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K2 RX/TX Problem

JohnK1JD
Trusty K2/100 SN#583 has a problem which is the first significant issue since building the basic K2 in Oct of 1999. The has been mostly unused (neglected?) since the K3 arrived last November, but decided to fire it up the other day and discovered that both RX and TX exhibit a broadband 'hash' sound instead of distinct CW when first turned on, both on signals received and on its transmitted signal. This problem lessens as the radio warms up and eventually disappears completely. I have used it quite a bit this weekend and it's been fine - until I turn it off for a few hours.

The frequencies for the VCO and BFO seem OK as do the voltages. Cal PLL was performed and completed without any errors.

Has anyone experienced this intermittent problem before?

Thanks & 73,
John K1JD

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Re: K2 RX/TX Problem

Vic K2VCO
JohnK1JD wrote:

> Trusty K2/100 SN#583 has a problem which is the first significant
> issue since building the basic K2 in Oct of 1999. The has been mostly
> unused (neglected?) since the K3 arrived last November, but decided
> to fire it up the other day and discovered that both RX and TX
> exhibit a broadband 'hash' sound instead of distinct CW when first
> turned on, both on signals received and on its transmitted signal.
> This problem lessens as the radio warms up and eventually disappears
> completely. I have used it quite a bit this weekend and it's been
> fine - until I turn it off for a few hours.
>
> The frequencies for the VCO and BFO seem OK as do the voltages. Cal
> PLL was performed and completed without any errors.
>
> Has anyone experienced this intermittent problem before?

Hi John!

I heard you on 20m this morning.

My first thought with any intermittent is always a forgotten or poor
solder joint. It would be interesting if it had just appeared after all
these years.

I would try reseating any socketed IC's. You could selectively cool
components with a freon spray to try to isolate it.

Also it might help to check and see if it happens on all bands/modes or
just specific ones.
--
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco
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Re: K2 RX/TX Problem

Don Wilhelm-4
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John,

A broadband 'hash' sound on both transmit and receive may be the result
of magnetic coupling to the VFO.

As a test, I suggest that you physically isolate the K2 from anything
that might contain a transformer (and that includes some lamps).  If the
problem reduces or disappears, then you have 2 options - 1) re-arrange
your operating position so the K2 is at least 2 feet away from anything
containing an AC transformer or 2) add the VCO shield kit.

If isolating the K2 does not cure the problem, then you will have to do
some de-bugging.  The most likely areas for the source of a problem of
that nature is the VFO and the BFO, and the most likely cause of a
problem that responds to heat and time is a bad solder connection.

73,
Don W3FPR

JohnK1JD wrote:
> Trusty K2/100 SN#583 has a problem which is the first significant issue since building the basic K2 in Oct of 1999. The has been mostly unused (neglected?) since the K3 arrived last November, but decided to fire it up the other day and discovered that both RX and TX exhibit a broadband 'hash' sound instead of distinct CW when first turned on, both on signals received and on its transmitted signal. This problem lessens as the radio warms up and eventually disappears completely. I have used it quite a bit this weekend and it's been fine - until I turn it off for a few hours.
>
> The frequencies for the VCO and BFO seem OK as do the voltages. Cal PLL was performed and completed without any errors.
>
> Has anyone experienced this intermittent problem before?
>  
>
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Re: K2 RX/TX Problem has been localized

JohnK1JD
All
The intermittent (cold rig only) problem cited below completely disappeared
upon removal of the NB and SSB boards (replacing them with the requisite
jumpers and the capacitor). The KSB2 board was put back first and the rig
still behaved perfectly.  However, when the NB board was plugged back in the
problem returned (note - the NB function is turned off).  Interesting that
both RX and TX are affected. More to follow...

73,
John K1JD
K3/100 #071
K2/100 #583

> JohnK1JD wrote:
Trusty K2/100 SN#583 has a problem which is the first significant issue
since building the basic K2 in Oct of 1999. The rig has been mostly unused
(neglected?) since the K3 arrived last November, but decided to fire it up
the other day and discovered that both RX and TX exhibit a broadband 'hash'
sound instead of distinct CW when first turned on, both on signals received
and on its transmitted signal. This problem lessens as the radio warms up
and eventually disappears completely. I have used it quite a bit this
weekend and it's been fine - until I turn it off for a few hours.The
frequencies for the VCO and BFO seem OK as do the voltages. Cal PLL was
performed and completed without any errors.

Has anyone experienced this intermittent problem before?



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Re: K2 RX/TX Problem has been localized

Don Wilhelm-4
John,

That sounds like a leaky capacitor on the KNB2 board.  The first ones to
suspect are the 0.1 uf caps with 0.1 inch lead spacing.  I would suggest
arbitrarily replacing all of them as the first order of business.

It is strange that both TX and RX are affected because the KNB2 is only
in the receive path - but then, strange things can happen.

73,
Don W3FPR

JohnK1JD wrote:

> All
> The intermittent (cold rig only) problem cited below completely
> disappeared upon removal of the NB and SSB boards (replacing them with
> the requisite jumpers and the capacitor). The KSB2 board was put back
> first and the rig still behaved perfectly.  However, when the NB board
> was plugged back in the problem returned (note - the NB function is
> turned off).  Interesting that both RX and TX are affected. More to
> follow...
>
> 73,
> John K1JD
> K3/100 #071
> K2/100 #583
>
>> JohnK1JD wrote:
> Trusty K2/100 SN#583 has a problem which is the first significant
> issue since building the basic K2 in Oct of 1999. The rig has been
> mostly unused (neglected?) since the K3 arrived last November, but
> decided to fire it up the other day and discovered that both RX and TX
> exhibit a broadband 'hash' sound instead of distinct CW when first
> turned on, both on signals received and on its transmitted signal.
> This problem lessens as the radio warms up and eventually disappears
> completely. I have used it quite a bit this weekend and it's been fine
> - until I turn it off for a few hours.The frequencies for the VCO and
> BFO seem OK as do the voltages. Cal PLL was performed and completed
> without any errors.
>
> Has anyone experienced this intermittent problem before?
>
>
>
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