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K2 or K1?

Fred (FL)
K1 or K2 or Elecraft?

I built the K2 #54xx last spring.  Went very well,
soldering skills came back quickly - from my
previous ham Heathkit days ..........

One thing I would strongly recommend, although not
necessary - is to buy the PRE-BUILT TOROIDS, from the
"Toroid Man" Mike.  He's listed on the Elecraft
website.

He winds and tins almost perfect Toroids.  Each is
carefully marked in a small envelope - ready to
install.  I bet that one decision - made my K2
build a total success!  I recall - he had them
built and shipped to me, before I even had paid
him, or before my personal check had cleared
at his end.  He is very good to work with!

I toroid mis-install, 1 extra or short winding, on
a single toroid - can cause MUCH grief!

Good luck on your build decision.
Elecraft - you will not regret it!

Fred, FL
N3CSY


       
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RE: K2 or K1?

Ron D'Eau Claire-2
That's Mychael the toroidguy at: [hidden email]

He does great work. If you can't find the reference on the web site, just
drop him a line. You don't need to send him your cores. Just place your
order and the toroids will be on their way "toot sweet" (my apologies to our
French speaking members).

And the usual disclaimers do *not* apply. He's a friend of mine and, I
suspect, a LOT of other folks on the reflector here.

Ron AC7AC


-----Original Message-----
K1 or K2 or Elecraft?

I built the K2 #54xx last spring.  Went very well,
soldering skills came back quickly - from my
previous ham Heathkit days ..........

One thing I would strongly recommend, although not
necessary - is to buy the PRE-BUILT TOROIDS, from the
"Toroid Man" Mike.  He's listed on the Elecraft
website.

He winds and tins almost perfect Toroids.  Each is
carefully marked in a small envelope - ready to
install.  I bet that one decision - made my K2
build a total success!  I recall - he had them
built and shipped to me, before I even had paid
him, or before my personal check had cleared
at his end.  He is very good to work with!

I toroid mis-install, 1 extra or short winding, on
a single toroid - can cause MUCH grief!

Good luck on your build decision.
Elecraft - you will not regret it!

Fred, FL
N3CSY

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RE: K2 or K1?

Craig Rairdin
> One thing I would strongly recommend, although not
> necessary - is to buy the PRE-BUILT TOROIDS

I second this motion. Well at least the part that says it's not necessary.
:-)

I agree that if you're advanced in years and have trouble manipulating small
objects you might find winding torroids to be difficult or even painful. If
on the other hand you're reasonably dexterous you'll find that the torroids
are not that big of a deal. After winding LOTS of torroids for the K2, K1,
KX1 and their respective auto-tuners I can tell you that if you can thread a
needle with a 1/4" hole and reliably count to 25 you can wind your own
torroids. And if you can melt solder (that silver melty stuff that's like
really soft wire) on the end of your soldering iron (the pointy hot thing),
you can tin the leads.

Don't fear the torroids.

Craig
NZ0R

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RE: K2 or K1?

Ron D'Eau Claire-2
I agree, if we're talking about toroids and not those dreaded overheated
torroids <G>.

I wind my own but, as Craig says, some builders get frustrated doing the
turns count, stripping the enamel off properly, etc. For them Michael's
service is invaluable. For anyone who wants to shave an hour or so off of
the building time for a K2 and prefers to "drop in and solder" all the
parts, they are great.

Even though I don't normally use his toroids, I have seen several examples
of his work first-hand and it is definitely first-rate.

Ron AC7AC

-----Original Message-----

> One thing I would strongly recommend, although not
> necessary - is to buy the PRE-BUILT TOROIDS

I second this motion. Well at least the part that says it's not necessary.
:-)

I agree that if you're advanced in years and have trouble manipulating small
objects you might find winding torroids to be difficult or even painful. If
on the other hand you're reasonably dexterous you'll find that the torroids
are not that big of a deal. After winding LOTS of torroids for the K2, K1,
KX1 and their respective auto-tuners I can tell you that if you can thread a
needle with a 1/4" hole and reliably count to 25 you can wind your own
torroids. And if you can melt solder (that silver melty stuff that's like
really soft wire) on the end of your soldering iron (the pointy hot thing),
you can tin the leads.

Don't fear the torroids.

Craig
NZ0R


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Re: K2 or K1?

dave.wilburn
I wound my own on the K2 and KSB2, and purchased them for the KAT100 and
KPA100.  Mychal provided great service and excellent products.  I will
likely continue both traits.  I will make my own on small projects, and
purchase them on larger projects.

David Wilburn
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K4DGW
K2 #5982


Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

> I agree, if we're talking about toroids and not those dreaded overheated
> torroids <G>.
>
> I wind my own but, as Craig says, some builders get frustrated doing the
> turns count, stripping the enamel off properly, etc. For them Michael's
> service is invaluable. For anyone who wants to shave an hour or so off of
> the building time for a K2 and prefers to "drop in and solder" all the
> parts, they are great.
>
> Even though I don't normally use his toroids, I have seen several examples
> of his work first-hand and it is definitely first-rate.
>
> Ron AC7AC
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>> One thing I would strongly recommend, although not
>> necessary - is to buy the PRE-BUILT TOROIDS
>
> I second this motion. Well at least the part that says it's not necessary.
> :-)
>
> I agree that if you're advanced in years and have trouble manipulating small
> objects you might find winding torroids to be difficult or even painful. If
> on the other hand you're reasonably dexterous you'll find that the torroids
> are not that big of a deal. After winding LOTS of torroids for the K2, K1,
> KX1 and their respective auto-tuners I can tell you that if you can thread a
> needle with a 1/4" hole and reliably count to 25 you can wind your own
> torroids. And if you can melt solder (that silver melty stuff that's like
> really soft wire) on the end of your soldering iron (the pointy hot thing),
> you can tin the leads.
>
> Don't fear the torroids.
>
> Craig
> NZ0R
>
>
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RE: K2 or K1?

Darwin, Keith
Toroids - to wind or buy.

Either approach is absolute fine.  They are apparently very windable by
the average bear.  In my case, I tried to wind one.  It was very ugly
and no fun.

Mychael's work is very nice.  The toroids look good, evenly spaced and
nicely stripped and tinned.  For me there is no other way to build an
Elecraft.  I've done pre-wound toroids on all my kits and wouldn't have
it any other way.

I also went with the rework eliminators (which have received a lot of
positive and negative press) and was very happy with that choice.

- Keith N1AS -
- K2 5411.ssb.100 -
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