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K2/XV with Writelog

Rajiv Dewan, N2RD
I tried to use my K2/KIO2/XV combination with Writelog for last  
weekend's CQWW VHF competition and failed.

I hooked up the K2 to a serial port and set it up on Writelog. While  
Writelog recognized the rig and could set the frequency, it went  
crazy while polling the rig for frequency.  It would keep cycling  
through all the bands and show random frequency that seemed to change  
with each poll.

(BTW, the combination worked just fine with N1MM logger.)

Has any one else noticed this?  Any fix?

Thanks,
Raj

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RE: K2/XV with Writelog

Don Wilhelm-3
Raj,

That certainly sounds like a Writelog problem.  If the K2 works properly
with another program, then there is nothing wrong with the K2 interface or
your connections - that leaves only the driving software and a small chance
that the sequence of commands is creating an unexpected path somewhere in
the K2 firmware.

There are methods of polling that are known not to work properly for all
combinations.  As an example, the polling done by the N4PY rig control
software causes problems if the KRC2ACC is incorporated into the setup - the
N4PY software works FB without the KRC2ACC included, and works nicely with
the KRC2 (only the 'ACC' versions gives problems).  So far, Carl has not
been willing to change his software to avoid the problem.

73,
Don W3FPR


> -----Original Message-----
>
> I tried to use my K2/KIO2/XV combination with Writelog for last
> weekend's CQWW VHF competition and failed.
>
> I hooked up the K2 to a serial port and set it up on Writelog. While
> Writelog recognized the rig and could set the frequency, it went
> crazy while polling the rig for frequency.  It would keep cycling
> through all the bands and show random frequency that seemed to change
> with each poll.
>
> (BTW, the combination worked just fine with N1MM logger.)
>
> Has any one else noticed this?  Any fix?
>
> Thanks,
> Raj
>
>

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Re: K2/XV with Writelog

Jeff Stai
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At 06:28 AM 7/17/2006, Rajiv Dewan, N2RD wrote:
>I tried to use my K2/KIO2/XV combination with Writelog for last  
>weekend's CQWW VHF competition and failed.

hi - perhaps one of these ideas will be helpful - I have used the K2+XV50 with writelog with no problem, so I would not think it is likely a software bug (unless it got broken in a later revision, still unlikely):

- is the rig frequency changing or just what writelog displays? I would assume the latter - it sure sounds like random data coming in.

- does it also do this without the XV hooked up?

- make sure you are selecting "Elecraft K2" in the Ports... setup.

- make sure you don't have any other activity also programmed for that COM port (CW etc.)

- I don't know this to be true, but perhaps N1MM and writelog do have differences (timing etc.) in the way that they make use of the port - I would still double check your cable assembly and make sure it is wired correctly for the K2 to rig and there are no shorts etc.

Hope one of the above ideas helps lead to a solution! - j



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Re: [WriteLog] K2/XV with Writelog

Rajiv Dewan, N2RD
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Symptom:  Freq polling shows wrong frequency and cycles through the bands
  Rig: K2 with the KIO2 and 4 transvertes XV50 thru XV432
Serial port:  4 port PCI card RocketPort

Following Hank's suggetion,  I tried the single COM1 that I have on the
motherboard.  On this the K2 and Writelog work.  There is no problem.

I have not had a problem with any other rig on the Rocketport.  Indeed,
my Yaesu 1KMP has no problem on the very port where K2 does not work.

I also do not have a problem with N1MM logger and any COM port.

Very odd.  It is only the combination of Writelog and the PCI Serial
Ports that have the problem.  With our without the XVs I  still have the
problem.  Essentially K2 - Writelog - PCI Serial Port are a no-go
combination.  Very odd.

Could something in my KIO2 be busted?  Or is it a design issue?  Why
shouldn't K2 work with all logging programs if hooked up correctly?

Thanks,
Raj, N2RD


k8dd wrote:

> I have not had that happen on a real COM port, but
> I had that happen with one USB - Serial cable.  I tried all
> the settings in the Ports section in WriteLog and could
> not get it to quit going through the bands.
> When I switched to another USB - Serial cable the problem
> went away.
> Not sure why!
>
> 73    Hank    K8DD
>
> On 7/17/06, Rajiv Dewan, N2RD <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I tried to use my K2/KIO2/XV combination with Writelog for last
>> weekend's CQWW VHF competition and failed.
>>
>> I hooked up the K2 to a serial port and set it up on Writelog. While
>> Writelog recognized the rig and could set the frequency, it went
>> crazy while polling the rig for frequency.  It would keep cycling
>> through all the bands and show random frequency that seemed to change
>> with each poll.
>>
>> (BTW, the combination worked just fine with N1MM logger.)
>>
>> Has any one else noticed this?  Any fix?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Raj
>>
>> --
>> Rajiv Dewan, N2RD
>> [hidden email]
>> FN13fc
>>
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RE: Re: [WriteLog] K2/XV with Writelog

Dan Barker
Very odd indeed. Curious.

You gotta sniffer it to know what's busted. 'puter, interface, software
(Writelog) or firmware (K2).

May not be worth the effort.

Dan / WG4S / K2 #2456

<snip>
Essentially K2 - Writelog - PCI Serial Port are a no-go combination.  Very
odd.
</snip>

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RE: Re: [WriteLog] K2/XV with Writelog

Don Wilhelm-3
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Raj,

It could be a timing problem created by the way your operating system
handles the PCI card ports as opposed to its handling of the native com
port.  If you are using WinXP, something like that is entirely possible.

Nothing in your KIO2 is broken.  The K2 operates with no handshaking, so
timing delays and latency caused by the operating system are the most likely
sources of the problems.

73,
Don W3FPR


> -----Original Message-----
>
> Symptom:  Freq polling shows wrong frequency and cycles through the bands
>   Rig: K2 with the KIO2 and 4 transvertes XV50 thru XV432
> Serial port:  4 port PCI card RocketPort
>
> Following Hank's suggetion,  I tried the single COM1 that I have on the
> motherboard.  On this the K2 and Writelog work.  There is no problem.
>
> I have not had a problem with any other rig on the Rocketport.  Indeed,
> my Yaesu 1KMP has no problem on the very port where K2 does not work.
>
> I also do not have a problem with N1MM logger and any COM port.
>
> Very odd.  It is only the combination of Writelog and the PCI Serial
> Ports that have the problem.  With our without the XVs I  still have the
> problem.  Essentially K2 - Writelog - PCI Serial Port are a no-go
> combination.  Very odd.
>
> Could something in my KIO2 be busted?  Or is it a design issue?  Why
> shouldn't K2 work with all logging programs if hooked up correctly?
>
> Thanks,
> Raj, N2RD
>

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Re: Re: [WriteLog] K2/XV with Writelog

Jack Brindle
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We know that the K2 works with Writelog in all sorts of serial  
interfaces, including USB serial adapters. I would wonder if the PCI  
serial port is somehow expecting handshake signals which the K2  
doesn't have (and presumably you do not have connected). If the port  
is looking for an input handshake that never occurs, it will tend not  
to work. You might look at the connector to see how RTS/CTS and DSR/
DTR are connected - they may need to be looped back for that card.  
Also check the serial port docs to see what it really needs.

Good luck!

On Jul 17, 2006, at 2:16 PM, Rajiv Dewan, N2RD wrote:

> Symptom:  Freq polling shows wrong frequency and cycles through the  
> bands
>  Rig: K2 with the KIO2 and 4 transvertes XV50 thru XV432
> Serial port:  4 port PCI card RocketPort
>
> Following Hank's suggetion,  I tried the single COM1 that I have on  
> the motherboard.  On this the K2 and Writelog work.  There is no  
> problem.
> I have not had a problem with any other rig on the Rocketport.  
> Indeed, my Yaesu 1KMP has no problem on the very port where K2 does  
> not work.
>
> I also do not have a problem with N1MM logger and any COM port.
>
> Very odd.  It is only the combination of Writelog and the PCI  
> Serial Ports that have the problem.  With our without the XVs I  
> still have the problem.  Essentially K2 - Writelog - PCI Serial  
> Port are a no-go combination.  Very odd.
>
> Could something in my KIO2 be busted?  Or is it a design issue?  
> Why shouldn't K2 work with all logging programs if hooked up  
> correctly?
>
> Thanks,
> Raj, N2RD
>
>
> k8dd wrote:
>
>> I have not had that happen on a real COM port, but
>> I had that happen with one USB - Serial cable.  I tried all
>> the settings in the Ports section in WriteLog and could
>> not get it to quit going through the bands.
>> When I switched to another USB - Serial cable the problem
>> went away.
>> Not sure why!
>>
>> 73    Hank    K8DD
>>
>> On 7/17/06, Rajiv Dewan, N2RD <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> I tried to use my K2/KIO2/XV combination with Writelog for last
>>> weekend's CQWW VHF competition and failed.
>>>
>>> I hooked up the K2 to a serial port and set it up on Writelog. While
>>> Writelog recognized the rig and could set the frequency, it went
>>> crazy while polling the rig for frequency.  It would keep cycling
>>> through all the bands and show random frequency that seemed to  
>>> change
>>> with each poll.
>>>
>>> (BTW, the combination worked just fine with N1MM logger.)
>>>
>>> Has any one else noticed this?  Any fix?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Raj
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rajiv Dewan, N2RD
>>> [hidden email]
>>> FN13fc
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>
>>
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