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K2 ALC problem

Gary D Krause
Hi,

I've noticed that my power output on 40 meters LSB is a lot higher than
expected.  I get four to five bars or more on the peaks in the ALC mode.  I
even got a high current reading last night and I then turned the power back
from 12 watts to 10.  I get 4 to five bars even at five watts.  It didn't make
much difference and I've found that I need to hold the mic further away. I
switched to USB on 40 meters and it looks fine.  It looks good on the higher
USB frequencies also.  I've noticed that it is around 2 to three bars on 80
meters LSB which is normal according to the manual.

I'm wondering if it could be a carrier balance adjustment?  Any ideas would be
greatly appreciated.  Everything else appears normal.  I've checked all solder
connections on the SSB board several times and re-flowed the connections I
considered suspect.

Thanks,
Gary, N7HTS



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Re: K2 ALC problem

David Woolley (E.L)
Gary D Krause wrote:
>
> I've noticed that my power output on 40 meters LSB is a lot higher than
> expected.  I get four to five bars or more on the peaks in the ALC
> mode.  I even got a high current reading last night and I then turned

The number of bars in ALC display mode does not indicate the output
power; it indicates the transmit chain gain (more accurately the excess
gain over that needed to achieve the demanded power).

The K2 does have more or less maximum gain on 40m.  I suspect that the
gain drops with increasing frequency because the transistors' gain
reduces with frequency, and it drops with decreasing frequency because
the coupling transformers are less effective.

The ALC is greatest on 40m to stop the output power being greater.

> the power back from 12 watts to 10.  I get 4 to five bars even at five
> watts.  It didn't make much difference and I've found that I need to
> hold the mic further away. I switched to USB on 40 meters and it looks
> fine.  It looks good on the higher USB frequencies also.  I've noticed

That's weird.  Any difference between USB and LSB should switch between
USB and LSB on the higher frequency bands.

> that it is around 2 to three bars on 80 meters LSB which is normal
> according to the manual.
>
> I'm wondering if it could be a carrier balance adjustment?  Any ideas

A severe carrier balance problem would result in their being ALC bars
lit when there was no audio.  As the carrier is also suppressed by the
filter, I'm not sure that you would get enough leakage to trigger this,
though.

If the sideband switched at higher frequencies, I would suggest the
problem was that your filter 1 wasn't correctly aligned for one of the
sidebands, but if it is always the one sideband that needs more ALC, I
have difficulty in imagining a mechanism that would cause that.

> would be greatly appreciated.  Everything else appears normal.  I've
> checked all solder connections on the SSB board several times and
> re-flowed the connections I considered suspect.


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Re: K2 ALC problem

Don Wilhelm-4
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Gary,

I would expect two possible causes.
One is the carrier balance adjustment.  Use a band below 21 MHz when
adjusting and adjust for LSB first.  If you have an oscilloscope, the
procedure is easy - connect a dummy load to the K2 and connect a paddle
or straight key to the key jack.  The oscilloscope is to measure the RF
output voltage, so connect it across the dummy load with a 10x probe and
set the vertical sensitivity to its greatest setting.  In LSB mode,
close the key (which activates PTT) and adjust the carrier balance for
minimum RF.  That setting should occur close to the center of the
trimpot.  Then check USB  If the USB carrier is greater than that for
LSB, adjust the pot a very small amount to see if you can reduce  the
carrier.  You may have to make some compromise to get the amount of
carrier the same between LSB and USB.  Note, if you use this method, do
not connect a microphone to the K2 and you do not have to set the menu
for "SSBA bal".  You can use a separate receiver to detect the minimum
carrier in place of the oscilloscope as indicated in the KSB2 manual,
but I suggest using the key to activate the PTT circuit rather than
plugging in a microphone.  A mic with its PTT button pressed can pick up
residual noise and cause a false indication.  This is easier done than
to write about it.

The second possible problem is alignment of the SSB filter.  Use
Spectrogram and set the BFO to position the OP1 filter passband between
300 Hz and 2600 Hz markers (use 300 and 2300 if you have the 2.1kHz
filter width or 300 and 2800 if you have the 2.6kHz filter width).  
Center the passband between the two markers.  Check both LSB and USB.

If you moved the SSB passband in the step above, re-visit the SSB
carrier balance adjustment.

If those steps do not correct the imbalance between LSB and USB, you may
have some fault on the KSB2 board.  A very small difference may exist,
but not to the extent that you have indicated.

73,
Don W3FPR

Gary D Krause wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've noticed that my power output on 40 meters LSB is a lot higher
> than expected.  I get four to five bars or more on the peaks in the
> ALC mode.  I even got a high current reading last night and I then
> turned the power back from 12 watts to 10.  I get 4 to five bars even
> at five watts.  It didn't make much difference and I've found that I
> need to hold the mic further away. I switched to USB on 40 meters and
> it looks fine.  It looks good on the higher USB frequencies also.  
> I've noticed that it is around 2 to three bars on 80 meters LSB which
> is normal according to the manual.
>
> I'm wondering if it could be a carrier balance adjustment?  Any ideas
> would be greatly appreciated.  Everything else appears normal.  I've
> checked all solder connections on the SSB board several times and
> re-flowed the connections I considered suspect.
>
> Thanks,
> Gary, N7HTS
>
>
>
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