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K2 in 19inch Rack?

Phil Westover
I have mounted all sorts of amateur gear into 19" panels.  While I have yet mounted a K2 in a panel, I have the intent to do so, and it will be a piece of cake.  My method may not be a standard approach, it does meet my requirements:

1.  I don't have to alter the equipment in any way, and if it is removed later, there would be no indication that it's ever been rack mounted.  (I do this to maintain the value of the gear.)
2.  I can do the job without any significant tools other than a saber saw with a metal cutting blade, a good metal file and a good electric drill (with bits).  (A person just needs to be careful and take it slow.)
3.  The only parts that are necessary to do this is the panel itself (which I have access to good heavy gauge aluminum), a couple of modified framing brackets I found at Home Depot, a D-ring strap, some protective padding (foam), and a few nuts, bolts and trim rings for the screws.

If anyone is interested in seeing how this looks from the front, please send me an email.  If someone wants to do this and see the panel's backside (where the mounting actually occurs), I can take a couple of digital photos to send out.

73,
Phil  WA7URV
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19inch Racks - somewhat OT

Tom Skinner-3
Good Morning Group,

I just have share this.

Before I retired from the Navy, I was serving with the Joint Chiefs of
Staff, as one of the assistants to the communications guru, one
particularily gruff vice admiral who I'm pretty sure coined the phrase
"lead, follow or get the hell out of the way", and liked to continually stir
whatever pot he happened to be in charge of at the time.

For whatever reason, he called me into his office, one day, and asked me if
the 19 inch rack panel was a standard or a tradition.  I had long since
learned not to ask him why he was curious, I just charged off to find out.

I uncovered countless references to 19" racks, and a lot of things which
specified it, but failed to find out anything about its genisus.  Since
failure was not an option, I reported that it had something to do with the
width of hatches on early submarines, but an original order - if one existed
- was lost in the fog of the past.  In any event, the 19 inch  "standard"
was so deeply ingrained in the military (and a good bit of civilian industry
as well) that it might as well have come down as the 11th commandment.

He grudently accepted my "findings", but continued to press the issue,
claiming that if services were going to continue to support 19" racks, there
needed to be a mil spec actually in place.  Thankfully I retired before
being thrown into that briar patch.

I have wondered, over the years, if I missed anything.  Does anyone REALLY
know whether or not the 19 inch is a "standard" or a tradition.

73,

Tom, KJ3D (apparently with too-little-else-to-worry-about-today)


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RE: 19inch Racks - somewhat OT

Craig Rairdin
>From Wikipedia (www.wikipedia.org) the repository of all knowledge:

"A 19-inch rack is a standardized (EIA 310-D, IEC 60297 and DIN 41494 SC48D)
system for mounting various electronic modules in a "stack", or rack, 19
inches (482.6 mm) wide. Equipment designed to be placed in a rack is
typically described as rack-mount, a rack mounted system, a rack mount
chassis, subrack, or occasionally, simply shelf. The slang expression for a
subrack (generally 1U height) is "pizza box" due to the similarity in size
and shape.

"Because of their origin as mounting systems for railroad signaling relays,
they are still sometimes called relay racks, but the 19-inch rack format has
remained a constant while the technology that is mounted within it has
changed to completely different fields. This standard rack arrangement is
widely used throughout the telecommunication, computing, and entertainment
industries, as well as others."

Craig
NZ0R



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Tom Skinner
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 9:09 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] 19inch Racks - somewhat OT


Good Morning Group,

I just have share this.

Before I retired from the Navy, I was serving with the Joint Chiefs of
Staff, as one of the assistants to the communications guru, one
particularily gruff vice admiral who I'm pretty sure coined the phrase
"lead, follow or get the hell out of the way", and liked to continually stir
whatever pot he happened to be in charge of at the time.

For whatever reason, he called me into his office, one day, and asked me if
the 19 inch rack panel was a standard or a tradition.  I had long since
learned not to ask him why he was curious, I just charged off to find out.

I uncovered countless references to 19" racks, and a lot of things which
specified it, but failed to find out anything about its genisus.  Since
failure was not an option, I reported that it had something to do with the
width of hatches on early submarines, but an original order - if one existed
- was lost in the fog of the past.  In any event, the 19 inch  "standard"
was so deeply ingrained in the military (and a good bit of civilian industry
as well) that it might as well have come down as the 11th commandment.

He grudently accepted my "findings", but continued to press the issue,
claiming that if services were going to continue to support 19" racks, there
needed to be a mil spec actually in place.  Thankfully I retired before
being thrown into that briar patch.

I have wondered, over the years, if I missed anything.  Does anyone REALLY
know whether or not the 19 inch is a "standard" or a tradition.

73,

Tom, KJ3D (apparently with too-little-else-to-worry-about-today)


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RE: 19inch Racks - somewhat OT

Tom Skinner-3
Ah yes... The wonders of the internet.  Alas, it wasn't (largely) available
when I was assigned the research in the early '80s.  I had to go to actual
libraries and pore over actual books to find the answer - which I never did
find.  

I completely missed the reference to relay racks (although the phrase is
familiar).  I guess the genesis could have been trains, but since Adm Tuttle
was a submariner, I think he would have preferred the submarine as the point
of origin.

Thanks for the research es 73,  

Hope everyone has a joyous holiday (be it whatever) season.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Craig Rairdin [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 10:23 AM
To: 'Tom Skinner'; [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] 19inch Racks - somewhat OT

>From Wikipedia (www.wikipedia.org) the repository of all knowledge:

"A 19-inch rack is a standardized (EIA 310-D, IEC 60297 and DIN 41494 SC48D)
system for mounting various electronic modules in a "stack", or rack, 19
inches (482.6 mm) wide. Equipment designed to be placed in a rack is
typically described as rack-mount, a rack mounted system, a rack mount
chassis, subrack, or occasionally, simply shelf. The slang expression for a
subrack (generally 1U height) is "pizza box" due to the similarity in size
and shape.

"Because of their origin as mounting systems for railroad signaling relays,
they are still sometimes called relay racks, but the 19-inch rack format has
remained a constant while the technology that is mounted within it has
changed to completely different fields. This standard rack arrangement is
widely used throughout the telecommunication, computing, and entertainment
industries, as well as others."

Craig
NZ0R



-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Tom Skinner
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 9:09 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] 19inch Racks - somewhat OT


Good Morning Group,

I just have to share this.

Before I retired from the Navy, I was serving with the Joint Chiefs of
Staff, as one of the assistants to the communications guru, one
particularily gruff vice admiral who I'm pretty sure coined the phrase
"lead, follow or get the hell out of the way", and liked to continually stir
whatever pot he happened to be in charge of at the time.

For whatever reason, he called me into his office, one day, and asked me if
the 19 inch rack panel was a standard or a tradition.  I had long since
learned not to ask him why he was curious, I just charged off to find out.

I uncovered countless references to 19" racks, and a lot of things which
specified it, but failed to find out anything about its genisus.  Since
failure was not an option, I reported that it had something to do with the
width of hatches on early submarines, but an original order - if one existed
- was lost in the fog of the past.  In any event, the 19 inch  "standard"
was so deeply ingrained in the military (and a good bit of civilian industry
as well) that it might as well have come down as the 11th commandment.

He grudently accepted my "findings", but continued to press the issue,
claiming that if services were going to continue to support 19" racks, there
needed to be a mil spec actually in place.  Thankfully I retired before
being thrown into that briar patch.

I have wondered, over the years, if I missed anything.  Does anyone REALLY
know whether or not the 19 inch is a "standard" or a tradition.

73,

Tom, KJ3D (apparently with too-little-else-to-worry-about-today)


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Re: 19inch Racks - somewhat OT

David Cutter
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I'll stick my neck out and say it was a standard handed down by the British
Post Office, generally known as a Post Office rack, now known by all kinds
of "standards" numbers.

David
G3UNA


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Skinner" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 3:08 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] 19inch Racks - somewhat OT


> Good Morning Group,
>
> I just have share this.
>
> Before I retired from the Navy, I was serving with the Joint Chiefs of
> Staff, as one of the assistants to the communications guru, one
> particularily gruff vice admiral who I'm pretty sure coined the phrase
> "lead, follow or get the hell out of the way", and liked to continually
> stir
> whatever pot he happened to be in charge of at the time.
>
> For whatever reason, he called me into his office, one day, and asked me
> if
> the 19 inch rack panel was a standard or a tradition.  I had long since
> learned not to ask him why he was curious, I just charged off to find out.
>
> I uncovered countless references to 19" racks, and a lot of things which
> specified it, but failed to find out anything about its genisus.  Since
> failure was not an option, I reported that it had something to do with the
> width of hatches on early submarines, but an original order - if one
> existed
> - was lost in the fog of the past.  In any event, the 19 inch  "standard"
> was so deeply ingrained in the military (and a good bit of civilian
> industry
> as well) that it might as well have come down as the 11th commandment.
>
> He grudently accepted my "findings", but continued to press the issue,
> claiming that if services were going to continue to support 19" racks,
> there
> needed to be a mil spec actually in place.  Thankfully I retired before
> being thrown into that briar patch.
>
> I have wondered, over the years, if I missed anything.  Does anyone REALLY
> know whether or not the 19 inch is a "standard" or a tradition.
>
> 73,
>
> Tom, KJ3D (apparently with too-little-else-to-worry-about-today)
>
>
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