across the article again
>>>
>> for the
>>
>>> 3CX1500D7 RF Linear Amplifer... the
>>>
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RE: Just Wonderin'...

John A. Ross [Ecraft]
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Andy

Are you happier now that you have seen some new 3CX... and 8877 with nice
eimac bases and funnels in the flesh???

When will we see that amplifier of yours built ??

hihi

John



> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Andy - GM0NWI
> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 6:20 PM
> To: 'Elecraft Discussion List'
> Subject: [Elecraft] Just Wonderin'...
>
> Guy's...
>
> Santa came REAL early this year.. today I took delivery of
> the ARRL Handbook
> 2008 and the new version of the
> Low Power Communications book by Rich Arnald.. It's gonna be
> a good one..!
>
> Flickin' through the new Handbook I came across the article
> again for the
> 3CX1500D7 RF Linear Amplifer... the
> Very same one that was featured on the front cover of last
> years handbook with the write up inside also..
>
> It got me thinkin...
>
> Exactly HOW MUCH, would the tube or tubes for one of these
> beauties cost in todays money..??  Also the base for the
> Tube, HOW MUCH would that be..??
>
> WHERE would one purchase such things.. (don't see any
> reference in the article to places that may stock these)..
>
> Indeed if the parts are expensive at todays prices ... is
> there an "older"
> alternative that one could use in such
> A "homebrew" project..??
>
> Enquiring Minds Are REALLY INTERESTED in learnin..'
>
>
> 72's 73's                                        
> [hidden email]
>
> Andy
> GM0NWI                        
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RE: Just Wonderin'...

John A. Ross [Ecraft]
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Howson [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 12:12 AM
> To: John A. Ross [Ecraft]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Just Wonderin'...
>
> John
>
> Well he is not stuck for a box to put it in !!
>

Peter

Yip cool chassis.

He would only be stuck for something to drive it with when finished (without
an ICOM badge on it anyway ;-) )

Apologies to all for the OT humour

BR, John


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> To: "'Elecraft Discussion List'" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 9:53 PM
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Just Wonderin'...
>
>
> > Andy
> >
> > Are you happier now that you have seen some new 3CX... and
> 8877 with nice
> > eimac bases and funnels in the flesh???
> >
> > When will we see that amplifier of yours built ??
> >
> > hihi
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [hidden email]
> >> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> Andy - GM0NWI
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 6:20 PM
> >> To: 'Elecraft Discussion List'
> >> Subject: [Elecraft] Just Wonderin'...
> >>
> >> Guy's...
> >>
> >> Santa came REAL early this year.. today I took delivery of
> >> the ARRL Handbook
> >> 2008 and the new version of the
> >> Low Power Communications book by Rich Arnald.. It's gonna be
> >> a good one..!
> >>
> >> Flickin' through the new Handbook I came across the article
> >> again for the
> >> 3CX1500D7 RF Linear Amplifer... the
> >> Very same one that was featured on the front cover of last
> >> years handbook with the write up inside also..
> >>
> >> It got me thinkin...
> >>
> >> Exactly HOW MUCH, would the tube or tubes for one of these
> >> beauties cost in todays money..??  Also the base for the
> >> Tube, HOW MUCH would that be..??
> >>
> >> WHERE would one purchase such things.. (don't see any
> >> reference in the article to places that may stock these)..
> >>
> >> Indeed if the parts are expensive at todays prices ... is
> >> there an "older"
> >> alternative that one could use in such
> >> A "homebrew" project..??
> >>
> >> Enquiring Minds Are REALLY INTERESTED in learnin..'
> >>
> >>
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