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I have had an idea. (Gasp, shock, horror!) I'm currently building up the KPA100 for my K2 and am becoming inceasingly frustrated at my own inability to locate component sites on the board. If somebody has the expertise, time and willingness, a great tool would be a web site where you could simply type in U1, R12, C34 or whatever and obtain an image of the board with a dot, crosshair or whatever identifying the component's location. When I've stopped soldering, I may look at it myself but I'd have to learn the skills. Web page design is not my forte. And I hate Java. But that's another story ;-) Comments? Paul M3CRQ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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The acrobat reader from adobe will locate some of the components, if you
go to the board drawing page. It won't find them all though. Perhaps a tool to convert the board drawing such that all text is locatable would be easier than a whole new gui program. On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 12:03 pm, Paul Bartlett wrote: > Hi All, > > I have had an idea. (Gasp, shock, horror!) > > I'm currently building up the KPA100 for my K2 and am becoming > inceasingly frustrated at my own inability to locate component sites on > the board. > > If somebody has the expertise, time and willingness, a great tool would > be a web site where you could simply type in U1, R12, C34 or whatever > and obtain an image of the board with a dot, crosshair or whatever > identifying the component's location. > > When I've stopped soldering, I may look at it myself but I'd have to > learn the skills. Web page design is not my forte. > > And I hate Java. But that's another story ;-) > > Comments? > > Paul M3CRQ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: > http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> I'm currently building up the KPA100 for my K2 and am becoming
> inceasingly frustrated at my own inability to locate component sites on > the board. > > If somebody has the expertise, time and willingness, a great tool would > be a web site where you could simply type in U1, R12, C34 or whatever > and obtain an image of the board with a dot, crosshair or whatever > identifying the component's location. As an alternative, you can download the manual in PDF format from the Elecraft website. KPA100 man rev C.pdf is the current version. You can then do a search using Acrobat and it will find the part for you. For example, display the page in the manual with the component layout (page 66) and then use the Edit -> Find command in Acrobat and type in what you are looking for, say C12. The cursor will jump to C12 and highlight it for you on the parts placement drawing. It may not find the parts on the bottom of the board (Q4, for example) but there are only a few parts there and its failure is a clue that the part is on the bottom. 73, Lyle KK7P _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Oct 2, 2004, at 12:02 PM, Paul Bartlett wrote: > If somebody has the expertise, time and willingness, a great tool > would be a web site where you could simply type in U1, R12, C34 or > whatever and obtain an image of the board with a dot, crosshair or > whatever identifying the component's location. > > When I've stopped soldering, I may look at it myself but I'd have to > learn the skills. Web page design is not my forte. > > And I hate Java. But that's another story ;-) The easy way to do this would be to take a scan of the board and superimpose the labels in text over the picture. It is important that the labels be text. You can then convert the entire image, pict and text to a PDF. You then do a text search to find the desired label. No programming needed! And no, I don't have the time to do that now. I am _way_ too busy doing other things... - Jack Brindle, WA4FIB ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------- _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Your wish is already fulfilled, Paul.
Go to the Elecraft WEB site and download the PDF file of the manual. Open it in Adobe Acrobat reader (free from www.adobe.com), go to the PCB layout page and do a "search" in Acrobat for the reference designator you want. You'll see the part ref des highlighted as it finds it. You can find the parts on the schematics the same way. My only complaint is that sometimes it's hard to see the highlighted Ref Des! So I repeat two searches for different parts until I see the highlight come on. Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- Hi All, I have had an idea. (Gasp, shock, horror!) I'm currently building up the KPA100 for my K2 and am becoming inceasingly frustrated at my own inability to locate component sites on the board. If somebody has the expertise, time and willingness, a great tool would be a web site where you could simply type in U1, R12, C34 or whatever and obtain an image of the board with a dot, crosshair or whatever identifying the component's location. When I've stopped soldering, I may look at it myself but I'd have to learn the skills. Web page design is not my forte. And I hate Java. But that's another story ;-) Comments? Paul M3CRQ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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There all there, Paul. Just take your time and you'll find them. From
your call sign you are licensed for 10W at the moment, so your K2 without its KPA100 should suffice for the time being. Good luck with your Intermediate and Full licence examinations. 73 de David M3CRQ de G4DMP In a recent message, Paul Bartlett <[hidden email]> said.... >I'm currently building up the KPA100 for my K2 and am becoming >inceasingly frustrated at my own inability to locate component sites on >the board. > >Comments? > >Paul M3CRQ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: K2 et al, Ref Designator Search
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Hi Paul,
I agree this would be a nice feature. The pdf file for the K2 manual can be searched for a particular reference designator. This is very handy for locating a part reference in the text of the assembly instructions or on the schematic drawings. It can locate a lot of parts on the assembly drawings too(Appendix F), but not all of them. Perhaps it would be possible to update the pdf file to include all the reference designators, since the basic frame work for searching is already there. 73/ Bob - W5BIG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Bartlett" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 2:02 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K2 et al > Hi All, > > I have had an idea. (Gasp, shock, horror!) > > I'm currently building up the KPA100 for my K2 and am becoming inceasingly > frustrated at my own inability to locate component sites on the board. > > If somebody has the expertise, time and willingness, a great tool would be a > web site where you could simply type in U1, R12, C34 or whatever and obtain > an image of the board with a dot, crosshair or whatever identifying the > component's location. > > When I've stopped soldering, I may look at it myself but I'd have to learn > the skills. Web page design is not my forte. > > And I hate Java. But that's another story ;-) > > Comments? > > Paul M3CRQ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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How about a picture of the bord with locatorsquears on the board.
Then lets say that c34 should be located at a5 and r10 at e10 or something like that. It will be like finding a city on the map! 73 to all de LA1PHA Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Bartlett" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 9:02 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K2 et al > Hi All, > > I have had an idea. (Gasp, shock, horror!) > > I'm currently building up the KPA100 for my K2 and am becoming inceasingly > frustrated at my own inability to locate component sites on the board. > > If somebody has the expertise, time and willingness, a great tool would be a > web site where you could simply type in U1, R12, C34 or whatever and obtain > an image of the board with a dot, crosshair or whatever identifying the > component's location. > > When I've stopped soldering, I may look at it myself but I'd have to learn > the skills. Web page design is not my forte. > > And I hate Java. But that's another story ;-) > > Comments? > > Paul M3CRQ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: K2 et al, Ref Designator Search
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W5BIG wrote:
>I agree this would be a nice feature. The pdf file for the K2 manual can >be searched for a particular reference designator. This is very handy for >locating a part reference in the text of the assembly instructions or on >the schematic drawings. It can locate a lot of parts on the assembly >drawings too(Appendix F), but not all of them. > >Perhaps it would be possible to update the pdf file to include all the >reference designators, since the basic frame work for searching is already >there. > > >Paul Bartlett, M3CRQ, wrote: > > > >I'm currently building up the KPA100 for my K2 and am becoming > >inceasingly frustrated at my own inability to locate component > >sites on the board. > > > >If somebody has the expertise, time and willingness, a great > >tool would be a web site where you could simply type in U1, R12, > >C34 or whatever and obtain an image of the board with a dot, > >crosshair or whatever identifying the component's location. > > > >When I've stopped soldering, I may look at it myself but I'd > >have to learn the skills. Web page design is not my forte. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Paul,
Are you using an illuminated magnifier of at least 3X power? Also, do you have a supplemental hand magnifier that you could place behind the illuminated bench glass and have double the magnification? Makes it much easier to see the boards and the notations. Also, be sure to work in the order of the instructions, they are grouped by areas, and refer to the manual illustrations and those on the Elecraft web site. 72, Stuart K5KVH _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I've found a trick to locate top-side parts in K2 Appendix F that are
labeled but not findable in Adobe Reader (formerly called Acrobat Reader). It turns out that the unsearchable parts are the ones that are labeled vertically (i.e., bottom to top). The searchable top-side parts have labels that are oriented normally (i.e., left-to-right) when looking at the board in standard orientation. To find the unsearchable topside parts in Adobe Reader: 1. Rotate the page clockwise 90 degrees 2. Select the text tool (capital T). 3. Click and drag across the page, or just the area of interest. (You will only be able to select vertical swaths.) 4. All searchable part numbers will now be highlighted (black on my screen) 5. All labeled but unsearchable parts now stand out visually and are easy to find. Leigh WA5ZNU _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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