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John Huggins

K2 and K3... oh which one to pick

Sigh...

All this wonderful talk about the K2 and K3 has me right in the middle
of a good quandary...

- Do I buy a K2 with accessories (or add them later) and get it right
now plus build time or...
- Spring for a K3 with enough options for SSB and hope to get it before
March 2008 (Virginia QSO Party)

All this realizing that both units apparently fulfill my requirements
for very good receiver de-sense immunity from nearby signals and are
both pretty amazing radios.

I am not sure, but does the K3's lush selection of filters suggest the
K3's receiver design provides more selectivity and less de-sense than
the K2 receiver?

John

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Greg - AB7R

Re: K2 and K3... oh which one to pick

The K3 RX specs are better than the K2 and most other radios in just about every
category. The optional filters are roofing filters to control what is passed to
the IF and AF DSP. The ultimate BW is based on adjusting the WIDTH
control...making it much more flexible in determining BW than the K2.

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Greg - AB7R
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NA-065

On Thu Aug 9 18:30 , John Huggins sent:

>Sigh...
>
>All this wonderful talk about the K2 and K3 has me right in the middle
>of a good quandary...
>
> - Do I buy a K2 with accessories (or add them later) and get it right
>now plus build time or...
> - Spring for a K3 with enough options for SSB and hope to get it before
>March 2008 (Virginia QSO Party)
>
>All this realizing that both units apparently fulfill my requirements
>for very good receiver de-sense immunity from nearby signals and are
>both pretty amazing radios.
>
>I am not sure, but does the K3's lush selection of filters suggest the
>K3's receiver design provides more selectivity and less de-sense than
>the K2 receiver?
>
>John
>
>
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Jesse

Re: K2 and K3... oh which one to pick

Both,

I wouldn't miss winding toroid's and aligning
filters, not to mention real soldering. Then seeing
how close you can get WWV. The internal battery and
tuner is a blast on the porch with an all band doublet
with 600 ohm feeders. 10 to 15 watts with that antenna
does quite well at times. Then plug in the 100 watt
lid and outboard tuner for not so good conditions. And
it will still embarrass most other radios.

Now to save some more for my K3.

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Brett gazdzinski-2

RE: K2 and K3... oh which one to pick

In reply to this post by John Huggins

I think the eventual goal should be to get both.
The K3 is likely to be a far better radio than the K2,
maybe the best radio on the market, but you BUILD the K2.

Besides the fun of building, you get attached to a radio
you built.

Maybe get the K2 now and have fun building it, then get a K3
after the dust settles.

Brett
N2DTS

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of John Huggins
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 6:30 PM
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> Subject: [Elecraft] K2 and K3... oh which one to pick
>
> Sigh...
>
> All this wonderful talk about the K2 and K3 has me right in
> the middle
> of a good quandary...
>
> - Do I buy a K2 with accessories (or add them later) and get
> it right
> now plus build time or...
> - Spring for a K3 with enough options for SSB and hope to
> get it before
> March 2008 (Virginia QSO Party)
>
> All this realizing that both units apparently fulfill my requirements
> for very good receiver de-sense immunity from nearby signals and are
> both pretty amazing radios.
>
> I am not sure, but does the K3's lush selection of filters
> suggest the
> K3's receiver design provides more selectivity and less de-sense than
> the K2 receiver?
>
> John
>
>
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Thom LaCosta

Re: K2 and K3... oh which one to pick

In reply to this post by John Huggins

On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, John Huggins wrote:

>
> - Do I buy a K2 with accessories (or add them later) and get it right now
> plus build time or...
> - Spring for a K3 with enough options for SSB and hope to get it before March
> 2008 (Virginia QSO Party)

Depends on how much money you have, and the a vs tl ratio (antsi vs top line).

I suspect that the value of built k2's will fall once the K3 is out there, since
many K2 owners who can;t afford to house and feed two of little critters are
sellng off the K2, or will when the K3 shows up.

Based on that, I'd put more weight on the TL side of the see saw....but that's
only my viewpoint.

Of course some have mentioned buy both....but to me that's like buys two solid
gold cigar cutters (g).

73 k3hrn
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David Cutter

K2 and K3 remote or local control

You could leave one at your remote location (antenna farm) for remote
control and one at home. The problem then arises: which goes where?

David
G3UNA

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Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 and K3... oh which one to pick

> On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, John Huggins wrote:
>
>>
>> - Do I buy a K2 with accessories (or add them later) and get it right now
>> plus build time or...
>> - Spring for a K3 with enough options for SSB and hope to get it before
>> March 2008 (Virginia QSO Party)
>
> Depends on how much money you have, and the a vs tl ratio (antsi vs top
> line).
>
> I suspect that the value of built k2's will fall once the K3 is out there,
> since many K2 owners who can;t afford to house and feed two of little
> critters are sellng off the K2, or will when the K3 shows up.
>
> Based on that, I'd put more weight on the TL side of the see saw....but
> that's only my viewpoint.
>
> Of course some have mentioned buy both....but to me that's like buys two
> solid gold cigar cutters (g).
>
> 73 k3hrn
> Thom,EIEIO
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John Huggins

K2 good for exposing kids to electronics?

In reply to this post by Jesse

Both eh? Well not yet anyways. However, you have a good point about
winding toroids and other elements of building a kit.

I loved building Heathkits and know I can do this. but more importantly,
this is an opportunity to do this with my 12 year old son.

He needs to know that squeezing a coil changes things and this is one
fine opportunity to expose him don't you think?

Obviously I would be building the kit, but he could help.

Jesse Justiss wrote:

>Both,
>
> I wouldn't miss winding toroid's and aligning
>filters, not to mention real soldering. Then seeing
>how close you can get WWV. The internal battery and
>tuner is a blast on the porch with an all band doublet
>with 600 ohm feeders. 10 to 15 watts with that antenna
>does quite well at times. Then plug in the 100 watt
>lid and outboard tuner for not so good conditions. And
>it will still embarrass most other radios.
>
>Now to save some more for my K3.
>
>
>
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Michael B-6

Re: K2 good for exposing kids to electronics?

I would Let him build it. I am 11 and just finished a k1 with no help
except for a simple mistake on the alignment process it is a 4 band K1
with a tuner

On 8/10/07, John Huggins <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Both eh? Well not yet anyways. However, you have a good point about
> winding toroids and other elements of building a kit.
>
> I loved building Heathkits and know I can do this. but more importantly,
> this is an opportunity to do this with my 12 year old son.
>
> He needs to know that squeezing a coil changes things and this is one
> fine opportunity to expose him don't you think?
>
> Obviously I would be building the kit, but he could help.
>
> Jesse Justiss wrote:
>
> >Both,
> >
> > I wouldn't miss winding toroid's and aligning
> >filters, not to mention real soldering. Then seeing
> >how close you can get WWV. The internal battery and
> >tuner is a blast on the porch with an all band doublet
> >with 600 ohm feeders. 10 to 15 watts with that antenna
> >does quite well at times. Then plug in the 100 watt
> >lid and outboard tuner for not so good conditions. And
> >it will still embarrass most other radios.
> >
> >Now to save some more for my K3.
> >
> >
> >
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