On 8/30/2017 7:30 PM, N4OI - Ken wrote:
> I do not understand the general fear of working with SMT components. As you get older, you will. Eyes, steadiness of hand, eye-hand coordination, all can make working with SMT a challenge. Mine will be 76 years old in a few months. Several years ago, I learned just enough to do relatively simple SMT work with fairly large SMT components in a band pass filter kit. I couldn't even SEE the smaller SMT components in that kit, and called in reinforcements. 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Agree Skip...
My son Jakub (15) is using his K1 mostly on receiving and learning CW and what is funny > time to time he is able to hear DX sigs better then on my K3... :) He is really proud to have his K1 because of that, hi. 73 - Petr, OK1RP ----- http://ok1rp.blogspot.com -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email]
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Joseph,
Contact sales about the KAT1. I have had official information that options will be available until the current supplies run out. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/30/2017 9:04 PM, Joseph M. Durnal wrote: > I'm going to try and finish it sooner than later. > > Any chance that KAT1 is still available? > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Now THAT is intriguing to me...
______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 > But how small would the K1 be if made with SMT's and a few toroids. Ooohhh.. > > 73, Byron N6NUL > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Jim has a point here, of course. I'm only 53, but my once
"aviator-quality" vision now requires quite a bit of augmentation to do close work like SMT... But I plan to fight it EVERY step of the way.... More magnification, more light, hell... I'll use robot hands if I need to. I like building! ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G On 8/30/2017 11:00 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > On 8/30/2017 7:30 PM, N4OI - Ken wrote: >> I do not understand the general fear of working with SMT components. > > As you get older, you will. Eyes, steadiness of hand, eye-hand > coordination, all can make working with SMT a challenge. Mine will be > 76 years old in a few months. Several years ago, I learned just enough > to do relatively simple SMT work with fairly large SMT components in a > band pass filter kit. I couldn't even SEE the smaller SMT components > in that kit, and called in reinforcements. > > 73, Jim K9YC Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Guys - I’m about to hit the magic “70” mark and have been using +250 readers for quite a while. I’ve also been a stamp collector since age eight. Bad eyes and stamp collectinig don’t go together very well! The readers are fine for reading (duhhhh) but when it comes to really small, close-up examination of stamps, I got out my checkbook several years ago and purchased a fairly inexpensive (~$350) stereo microscope. Couple years ago I took the plunge and built my first SMT-based QRP rig. In addition to some really small resistors and capacitors, it also had a couple of the 64 and 128 pin IC’s. Using that microscope made it a breeze. I’ve since built several SMT-based kits and find it quite easy with a microscope to see what one is doing. Now, unstable hands are quite another thing… :-(
So, if Elecraft ever starts offering SMT kits, one of this units is the only way to go. Jim / W6JHB Folsom, CA > On Aug 31, 2017, at 10:50 AM, Clay Autery <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Jim has a point here, of course. I'm only 53, but my once > "aviator-quality" vision now requires quite a bit of augmentation to do > close work like SMT... > > But I plan to fight it EVERY step of the way.... More magnification, > more light, hell... I'll use robot hands if I need to. I like building! > > ______________________ > Clay Autery, KY5G > > On 8/30/2017 11:00 PM, Jim Brown wrote: >> On 8/30/2017 7:30 PM, N4OI - Ken wrote: >>> I do not understand the general fear of working with SMT components. >> >> As you get older, you will. Eyes, steadiness of hand, eye-hand >> coordination, all can make working with SMT a challenge. Mine will be >> 76 years old in a few months. Several years ago, I learned just enough >> to do relatively simple SMT work with fairly large SMT components in a >> band pass filter kit. I couldn't even SEE the smaller SMT components >> in that kit, and called in reinforcements. >> >> 73, Jim K9YC > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Luckily to have mine K1, bought this year.
I intended to buy another one by the end of this year. Now I have to safely keep it as a jewel! https://www.flickr.com/photos/roney/34754819981/ Great little rig... 73 de PY1ZB On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 3:00 PM, James Bennett <[hidden email]> wrote: > Guys - I’m about to hit the magic “70” mark and have been using +250 > readers for quite a while. I’ve also been a stamp collector since age > eight. Bad eyes and stamp collectinig don’t go together very well! The > readers are fine for reading (duhhhh) but when it comes to really small, > close-up examination of stamps, I got out my checkbook several years ago > and purchased a fairly inexpensive (~$350) stereo microscope. Couple years > ago I took the plunge and built my first SMT-based QRP rig. In addition to > some really small resistors and capacitors, it also had a couple of the 64 > and 128 pin IC’s. Using that microscope made it a breeze. I’ve since built > several SMT-based kits and find it quite easy with a microscope to see what > one is doing. Now, unstable hands are quite another thing… :-( > > So, if Elecraft ever starts offering SMT kits, one of this units is the > only way to go. > > Jim / W6JHB > Folsom, CA > > > > > > > > On Aug 31, 2017, at 10:50 AM, Clay Autery <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > Jim has a point here, of course. I'm only 53, but my once > > "aviator-quality" vision now requires quite a bit of augmentation to do > > close work like SMT... > > > > But I plan to fight it EVERY step of the way.... More magnification, > > more light, hell... I'll use robot hands if I need to. I like building! > > > > ______________________ > > Clay Autery, KY5G > > > > On 8/30/2017 11:00 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > >> On 8/30/2017 7:30 PM, N4OI - Ken wrote: > >>> I do not understand the general fear of working with SMT components. > >> > >> As you get older, you will. Eyes, steadiness of hand, eye-hand > >> coordination, all can make working with SMT a challenge. Mine will be > >> 76 years old in a few months. Several years ago, I learned just enough > >> to do relatively simple SMT work with fairly large SMT components in a > >> band pass filter kit. I couldn't even SEE the smaller SMT components > >> in that kit, and called in reinforcements. > >> > >> 73, Jim K9YC > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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There is one infirmity that has not yet been mentioned that degrades
one's ability to work with SMT devices ... allergies. One sneeze and your project is over. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 8/31/2017 11:00 AM, James Bennett wrote: > Guys - I’m about to hit the magic “70” mark and have been using +250 readers for quite a while. I’ve also been a stamp collector since age eight. Bad eyes and stamp collectinig don’t go together very well! The readers are fine for reading (duhhhh) but when it comes to really small, close-up examination of stamps, I got out my checkbook several years ago and purchased a fairly inexpensive (~$350) stereo microscope. Couple years ago I took the plunge and built my first SMT-based QRP rig. In addition to some really small resistors and capacitors, it also had a couple of the 64 and 128 pin IC’s. Using that microscope made it a breeze. I’ve since built several SMT-based kits and find it quite easy with a microscope to see what one is doing. Now, unstable hands are quite another thing… :-( > > So, if Elecraft ever starts offering SMT kits, one of this units is the only way to go. > > Jim / W6JHB > Folsom, CA > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
LOL!! Well, yeah, if you have all the parts out in a pile... I have
organizers I use so that I never have more out on the work surface than absolutely required. And I don't even have allergies... but I have had a sneeze scatter little parts before. ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G On 8/31/2017 1:21 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > There is one infirmity that has not yet been mentioned that degrades > one's ability to work with SMT devices ... allergies. One sneeze and > your project is over. > > 73, > > Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW > Sparks NV DM09dn > Washoe County ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Coffee.
In the early 1980's I was working on a new PA design for Phoenix Missile. The original design used relatively narrow band klystons, and we needed more BW for, well, never mind. So the new design used a three-stage IMPATT diode amplifier (injection-locked oscillator in reality). A single diode driving a three-diode combiner driving a 16-diode combiner. The IMPATTs needed to be pretty well matched, a real problem with the state of the art at the time. So before we characterized each one in a test fixture, we serialized them. Mind you these were microwave packages with a ceramic pill mounted on a 1/8" diameter gold-plated copper flange with a 3-48 stud on the bottom. We just used a very fine probe to scratch the 10 digit serial number on the flange. I could do about 30 diodes first thing in the morning. After that and a cup or two of coffee I was done for the day. Wes N7WS On 8/31/2017 11:21 AM, Fred Jensen wrote: > There is one infirmity that has not yet been mentioned that degrades one's > ability to work with SMT devices ... allergies. One sneeze and your project > is over. > > 73, > > Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW > Sparks NV DM09dn > Washoe County ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I started with a magnifier on an arm with a circular florescent
lamp. I still use this device for anything which needs a bit of magnification including inspecting thru-hole boards and fixing knitting mistakes. I assembled a number of kits with SMT parts using this magnifier. I then got a cheap head-mounted magnifier with a built in LED light. It gives more magnification, but I haven't used it in any important project yet. It has the advantage of being portable, so it can go to field day to makes repairs. Then I came across a Bausch and Lomb zoom binocular microscope with a ring light for $120 at an electronics flea market. After checking it out, I quickly paid the seller. It is excellent for inspecting SMT parts for good solder connections. All of these devices can help with construction projects. 73 Bill AE6JV On 8/31/17 at 11:00 AM, [hidden email] (James Bennett) wrote: >Guys - I’m about to hit the magic “70” mark and have been >using +250 readers for quite a while. I’ve also been a stamp >collector since age eight. Bad eyes and stamp collectinig >don’t go together very well! The readers are fine for reading >(duhhhh) but when it comes to really small, close-up >examination of stamps, I got out my checkbook several years ago >and purchased a fairly inexpensive (~$350) stereo microscope. >Couple years ago I took the plunge and built my first SMT-based >QRP rig. In addition to some really small resistors and >capacitors, it also had a couple of the 64 and 128 pin IC’s. >Using that microscope made it a breeze. I’ve since built >several SMT-based kits and find it quite easy with a microscope >to see what one is doing. Now, unstable hands are quite another >thing… :-( Bill Frantz | If the site is supported by | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | ads, you are the product. | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | | Los Gatos, CA 95032 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Roney,
congrats for your K1 jewel > nice pics on Flickr. Yes, I am sure you will be really satisfied with that little rig. If it is properly aligned then it works like champ anywhere you are. Maybe it is time to buy some additional parts until they will be gone... Good luck! 73 - Petr, OK1RP ----- http://ok1rp.blogspot.com -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to lists+1215531472858-365791@n2.nabble.com
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