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[Neoklis Kyriazis]

Hi

I have just joint the elecraft mailing list as I am interested in the K3. However I am a Linux user, and as such always have problems with (not) available software from vendors of most equipment for Ham Radio, among other things.

I have already sent a couple of emails to K3 support but so far no reply. I would like to know if it is possible to do firmware upgrade in Linux somehow, as the Elecraft utility programs will not run on my 64-bit Arch Linux platform. I can write software for Linux but I need the interface API to do this, I wonder if Elecraft would supply whatever info is needed to write a simple program to update firmware.

Anyone using a K3 with a Linux box?

73's  Nick 5B4AZ

 

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Hello Nick and welcome to the Elecraft list.

Yes, the K3 utility is certainly available for Linux and you can get it
at

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/software/k3utility_1_4_1_8.tgz

I cannot claim to be a user of Linux myself, but you might like to give
the above program a go.

73

David G4DMP

In a recent message, Neoklis Kyriazis <[hidden email]> writes

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>Hi
>
>I have just joint the elecraft mailing list as I am interested in the
>K3. However I am a Linux user, and as such always have problems with
>(not) available software from vendors of most equipment for Ham Radio,
>among other things.
>
>I have already sent a couple of emails to K3 support but so far no
>reply. I would like to know if it is possible to do firmware upgrade in
>Linux somehow, as the Elecraft utility programs will not run on my
>64-bit Arch Linux platform. I can write software for Linux but I need
>the interface API to do this, I wonder if Elecraft would supply
>whatever info is needed to write a simple program to update firmware.
>
>Anyone using a K3 with a Linux box?
>
>73's  Nick 5B4AZ

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[Neoklis Kyriazis]

Thanks, David

I have already tried it but it will not work on my box, as it is an old binary and will not run on a new Linux platform. Still, I was hoping for a reply from Elecraft, but perhaps they are on their vacation.

 
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Hello Nick and welcome to the Elecraft list.

Yes, the K3 utility is certainly available for Linux and you can get it
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Neoklis,

To obtain a reply direct from Elecraft, send email to [hidden email].
Some of the people at Elecraft (mostly Wayne Burdick and Eric Schwartz)
do monitor the reflector on occasion, but there are no guarantees.

We are a list of users who try to help each other.
Yes Gary has been on vacation, but will start wading through his email
inbox today - it may take him some time.

73,
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> Thanks, David
>
> I have already tried it but it will not work on my box, as it is an old binary and will not run on a new Linux platform. Still, I was hoping for a reply from Elecraft, but perhaps they are on their vacation.
>
>  
> Regards
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Thanks David, I will wait for him to settle at work ;-)

 
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OK, Nick.  Eric has mentioned that Gary was off work yesterday but is
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hearing from him later today.  You'll find him very helpful.
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[Neoklis Kyriazis]

OK Don,

I did write to support a couple of times over the last few days, but I did think they are very likely on vacation, so I thought I should try the list also. Everyone is very helpful.

Thanks and 73 - "nick" 5B4AZ

 
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Neoklis,

To obtain a reply direct from Elecraft, send email to [hidden email].
Some of the people at Elecraft (mostly Wayne Burdick and Eric Schwartz) do monitor the reflector on occasion, but there are no guarantees.

We are a list of users who try to help each other.
Yes Gary has been on vacation, but will start wading through his email inbox today - it may take him some time.

73,
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Hi Neoklis,

The binary I downloaded from Elecraft works just fine on my Linux netbook,
running Ubuntu 11.04, there wasn't any problems either before or after I
upgraded from 10.10, so I don't know why it doesn't work for you. What
output do you get - maybe there are some library packages you need to
install.

73, Thomas M0TRN


On 4 August 2011 12:06, Neoklis Kyriazis <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thanks, David
>
> I have already tried it but it will not work on my box, as it is an old
> binary and will not run on a new Linux platform. Still, I was hoping for a
> reply from Elecraft, but perhaps they are on their vacation.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Neoklis - Ham Radio Call 5B4AZ
> QTH Locator KM64KR
> Website: http://www.qsl.net/5b4az/
>
>
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> Hello Nick and welcome to the Elecraft list.
>
> Yes, the K3 utility is certainly available for Linux and you can get it
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[Neoklis Kyriazis]

Hi Thomas

The problem is that I have installed a 64-bit only Arch Linux X86-64 distro and the utility is 32-bit. If necessary I beleive I can install multilib, which could give me 32-bit compatibility so the utility can run. I will try later after I finish some upgrade work on some of my Ham radio Linux software (upgrading from OSS to ALSA sound API). I beleive I will need 32-bit compatibility for Skype also.

73's   5B4AZ

 
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Hi Neoklis,

The binary I downloaded from Elecraft works just fine on my Linux netbook, running Ubuntu 11.04, there wasn't any problems either before or after I upgraded from 10.10, so I don't know why it doesn't work for you. What output do you get - maybe there are some library packages you need to install.

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Hi Neoklis,

Installing the 32-bit compatibility libraries (ia32-libs) should solve the problem with 64-bit Linux. I expect you will find many Linux apps will require the 32-bit libraries.

David, W4SMT (Author of K3 Utility for Linux)


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Hi Thomas

The problem is that I have installed a 64-bit only Arch Linux X86-64 distro and the utility is 32-bit. If necessary I beleive I can install multilib, which could give me 32-bit compatibility so the utility can run. I will try later after I finish some upgrade work on some of my Ham radio Linux software (upgrading from OSS to ALSA sound API). I beleive I will need 32-bit compatibility for Skype also.

73's   5B4AZ

 
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Hi Neoklis,

The binary I downloaded from Elecraft works just fine on my Linux netbook, running Ubuntu 11.04, there wasn't any problems either before or after I upgraded from 10.10, so I don't know why it doesn't work for you. What output do you get - maybe there are some library packages you need to install.

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[Neoklis Kyriazis]

Thanks, David

I also feel this is the problem, as you say some apps also need 32 bit support, notably Skype. But it would be nice to recompile the utility on an X86_64 platform, as this is now becoming the common platform.

73's de 5B4AZ

 
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Hi Neoklis,

Installing the 32-bit compatibility libraries (ia32-libs) should solve the problem with 64-bit Linux. I expect you will find many Linux apps will require the 32-bit libraries.

David, W4SMT (Author of K3 Utility for Linux)
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[Pierfrancesco Caci]

>>>>> "Neoklis" == Neoklis Kyriazis <[hidden email]> writes:


    Neoklis> Hi Thomas
    Neoklis> The problem is that I have installed a 64-bit only Arch
    Neoklis> Linux X86-64 distro and the utility is 32-bit. If necessary
    Neoklis> I beleive I can install multilib, which could give me
    Neoklis> 32-bit compatibility so the utility can run. I will try
    Neoklis> later after I finish some upgrade work on some of my Ham
    Neoklis> radio Linux software (upgrading from OSS to ALSA sound
    Neoklis> API). I beleive I will need 32-bit compatibility for Skype
    Neoklis> also.

Neoklis,
I use 64bit ubuntu (the last LTS, though, not the most recent
one), and the K3util works fine. The only thing that doesn't work is the
help tool of the k3util, some library is missing/confused.

The other apps offered by Elecraft instead are windows only. No way of
running the memory editor in wine. I'm told some of the other tools
(e.g. the one to upgrade the firmware to the 2m internal transverter)
are windows only too.



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>>>>> "David" == David Fleming <[hidden email]> writes:


    David> Hi Neoklis,
    David> Installing the 32-bit compatibility libraries (ia32-libs)
    David> should solve the problem with 64-bit Linux. I expect you will
    David> find many Linux apps will require the 32-bit libraries.

David,
it would be nice if you could run a compile for 64 bit.

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On 04/08/11 15:32, Neoklis Kyriazis wrote:

> The problem is that I have installed a 64-bit only Arch Linux X86-64 distro and the utility is 32-bit. If necessary I beleive I can install multilib, which could give me 32-bit compatibility so the utility can run. I will try later after I finish some upgrade work on some of my Ham radio Linux software (upgrading from OSS to ALSA sound API). I beleive I will need 32-bit compatibility for Skype also.

Why not install a 32 bit distro?

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* On 2011 05 Aug 01:41 -0500, Pierfrancesco Caci wrote:
> Neoklis,
> I use 64bit ubuntu (the last LTS, though, not the most recent
> one), and the K3util works fine. The only thing that doesn't work is the
> help tool of the k3util, some library is missing/confused.

I was advised to install the libgtkhtml package to enable the help
functionality.  It does not seem to matter that it is at version 3.32 in
Debian Sid, it still works.

> The other apps offered by Elecraft instead are windows only. No way of
> running the memory editor in wine. I'm told some of the other tools
> (e.g. the one to upgrade the firmware to the 2m internal transverter)
> are windows only too.

Yes, unfortunately that is true.  It's too bad that the memory editing
commands used by the memory editor have not been released so an
equivalent program could be written for other platforms.  Unfortunately,
the Linux user must still have a Windows crutch lying around to enjoy
the K3 to its fullest.  Sigh...

73, de Nate >>

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It would be even nicer if the tool was open source so we could do it
ourselves..

Thomas

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> >>>>> "David" == David Fleming <[hidden email]> writes:
>
>
>    David> Hi Neoklis,
>    David> Installing the 32-bit compatibility libraries (ia32-libs)
>    David> should solve the problem with 64-bit Linux. I expect you will
>    David> find many Linux apps will require the 32-bit libraries.
>
> David,
> it would be nice if you could run a compile for 64 bit.
>
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From: Pierfrancesco Caci <[hidden email]>

>Neoklis,
>I use 64bit ubuntu (the last LTS, though, not the most recent
>one), and the K3util works fine. The only thing that doesn't work is the

>help tool of the k3util, some library is missing/confused.
I can understand the feeling. I just bought an HP P1102w printer that was
on discount offer - now I am struggling to get it to work in Linux...

>The other apps offered by Elecraft instead are windows only. No way of
>running the memory editor in wine. I'm told some of the other tools
>(e.g. the one to upgrade the firmware to the 2m internal transverter)

>are windows only too. 
Well, this is were I can't understand so many manufacturers, wanting to hide
the communication protocol of their products. It discloses little of the internal
functioning and it prevents the Linux community trying to fill the gap in the
(not) available drivers/utilities....

 
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Nate -

The commands are in the programmers manual. See MC, FA, MD for the basics.

73, Mike NF4L

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> Yes, unfortunately that is true.  It's too bad that the memory editing
> commands used by the memory editor have not been released so an
> equivalent program could be written for other platforms.  Unfortunately,
> the Linux user must still have a Windows crutch lying around to enjoy
> the K3 to its fullest.  Sigh...
>
> 73, de Nate>>
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* On 2011 05 Aug 08:58 -0500, Mike wrote:
> Nate -
>
> The commands are in the programmers manual. See MC, FA, MD for the basics.

There is not enough "magic" in those commands to set a memory
channel--FA/FB sets VFO frequency, MD sets mode, MC recalls memory
channel.  Nothing in that set of commands writes a memory channel nor
manipulates the text string that can be stored with a memory channel
from the memory editor.  So far I have not been able to divine how to
set a memory channel from the programmers reference.  I will admit to
being somewhat dense at times, so a short tutorial would be welcome.

73, de Nate >>

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Nate -

I can't find anything about the text string either.

But a memory can still be set.

Select the memory channel with an MC - MC027;
Set the freq with an FA - FA00010141000;
Set the mode with MD - MD3;
Tap the V>M switch twice - SWT15;SWT15; Look for the table of switch numbers under
the heading SWT/SWH * (Switch Emulation; SET only) in the programmers manual.

And Robert's your father's sibling :-)

73, Mike NF4L

On 8/5/2011 10:09 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote:

> * On 2011 05 Aug 08:58 -0500, Mike wrote:
>> Nate -
>>
>> The commands are in the programmers manual. See MC, FA, MD for the basics.
> There is not enough "magic" in those commands to set a memory
> channel--FA/FB sets VFO frequency, MD sets mode, MC recalls memory
> channel.  Nothing in that set of commands writes a memory channel nor
> manipulates the text string that can be stored with a memory channel
> from the memory editor.  So far I have not been able to divine how to
> set a memory channel from the programmers reference.  I will admit to
> being somewhat dense at times, so a short tutorial would be welcome.
>
> 73, de Nate>>
>

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>>>>> "Mike" == Mike  <[hidden email]> writes:


    Mike> Nate -
    Mike> I can't find anything about the text string either.

    Mike> But a memory can still be set.

    Mike> Select the memory channel with an MC - MC027;
    Mike> Set the freq with an FA - FA00010141000;
    Mike> Set the mode with MD - MD3;
    Mike> Tap the V>M switch twice - SWT15;SWT15; Look for the table of switch numbers under
    Mike> the heading SWT/SWH * (Switch Emulation; SET only) in the programmers manual.

    Mike> And Robert's your father's sibling :-)


been there, done that, got this lousy perl script:

http://www.tippete.net/radio/k3mem



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