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K2 Relay problem

graham knox
Gents,
      I have a K2 Serial 5375 which has performed perfectly since
completion 5 months ago, unfortunately it has recently developed a fault
I need  some advice on. The fault which causes the rig to function on
160m 30m &15m only is intermittent.I have found when the fault is active
that K13 remains in the reset state, I can usually clear the fault by
making several band changes or cycling the power a few times which puts K13 in the proper state for the selected band.
I have checked all soldering around RF U1 & the relays to no avail. When I
removed the control board to reset the relays I found powering on did
not cycle the relays as per fault finding guide.I feel the problem is
probably U1 or k13 but would appreciate advice on isolating the fault further.
                                             
                                          Regards  Graham  G4cpd


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RE: K2 Relay problem

Don Wilhelm-3
Graham,

The fact that the relays did not cycle to reset with the control board
removed is not likely an indication of the problem.  If I recall, this
'feature' does not work since the KIO chip firmware was reworked to add 60
meters.  That is only a guess, but I too tried this step to reset the relays
in the near past and found it did not work.

You may want to try doing continuity checks through the relay coils from the
top of the U1 socket.  If all looks well there, the relay may be 'sluggish'.
Of course, it may be that there has been a bit of oxidation on the socket or
pins of U1 and simply removing and reseating U1 will correct that condition,
or it could be that there is a marginal solder connection on some path (that
is actually the most likely possibility).

All in all, try using the schematic and attempt continuity checks that
include the greatest possible number of soldered connections will go a long
way toward detecting marginal components and solder joints.  Many bad solder
connections seem to work fine until 6 month to a year after assembly and
then 'mysteriously' fail, do not overlook that possibility.  Component
failure does happen but it is rare.

73,
Don W3FPR


> -----Original Message-----
>
> Gents,
>       I have a K2 Serial 5375 which has performed perfectly since
> completion 5 months ago, unfortunately it has recently developed a fault
> I need  some advice on. The fault which causes the rig to function on
> 160m 30m &15m only is intermittent.I have found when the fault is active
> that K13 remains in the reset state, I can usually clear the fault by
> making several band changes or cycling the power a few times
> which puts K13 in the proper state for the selected band.
> I have checked all soldering around RF U1 & the relays to no avail. When I
> removed the control board to reset the relays I found powering on did
> not cycle the relays as per fault finding guide.I feel the problem is
> probably U1 or k13 but would appreciate advice on isolating the
> fault further.
>
>                                           Regards  Graham  G4cpd
>

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RE: K2 Relay problem

Ron D'Eau Claire-2
This is also just about a common interval since assembly for a missed solder
connection to show up producing an intermittent or open connection as
oxidation builds up on the unsoldered metal surfaces.

Ron AC7AC

-----Original Message-----
Graham,

The fact that the relays did not cycle to reset with the control board
removed is not likely an indication of the problem.  If I recall, this
'feature' does not work since the KIO chip firmware was reworked to add 60
meters.  That is only a guess, but I too tried this step to reset the relays
in the near past and found it did not work.

You may want to try doing continuity checks through the relay coils from the
top of the U1 socket.  If all looks well there, the relay may be 'sluggish'.
Of course, it may be that there has been a bit of oxidation on the socket or
pins of U1 and simply removing and reseating U1 will correct that condition,
or it could be that there is a marginal solder connection on some path (that
is actually the most likely possibility).

All in all, try using the schematic and attempt continuity checks that
include the greatest possible number of soldered connections will go a long
way toward detecting marginal components and solder joints.  Many bad solder
connections seem to work fine until 6 month to a year after assembly and
then 'mysteriously' fail, do not overlook that possibility.  Component
failure does happen but it is rare.

73,
Don W3FPR


> -----Original Message-----
>
> Gents,
>       I have a K2 Serial 5375 which has performed perfectly since
> completion 5 months ago, unfortunately it has recently developed a
> fault I need  some advice on. The fault which causes the rig to
> function on 160m 30m &15m only is intermittent.I have found when the
> fault is active that K13 remains in the reset state, I can usually
> clear the fault by making several band changes or cycling the power a
> few times which puts K13 in the proper state for the selected band. I
> have checked all soldering around RF U1 & the relays to no avail. When
> I removed the control board to reset the relays I found powering on
> did not cycle the relays as per fault finding guide.I feel the problem
> is probably U1 or k13 but would appreciate advice on isolating the
> fault further.
>
>                                           Regards  Graham  G4cpd
>

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