K1, calling CQ, 2x QRP QSO.
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I rarely call CQ - especially when running QRP. But sometimes, a fella
has to do what a fella has to do. Fired up the K1 on 20 meters, dialed up 14040 (or was it 14060 - can't recall) and called CQ. Got an answer from a station in NM which sure made me smile (I love NM). He was running an Argo 509 and we exchanged 449 sig reports. Hmm, 5 watts to a vertical, call CQ and work a guy a couple thousand miles away. Sunspots, who needs sunspots when you have mojo :-) - Keith KD1E - _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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A lot of people nowadays don't understand HF propagation. One MUST
remember that the propagation programs are not necessarily correct! Many times bands are really open, but there isn't any activity. A lot of folks make a quick check, listen a minute or two and assume the band is dead. ALWAYS listen and ALWAYS call a few "CQ's". You never know! A classic example of this is assuming 10,12,15 meters are beyond help. this part of the sunspot cycle. Many times it will be dead for East-West paths but open for North South paths, especially to South America from the USA. This is the great advantage of "beacons" in various places on 20-10 meters. Also weird anomalies will exist in propagation no computer program will predict. 73, Sandy W5TVW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darwin, Keith" <[hidden email]> To: "Elecraft Discussion List" <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 9:31 AM Subject: [Elecraft] K1, calling CQ, 2x QRP QSO. | I rarely call CQ - especially when running QRP. But sometimes, a fella | has to do what a fella has to do. | | Fired up the K1 on 20 meters, dialed up 14040 (or was it 14060 - can't | recall) and called CQ. Got an answer from a station in NM which sure | made me smile (I love NM). He was running an Argo 509 and we exchanged | 449 sig reports. | | Hmm, 5 watts to a vertical, call CQ and work a guy a couple thousand | miles away. Sunspots, who needs sunspots when you have mojo :-) | | - Keith KD1E - | _______________________________________________ | Elecraft mailing list | Post to: [hidden email] | You must be a subscriber to post to the list. | Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): | http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft | | Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm | Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com | | | | -- | No virus found in this incoming message. | Checked by AVG Free Edition. | Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.24/244 - Release Date: 1/30/2006 | | _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: K1, calling CQ, 2x QRP QSO.
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It is amazing how the bands marvelously "open up" during the really
big contest weekends, eh? :-) On 1/30/06, Sandy W5TVW <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Many times bands are really open, but there isn't any activity. A lot of > folks make a quick check, listen a minute or two and assume the band > is dead. ALWAYS listen and ALWAYS call a few "CQ's". You never know! 73 de Jeff, KE9V _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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A friend asked me yesterday if I knew why hams would be sending the
following "Cq cq callsign callsign test test" In cw over and over and over again I told him I did not, I could not find anything on the internet about it so I thought I would ask the most august body of hams for information. The signals where heard around 12:00 am midnight on 160m anyone know what was going on? Or why? _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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They're operating in a conTEST.
David wrote: >A friend asked me yesterday if I knew why hams would be sending the >following > >"Cq cq callsign callsign test test" > > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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The "test test" suggests a contest CQ. Probably from a automatic keyer or
a contest logging program. Some contesters just letem rip until they hear a response through the keying. There was a 160M CW contest over the weekend, so that was probably from that. -- Clark B. Wierda N8CBW > A friend asked me yesterday if I knew why hams would be sending the > following > > "Cq cq callsign callsign test test" > > In cw over and over and over again I told him I did not, I could not > find anything on the internet about it so I thought I would ask the most > august body of hams for information. The signals where heard around > 12:00 am midnight on 160m anyone know what was going on? Or why? > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
RE: K1, calling CQ, 2x QRP QSO.
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In reply to this post by Sandy W5TVW
Sandy, W6TVW wrote:
A lot of people nowadays don't understand HF propagation. One MUST remember that the propagation programs are not necessarily correct! ------------------------------ Absolutely!! The predictions are like weather forecasting. Today we have a 100% chance of rain in Northwest Oregon based on the most advanced data analysis in the world. We are told that we may be having the wettest January since Lewis and Clark trekked through here in 1805. Yet, outside my office window I see blue skies and the sun is shining! Keith's "mojo" is his interest and willingness to listen and call on a 'dead' band, aided of course by a good rig! I commend you for that Keith. I hope I can be on the other end of one of those QSO's one day. To me, your choices are at the heart of Ham Radio as I most enjoy it. Antenna modeling software, propagation analysis and all the rest are, at best, a sort of "virtual reality". As compelling as the graphics may be, they may not depict reality at all. At least back in the days when analysis was done crunching numbers with our only output huge arrays of digits on fan-fold paper we weren't seduced by fancy graphics into believing that the results were anything more real than a bunch of predictions based on a bunch of assumptions about what might be true. Ron AC7AC _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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"test" stands for "contest". This past weekend was the annual CQ WW
160-meter contest. Lots of fun! 73, de Earl, K6SE _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Sandy W5TVW
When I was testing my KPA-100 to see how hot the heat sink would get during
contest level CQ'ing and didn't yet have my 300W dummy load I set up the K2 with an automated CQ on the low end of 10M around 28.013. I figured it was a safe time of day on a dead band that wouldn't bother too many people (and not bother me with having to stop my tests to have an actual QSO). It was about 8AM ET and I had been testing for about an hour when a VP8 (who also happened to be using a K2/100) answered one of my calls. So the "dead" band came alive long enough to get me a new country on 10M at the bottom of the solar cycle. I hear people say that you need to listen more than CQ when you are QRP. But believe me...there are a bunch of us people who's ear's perk up when we hear a faint CQ in the noise. The weak signal is the one that attracts my attention although I have to admit to a slight letdown when a K1 with a K1 is not the VU7 I'd been hoping for. Good luck and keep CQing! Don't be afraid to get on at 3AM on 15M and call CQ. You just might find a kindred spirit who is not able to sleep either and have a great QSO. Tom K2TA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy W5TVW" <[hidden email]> To: "Darwin, Keith" <[hidden email]>; "Elecraft Discussion List" <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1, calling CQ, 2x QRP QSO. > A lot of people nowadays don't understand HF propagation. One MUST > remember that the propagation programs are not necessarily correct! > > Many times bands are really open, but there isn't any activity. A lot of > folks make a quick check, listen a minute or two and assume the band > is dead. ALWAYS listen and ALWAYS call a few "CQ's". You never know! > > A classic example of this is assuming 10,12,15 meters are beyond help. > this part of the sunspot cycle. Many times it will be dead for East-West paths > but open for North South paths, especially to South America from the USA. > > This is the great advantage of "beacons" in various places on 20-10 meters. > Also weird anomalies will exist in propagation no computer program > will predict. > > 73, > Sandy W5TVW > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Darwin, Keith" <[hidden email]> > To: "Elecraft Discussion List" <[hidden email]> > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 9:31 AM > Subject: [Elecraft] K1, calling CQ, 2x QRP QSO. > > > | I rarely call CQ - especially when running QRP. But sometimes, a fella > | has to do what a fella has to do. > | > | Fired up the K1 on 20 meters, dialed up 14040 (or was it 14060 - can't > | recall) and called CQ. Got an answer from a station in NM which sure > | made me smile (I love NM). He was running an Argo 509 and we exchanged > | 449 sig reports. > | > | Hmm, 5 watts to a vertical, call CQ and work a guy a couple thousand > | miles away. Sunspots, who needs sunspots when you have mojo :-) > | > | - Keith KD1E - > | _______________________________________________ > | Elecraft mailing list > | Post to: [hidden email] > | You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > | Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > | http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > | > | Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > | Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > | > | > | > | -- > | No virus found in this incoming message. > | Checked by AVG Free Edition. > | Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.24/244 - Release Date: > | > | > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: K1, calling CQ, 2x QRP QSO.
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G'day,
|A lot of people nowadays don't understand HF propagation. One MUST | remember that the propagation programs are not necessarily correct! Maybe so but I find W6ELProp a very useful indicator of what could be happening also Ham CAP/IonoProbe. | Many times bands are really open, but there isn't any activity. A lot of | folks make a quick check, listen a minute or two and assume the band | is dead. ALWAYS listen and ALWAYS call a few "CQ's". You never know! Too true. I often listen 09:00 - 10:00 UTC on 30 metres and it's dead until I put out a CQ, worked some interesting DX that way. Regards, Mike VP8NO _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
>Sandy, W6TVW wrote: > >A lot of people nowadays don't understand HF propagation. One MUST >remember that the propagation programs are not necessarily correct! > >------------------------------ > >Absolutely!! The predictions are like weather forecasting. > One must also remember that propagation "conventions" are not always correct, either! Take for instance the 80 Meter QRP-L Foxhunt a few weeks ago. The two foxes were in Virginia and Utah. I am located in New Jersey. Before the hunt began, conventional wisdom and experience told me that I would probably work the Virginia fox and probably wouldn't even hear the Utah fox. In reality, the exact opposite came to be! I guess when it comes to propagation you should "expect the unexpected". 73 de Larry W2LJ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
RE: K1, calling CQ, 2x QRP QSO.
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Larry, W2LJ wrote:
One must also remember that propagation "conventions" are not always correct, either! Take for instance the 80 Meter QRP-L Foxhunt a few weeks ago. The two foxes were in Virginia and Utah. I am located in New Jersey. Before the hunt began, conventional wisdom and experience told me that I would probably work the Virginia fox and probably wouldn't even hear the Utah fox. In reality, the exact opposite came to be! I guess when it comes to propagation you should "expect the unexpected". -------------------------------------------------------------------- Good point Larry! After all, we Hams were given the "shortwaves" to play in because all the experts with decades of on-air experience knew what we "couldn't get out of our own backyards" on those frequencies. It's significant to me that it was only a few of the Hams who did the work to open the shortwaves, and then to prove that even "daylight DX" was possible on the right frequencies. The majority of the Hams stubbornly hung around the longest wavelengths they could because they knew what the experts told them. The moral of the story is that if you want to experience something exciting and new, don't travel with the crowd. Ron AC7AC _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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