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Jim Bennett

K144XV Utility for Mac (Repost)

I posted this question several hours ago. It is in the archives, but I never got an email so I'm thinking that it never got sent to anyone. If it did, please excuse this possible double-post of my question. Here is what I asked:

I must be missing something - looking on the www.Elecraft.com/K3/144xv_software.htm pages and I'm unable to find the Mac OS X version of the K144XV Utility. I see the Windows version (1.3.2.27), but not the Mac version.

Towards the bottom of the page are links for the Mac version of the KUSB driver, but that isn't gonna help!

Please tell me that there really IS a Mac version of the firmware and where I can find it.

Thanks, Jim / W6JHB

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David Pratt

Re: K144XV Utility for Mac (Repost)

In a recent message, Jim Bennett <[hidden email]> writes
>Please tell me that there really IS a Mac version of the firmware and
>where I can find it.

Your original e-mail did appear on the reflector okay, Jim. I've had a
look at all possible sources but, like you, am unable to find a K144XV
utility for the Mac.

There seem to be several difficulties that Mac owners have is updating
Elecraft gear with the latest firmware that I feel a sensible solution
would be to get a cheap basic Windows compatible computer for the
purpose. Such a PC would only cost a few dollars and if you were in the
UK I would gladly give you one.

I won't say "scrap the Mac", but you know what I mean.

73 de David G4DMP

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Mike Markowski-2

Re: K144XV Utility for Mac (Repost)

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Jim,

This utility seems to be the only one where Elecraft is Windows-only with no
apparent plans to change. I discovered the same last year looking for the linux
version, when Elecraft support recommended using a virtual host. :-(

The easiest solution I found was installing VirtualBox (free) and then
installing Windows XP in it, but you do need an XP installation disc. (At work,
as soon as desktop PCs are bought for email/web, the Windows os is replaced with
linux so we have many old XP, Vista, 7 cd 'frisbees'.)

GL es 73,
Mike ab3ap

On 07/30/2012 11:29 PM, Jim Bennett wrote:
> I posted this question several hours ago. It is in the archives, but I never got an email so I'm thinking that it never got sent to anyone. If it did, please excuse this possible double-post of my question. Here is what I asked:
>
> I must be missing something - looking on the www.Elecraft.com/K3/144xv_software.htm pages and I'm unable to find the Mac OS X version of the K144XV Utility. I see the Windows version (1.3.2.27), but not the Mac version.
>
> Towards the bottom of the page are links for the Mac version of the KUSB driver, but that isn't gonna help!
>
> Please tell me that there really IS a Mac version of the firmware and where I can find it.
>
> Thanks, Jim / W6JHB
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Bill Frantz

Re: K144XV Utility for Mac (Repost)

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On April 11, 2012 I asked support about Mac support for the
K144XV. Garry Surrency replied:

>Not at this time, but we are working on it. You will need a Windows PC to do the K144XV f/w update.

My current plan is to beg help from friends who have PCs should
there be a new firmware release. (I worked with Windows 12 years
ago. I don't want to to pay for the pain of managing a Windows system.)

Cheers - Bill, AE6JV

On 7/30/12 at 20:29, [hidden email] (Jim Bennett) wrote:

>I must be missing something - looking on the
>www.Elecraft.com/K3/144xv_software.htm pages and I'm unable to
>find the Mac OS X version of the K144XV Utility. I see the
>Windows version (1.3.2.27), but not the Mac version.

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Jim Rogers, W4ATK

Re: K144XV Utility for Mac (Repost)

Bill,

Check out CrossOver. It is a $59.95 app from CodeWeavers that sets up a PC based program to run on a Mac. There is no requirement for Windows. I have used it for the following things so far, JT65-HF, EZNEC2 antenna design software, RS91 Icom Programming software, and lastly CWGet Morse decoder. If you are using a com port, as you would be, you will need to create a Unix type link to associate the COMx number to a USB/serial driver, very easy.

Jim, W4ATK

On Jul 31, 2012, at 6:21 AM, Bill Frantz wrote:

> On April 11, 2012 I asked support about Mac support for the
> K144XV. Garry Surrency replied:
>
>> Not at this time, but we are working on it. You will need a Windows PC to do the K144XV f/w update.
>
> My current plan is to beg help from friends who have PCs should
> there be a new firmware release. (I worked with Windows 12 years
> ago. I don't want to to pay for the pain of managing a Windows system.)
>
> Cheers - Bill, AE6JV
>
> On 7/30/12 at 20:29, [hidden email] (Jim Bennett) wrote:
>
>> I must be missing something - looking on the
>> www.Elecraft.com/K3/144xv_software.htm pages and I'm unable to
>> find the Mac OS X version of the K144XV Utility. I see the
>> Windows version (1.3.2.27), but not the Mac version.
>
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Raymond Sills

Re: K144XV Utility for Mac (Repost)

I'd recommend Crossover as well. It's a little strange to set up, but once done, it does a nice job.

I use it to run Echolink.

73 de Ray
K2ULR

On Jul 31, 2012, at 9:04 AM, W4ATK <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Bill,
>
> Check out CrossOver. It is a $59.95 app from CodeWeavers that sets up a PC based program to run on a Mac. There is no requirement for Windows. I have used it for the following things so far, JT65-HF, EZNEC2 antenna design software, RS91 Icom Programming software, and lastly CWGet Morse decoder. If you are using a com port, as you would be, you will need to create a Unix type link to associate the COMx number to a USB/serial driver, very easy.
>
> Jim, W4ATK
>
> On Jul 31, 2012, at 6:21 AM, Bill Frantz wrote:
>
>> On April 11, 2012 I asked support about Mac support for the
>> K144XV. Garry Surrency replied:
>>
>>> Not at this time, but we are working on it. You will need a Windows PC to do the K144XV f/w update.
>>
>> My current plan is to beg help from friends who have PCs should
>> there be a new firmware release. (I worked with Windows 12 years
>> ago. I don't want to to pay for the pain of managing a Windows system.)
>>
>> Cheers - Bill, AE6JV
>>
>> On 7/30/12 at 20:29, [hidden email] (Jim Bennett) wrote:
>>
>>> I must be missing something - looking on the
>>> www.Elecraft.com/K3/144xv_software.htm pages and I'm unable to
>>> find the Mac OS X version of the K144XV Utility. I see the
>>> Windows version (1.3.2.27), but not the Mac version.
>>
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>> Bill Frantz | The first thing you need when | Periwinkle
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>> CA 95032
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Jim Bennett

Re: K144XV Utility for Mac (Repost)

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Looks like something has gone astray with my email receiving - I'm only getting a couple of messages from this reflector, none of which were regarding my K144XV Utility question. I just popped up to the reflector archives and see that there were several replies. Thanks to those who answered me.

have an iMac with VMWARE Fusion and Win/XP sitting on another desk, so I'll have to load the USB->Serial driver over there and move my cable to that computer temporarily to run the utility. I wish Elecraft would have simply put a one-liner on their web page indicating that there was no Mac version of the K144XV Utility - would have saved me a bunch of time. And I hope that this utility WILL come in a Mac version some day, like the other's I've been using: K3 Utility, P3 Utility, KPA500 Utility - the Mac versions of them work very well.

Regards, Jim

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Jim Bennett

Re: K144XV Utility for Mac (Repost)

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Well, as JC Fogerty said in his "Stuck in Lodi Again" tune: things got tough, then things got worse…

It turns out that VMWARE Fusion is worthless for trying to run the K144XV application under Win/XP. They send "serial port" data to a file, instead of to the USB bus. Wonderful.

Two folks recommended using the $59 program "CrossOver" from CodeWeavers. They've got a 14 day free trial, so I thought I give it a shot. Installed their program and then installed the K144XV DOS utility. But, now I'm stuck - no idea how to define a COM port for this thing to use. The K3, P3, and KPA500 Utilities work fine with the Elecraft Serial-->USB cable, so I know I've got a working connection. Anyone know how to do this?

Wayne / Eric / Gary: Any progress getting the Mac version of the K144XV utility going to complement the other products?
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David Herring-3

Re: K144XV Utility for Mac (Repost)

Jim,

I'm not quite understanding why VMWare would be useless in this instance.

If you are using a serial USB device, you get to choose whether to present that device to the host OS (the mac) or to the guest OS (the instance of windows in the VM). Simply load up your drivers in the instance of windows running in your VM, choose to present this device to the guest OS (the VM) and it should work FB. I used to do this all the time and it has always worked perfectly.

Now that said, I've never used the K144XV application so I don't know about that, but I do know about VMware and when the drivers are loaded and the USB serial port is presented to the VM, it's a serial port like any other.

73 & Aloha,
Dave, AH6TD

On Jul 31, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Jim Bennett wrote:

> Well, as JC Fogerty said in his "Stuck in Lodi Again" tune: things got tough, then things got worse…
>
> It turns out that VMWARE Fusion is worthless for trying to run the K144XV application under Win/XP. They send "serial port" data to a file, instead of to the USB bus. Wonderful.
>
> Two folks recommended using the $59 program "CrossOver" from CodeWeavers. They've got a 14 day free trial, so I thought I give it a shot. Installed their program and then installed the K144XV DOS utility. But, now I'm stuck - no idea how to define a COM port for this thing to use. The K3, P3, and KPA500 Utilities work fine with the Elecraft Serial-->USB cable, so I know I've got a working connection. Anyone know how to do this?
>
> Wayne / Eric / Gary: Any progress getting the Mac version of the K144XV utility going to complement the other products?
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Roger de Valle

Re: K144XV Utility for Mac (Repost)

I have to agree Dave, I used fusion to set up my K144XV with no issues at all, I was using Windows 7 on fusion so I am not sure what Jim's problem would have been to cause the sort of issues he mentioned.

Roger VK3ADE

On 01/08/2012, at 19:21, David Herring <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Jim,
>
> I'm not quite understanding why VMWare would be useless in this instance.
>
> If you are using a serial USB device, you get to choose whether to present that device to the host OS (the mac) or to the guest OS (the instance of windows in the VM). Simply load up your drivers in the instance of windows running in your VM, choose to present this device to the guest OS (the VM) and it should work FB. I used to do this all the time and it has always worked perfectly.
>
> Now that said, I've never used the K144XV application so I don't know about that, but I do know about VMware and when the drivers are loaded and the USB serial port is presented to the VM, it's a serial port like any other.
>
> 73 & Aloha,
> Dave, AH6TD
>
>
>
> On Jul 31, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Jim Bennett wrote:
>
>> Well, as JC Fogerty said in his "Stuck in Lodi Again" tune: things got tough, then things got worse…
>>
>> It turns out that VMWARE Fusion is worthless for trying to run the K144XV application under Win/XP. They send "serial port" data to a file, instead of to the USB bus. Wonderful.
>>
>> Two folks recommended using the $59 program "CrossOver" from CodeWeavers. They've got a 14 day free trial, so I thought I give it a shot. Installed their program and then installed the K144XV DOS utility. But, now I'm stuck - no idea how to define a COM port for this thing to use. The K3, P3, and KPA500 Utilities work fine with the Elecraft Serial-->USB cable, so I know I've got a working connection. Anyone know how to do this?
>>
>> Wayne / Eric / Gary: Any progress getting the Mac version of the K144XV utility going to complement the other products?
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Jim Bennett

Re: K144XV Utility for Mac (Repost)

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OK - problem solved.

Hey guys - thanks for the Fusion follow-up replies! I was going to give CrossOver a shot but decided to look at Fusion one more time, as AH6TD and VK3ADE said it worked for them. Well, I certainly have a giant egg on my face. I was trying to use my K3/P3/KPA500 USB-->serial cable to do the K144XV firmware update! Nothing I did worked. But for some reason I remembered that the K144XV came with a separate cable that plugs into that little module, on the side. I pulled the K3/P3/KPA500 USB-->serial cable out and plugged in the one that hooks directly into the K144XV and - bingo - it works perfectly.

Yippee - now, on to actually USING the 2 meter module!

73, Jim / W6JHB
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