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K2/10 Low power

BYRON
Serial # 4455

What would cause the following low power after all the bandpass filters
have been peaked?  maximum power setting

160 meters - pwr= 2 watts
80 mtrs-pwr= 6 watts
40mtrs-pwr= 7 watts
30mtrs-pwr= 8 watts
20meters-pwr=3 watts
17 meters-pwr =2 watts
15 mtrs- pwr= 3 watts
12 mtrs-pwr=1.5 watts
10mtrs-pwr 1.0 watt

Byron / N4AX
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Re: K2/10 Low power

Don Wilhelm
Byron,

There is no single cause, other than to say that somewhere in the
transmit RF chain there is a problem.

Turn to the back of the K2 manual and do the Transmit Signal Tracing
procedures.
While doing the procedures, work in the order listed.  You may ignore RF
voltages that are greater than the listed expected value.
What you are looking for is the first point where the RF voltage is
substantially lower than the expected value.  That is the output of the
failing stage.  Check that stage in detail - component values, solder
connections, DC voltages etc.
Refer to the schematic to identify the components associated with that
stage.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/3/2017 8:46 AM, Byron Allen wrote:
> Serial # 4455
>
> What would cause the following low power after all the bandpass filters
> have been peaked?  maximum power setting
>
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Re: K2/10 Low power

BYRON
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Don,

I have now done more tests and bandpass filter alignments....Don,
 As you suggested I checked all the voltages in the Elecraft manual on the
RF board. All are good...

Here is the  (MAX) power (OUT) int a dummy load on each band and I noticed
something  that was peculiar.

10m = 2 watts
12m = 2 watts
15m = 3.5 watts
17m = 4 watts
20m = 5 watts
30m = 10 watts
40m = 12 watts
80m = 12 watts
160m = 4 - 5 watts

I notice while on 40 meters that as I decrease the power setting the power
out peaks a tiny bit at he 12 oclock position to 13 watts  and doesnt start
decreasing until I get to 10 oclock and as I turn powerback up after I get
past 12 oclock the max power drops off by 1 watt.

What do I test or change next?  is my driver transistor at fault, just not
driving the finals???

Trying to get this resolved before the  CQ 160 Meter CW Contest on the
27th, need a true 5 watts during the contest and to not harm my rig during
the event.

Byron / N4AX


On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 7:46 AM, Byron Allen <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Serial # 4455
>
> What would cause the following low power after all the bandpass filters
> have been peaked?  maximum power setting
>
> 160 meters - pwr= 2 watts
> 80 mtrs-pwr= 6 watts
> 40mtrs-pwr= 7 watts
> 30mtrs-pwr= 8 watts
> 20meters-pwr=3 watts
> 17 meters-pwr =2 watts
> 15 mtrs- pwr= 3 watts
> 12 mtrs-pwr=1.5 watts
> 10mtrs-pwr 1.0 watt
>
> Byron / N4AX
>
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Re: K2/10 Low power

Don Wilhelm
Byron,

OK on the DC voltages.  You may have to resort to measuring the RF
voltages as indicated in Appendix E of the manual - Transmit Signal
Tracing to find where the failure might be.

Check the value of R98 on the bottom of the RF board.  The fact that the
maximum power drops off significantly on the higher bands tells me that
the value of R98 could be greater than the stock value of 270 ohms.

What happens to the voltage at RF Board U9 pin 3 when you do a TUNE?  It
should drop to 1/2 the value that it has during receive.  If not, Q20 is
not working properly.

For your 160 meter problem - is C153 68pF?  Also is C68 10pF (if you
have an older K2, it may be 4.7pF.

On the irregular behavior of the POWER knob, it could be a worn pot -
look at the power displayed as you turn the knob - it should be smooth.
If it is, my suspicion lies with the value of R98.  Remember that the
VALC voltage is what actually controls the drive to the TX Mixer, and
the value of R98 is a controlling factor in the power control loop damping.
If this K2 had the KPA100 installed and the power output went up and
down during transmission, the fix is to increase the value of R98 - some
builders went too far with the increase resulting in low power on the
higher bands and possibly 160 meters.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/19/2017 10:55 AM, Byron Allen wrote:
> Don,
>
> I have now done more tests and bandpass filter alignments....Don,
>  As you suggested I checked all the voltages in the Elecraft manual on the
> RF board. All are good...
>
> Here is the  (MAX) power (OUT) int a dummy load on each band and I noticed
> something  that was peculiar.
>
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