K2 auto-detect feature
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I'm thinking about using the K2 auto-detect keying feature to allow me to use
the K2's internal keyer and also connect a bug and computer keying interface to the K2. I'm wondering whether I'm likely to have a problem with spurious long dashes when using my paddle. I tend to send between 30-40 wpm. Any experience on this issue? -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Vic and others that may be wondering on this. I use auto-detect with a hand
key and paddles on the same line. The two diodes are mounted under my paddles. I have never had a spurious long dash or any other problem with the paddles, but I have noticed that if the contact on the hand key gets a little dirty, occasionally the hand key will cause alternating dots/dashes to be sent. Not sure if this is a diode anomaly or something else. Cleaning the contacts on the handkey by burnishing with a piece of heavy paper has always seemed to fix the problem when it occurs. Jim Sheldon - W0EB K2 #4338 > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Vic Rosenthal > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 4:59 PM > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: [Elecraft] K2 auto-detect feature > > > I'm thinking about using the K2 auto-detect keying feature to > allow me to use > the K2's internal keyer and also connect a bug and computer > keying interface to > the K2. I'm wondering whether I'm likely to have a problem > with spurious long > dashes when using my paddle. I tend to send between 30-40 > wpm. Any experience > on this issue? > > -- > 73, > Vic, K2VCO > Fresno CA > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.779 / Virus Database: 526 - Release Date: 10/19/2004 > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.779 / Virus Database: 526 - Release Date: 10/19/2004 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Vic K2VCO
Vic:
I do it all the time and have (so far) seen nothing to indicate such a problem. At 04:59 PM 10/20/04, Vic Rosenthal wrote: >I'm thinking about using the K2 auto-detect keying feature to allow me to >use the K2's internal keyer and also connect a bug and computer keying >interface to the K2. I'm wondering whether I'm likely to have a problem >with spurious long dashes when using my paddle. I tend to send between >30-40 wpm. Any experience on this issue? 73, Tom N0SS _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I've never had such a problem, even after 36 hours contesting. Have a look
to the diodes and the connections ! 73 Luc/F6HJO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Hammond" <[hidden email]> To: "Vic Rosenthal" <[hidden email]>; "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 auto-detect feature > Vic: > > I do it all the time and have (so far) seen nothing to indicate such a problem. > > At 04:59 PM 10/20/04, Vic Rosenthal wrote: > >I'm thinking about using the K2 auto-detect keying feature to allow me to > >use the K2's internal keyer and also connect a bug and computer keying > >interface to the K2. I'm wondering whether I'm likely to have a problem > >with spurious long dashes when using my paddle. I tend to send between > >30-40 wpm. Any experience on this issue? > > 73, > > Tom N0SS > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hi Vic - I use the auto-detect keying with my paddle and computer both
hooked up at the same time. My computer "interface" is a simple one transistor switch. It works perfectly and as far as I can tell I don't get any "spurious long dashes" up to about 33 wpm which is my limit. Note that I filed the "as far as I can tell" disclaimer - have not looked at it on a scope nor have I had any reports - but then - I use it mostly in contesting and in the heat of battle it's not likely that anyone is going to take the time to comment! It is so simple, give it a try and see what you get. Have fun. 73 es gud dx --don n4hh K2/100 #2028, etc, etc. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vic Rosenthal" <[hidden email]> Subject: [Elecraft] K2 auto-detect feature <snip> > I'm thinking about using the K2 auto-detect keying >feature to allow me to use I'm wondering whether I'm >likely to have a problem with spurious long > dashes when using my paddle. > -- > 73, > Vic, K2VCO > Fresno CA > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.778 / Virus Database: 525 - Release Date: 10/15/04 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Vic I built a little keying adapter in a small can to do this. It has two jacks, one for my paddles and one for the keying lead from my TR Log laptop. The laptop jack in mono, and the paddles jack is stereo. The output is a three wire lead to the key jack in the K2. Inside the can are the two diodes that steer the single keyline from the laptop to both the dit and dah lines to the K2. The paddles connect direct to the dit and dah lines. It's been working just fine at any speed I can handle. Go for it. Good luck and 73 Bob N6WG _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hi guys,
This discussion reminds me of something I've been wanting to for a while. I don't use the internal keyer in the K2 but prefer my own keyer and I'd like to parallel my computer/cw keyboard with it. What kind of circuit would this require or could I just parallel the lines together? Thanks, Lou - W6UR K2/100 #3578 Bob Tellefsen wrote: >Vic >I built a little keying adapter in a small can to do this. >It has two jacks, one for my paddles and one for the >keying lead from my TR Log laptop. The laptop jack in mono, >and the paddles jack is stereo. The output is >a three wire lead to the key jack in the K2. > >Inside the can are the two diodes that steer the single >keyline from the laptop to both the dit and dah lines >to the K2. The paddles connect direct to the dit and dah >lines. It's been working just fine at any speed I can handle. > > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Lou
If both your keyer and your keyboard produce simple closures to ground for keying, you should be able to connect them in parallel. If there is a problem due to something in the output circuits, you could just diode OR them and do fine. Good luck and 73 Bob N6WG _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Just parallel them together, no problem.
de Joe, aa4nn > Hi guys, > > This discussion reminds me of something I've been wanting to for a > while. I don't use the internal keyer in the K2 but prefer my > own keyer and I'd like to parallel my computer/cw keyboard with it. What > kind of circuit would this require or could I just parallel > the lines together? > > Thanks, > > Lou - W6UR > K2/100 #3578 > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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At 10/21/2004 12:38 PM, Lou Roux wrote:
>Hi guys, > >This discussion reminds me of something I've been wanting to for a while. >I don't use the internal keyer in the K2 but prefer my >own keyer and I'd like to parallel my computer/cw keyboard with it. What >kind of circuit would this require or could I just parallel >the lines together? I don't use the internal keyer in either of the K2's either, so I parallel the lines together. I use phono jack cables for most everything and use a "Y" phone cable to join the memory keyer and the PC keying lines. Works great. 73 Hank K8DD _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Lou,
It is likely that you can simply parallel the devices (connect to the K2 DOT input) and set the K2 for 'INP Hand', as long as one device does not interfere with any of the others. Before attempting it, do check for the presence of voltage from each device to be connected. If you have any voltage present, you may have to make some alterations. Ideally you should have an open collector transistor (or relay points) driving the output line (this is the case on most keyers or computer interfaces, but it is worthwhile checking to be certain). You should be able to connect from 4 to 10 open collector devices in parallel without a problem - the actual number will depend on the driving transistor in each device and just how much leakage current they have (collectively). 73, Don W3FPR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lou Roux" <[hidden email]> To: "Bob Tellefsen" <[hidden email]> Cc: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 auto-detect feature > Hi guys, > > This discussion reminds me of something I've been wanting to for a while. > I don't use the internal keyer in the K2 but prefer my > own keyer and I'd like to parallel my computer/cw keyboard with it. What > kind of circuit would this require or could I just parallel > the lines together? > > Thanks, > > Lou - W6UR > K2/100 #3578 > > > > Bob Tellefsen wrote: > >>Vic >>I built a little keying adapter in a small can to do this. >>It has two jacks, one for my paddles and one for the >>keying lead from my TR Log laptop. The laptop jack in mono, and the >>paddles jack is stereo. The output is >>a three wire lead to the key jack in the K2. >> >>Inside the can are the two diodes that steer the single >>keyline from the laptop to both the dit and dah lines >>to the K2. The paddles connect direct to the dit and dah >>lines. It's been working just fine at any speed I can handle. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: > http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hi Lou:
W6UR wrote: >This discussion reminds me of something I've been wanting to for a while. > >I don't use the internal keyer in the K2 but prefer my own keyer and I'd >like to parallel my computer/cw keyboard with it. > >What kind of circuit would this require or could I just parallel >the lines together? Easiest(!) way to do it is to set MENU | INP | HAND in the K2. Then get a 3-way RCA jack (female), and connect the outputs of your PC and keyer to it. Finally, a jumper cable with an RCA on one end (to the 3-way jack) and a 1/8" (3.5mm) STEREO plug with ground from the jumper cable to the sleeve of the plug and the hot side of the jumper cable connected to the TIP of the plug. Nuthin' connected to the ring of the plug. Done! 73, Tom N0SS _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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