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K2 sidetone improvement

Sverre Holm-2
I recently had a chance to implement the improved sidetone filter by TF3MA
(http://www.raunvis.hi.is/~matti/TF3MA/sidetone_tf3ma.html). This was
inspired by the experience of KT5X in November
(http://www.ac6rm.net/mailarchive/html/elecraft-list/2006-11/msg00456.html).

This mod really works wonders with the sidetone quality of the K2, and makes
it much more like actually received high quality CW. It is probably the mod
which has made the most immediate audible difference in my K2 of all the
mods that I have made over the years - and I have made many!

It is also really very simple to do. The explanation is that it is a better
engineering solution to harmonic filtering than the present filter, and that
applies even in comparison to the improved filter in the serial no 3000+
K2's.


73

Sverre
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I changed K2 R98 to 1K - not good?

Darwin, Keith
My K2/100 shows a lot of variation in TX output, esp. on 40 meters.  I'll set it for 50 watts and the power will toggle up and down by 10's of watts.  Time to change R98.
 
Checking old posts, I see that values of 1.1 KOhm seem to be good,  I have a 1K resistor so I put that in.  Put the rig back together and ...
 
Max output on 40 meters is about 3 watts.  It is lower below and above 40 and on 20 or above there is no output.  Hmmm, did I do bad?
 
My next step will be to parallel another R with R98 so I can drop the resistance and see if I regain some power.
 
Sheesh, and this is on the eve of SKN too.  What a bad time for my rig to be down.
 
- Keith N1AS -
- K2 5411.ssb.100 -
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RE: I changed K2 R98 to 1K - not good?

Don Wilhelm-3
Kieth,

The proper procedure is to temporarily use a pot in place of R98 to
determine the maximum value your K2 can tolerate without loss of power
(especially on 10 meters).  Then measure the pot and replace R98 with the
next lower standard value.

The internal gain of each K2 is a bit different, so the proper value must be
determined emperically for each K2.

73,
Don W3FPR

> -----Original Message-----
>
> My K2/100 shows a lot of variation in TX output, esp. on 40
> meters.  I'll set it for 50 watts and the power will toggle up
> and down by 10's of watts.  Time to change R98.
>
> Checking old posts, I see that values of 1.1 KOhm seem to be
> good,  I have a 1K resistor so I put that in.  Put the rig back
> together and ...
>
> Max output on 40 meters is about 3 watts.  It is lower below and
> above 40 and on 20 or above there is no output.  Hmmm, did I do bad?
>
> My next step will be to parallel another R with R98 so I can drop
> the resistance and see if I regain some power.
>
>
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Re: I changed K2 R98 to 1K - not good?

Don Ehrlich-2
In reply to this post by Darwin, Keith
I'll bet you find out that the 1 K you put in was actually some other value
.. or .. something happened you did not plan (cold solder joint?).  If the
value of 1K is too high for your particular K2/100 the output will not reach
full ratings on some bands but it will still be a lot higher than 0 or 1 !

Yep, use a pot or just patch in various fixed resistors like I did.  I also
tested the value of the fixed resistor I was inserting just to make sure it
was what I thought it was.

Don K7FJ

----- Original Message -----
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Subject: [Elecraft] I changed K2 R98 to 1K - not good?


My K2/100 shows a lot of variation in TX output, esp. on 40 meters.  I'll
set it for 50 watts and the power will toggle up and down by 10's of watts.
Time to change R98.

Checking old posts, I see that values of 1.1 KOhm seem to be good,  I have a
1K resistor so I put that in.  Put the rig back together and ...

Max output on 40 meters is about 3 watts.  It is lower below and above 40
and on 20 or above there is no output.  Hmmm, did I do bad?

My next step will be to parallel another R with R98 so I can drop the
resistance and see if I regain some power.

Sheesh, and this is on the eve of SKN too.  What a bad time for my rig to be
down.

- Keith N1AS -
- K2 5411.ssb.100 -
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RE: I changed K2 R98 to 1K - not good?

Darwin, Keith
Don, you are right on the money!
 
The resistor I put in was 10K, not 1K!  Ahhhggg!
 
I went back and tried a 1K.  Now i get very stable full output on all bands.  10 Meters is giving 95 watts into a dummy load.  That's plenty.
 
Now, back to special event station K1Y SKN operations ...
 
- Keith N1AS -
- k2 5411.ssb.100 -

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I'll bet you find out that the 1 K you put in was actually some other value
.. or .. something happened you did not plan (cold solder joint?).  If the


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Re: I changed K2 R98 to 1K - not good?

Don Ehrlich-2
Well,  I have had the experience!   Sometimes the orange band looks a lot
like a red band ... and I have seen 'brown' bands that were really a dark
red.  I let the smoke out of one of those once.

Don K7FJ
---------------------------------------

Don, you are right on the money!

The resistor I put in was 10K, not 1K!  Ahhhggg!

I went back and tried a 1K.  Now i get very stable full output on all bands.
10 Meters is giving 95 watts into a dummy load.  That's plenty.

Now, back to special event station K1Y SKN operations ...

- Keith N1AS -
- k2 5411.ssb.100 -

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From: Don [mailto:[hidden email]]


I'll bet you find out that the 1 K you put in was actually some other value
.. or .. something happened you did not plan (cold solder joint?).  If the


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Re: I changed K2 R98 to 1K - not good?

w6jd
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That's why I always check the value with an ohm meter if there is any ambiguity in reading the color code.

Doug
W6JD

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Don" <[hidden email]>

> Well, I have had the experience! Sometimes the orange band looks a lot
> like a red band ... and I have seen 'brown' bands that were really a dark
> red. I let the smoke out of one of those once.
>
> Don K7FJ
> ---------------------------------------
>
> Don, you are right on the money!
>
> The resistor I put in was 10K, not 1K! Ahhhggg!
>
> I went back and tried a 1K. Now i get very stable full output on all bands.
> 10 Meters is giving 95 watts into a dummy load. That's plenty.
>
> Now, back to special event station K1Y SKN operations ...
>
> - Keith N1AS -
> - k2 5411.ssb.100 -
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Don [mailto:[hidden email]]
>
>
> I'll bet you find out that the 1 K you put in was actually some other value
> .. or .. something happened you did not plan (cold solder joint?). If the
>
>
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RE: I changed K2 R98 to 1K - not good?

Darwin, Keith
But I DID check it with an ohmmeter.  I don't know the color codes so I
use the meter in cases like this.

I guess I need to learn that 9.9 KOhm is NOT the same as 0.99 KOhm :-)
The problem was I knew the part was a 1K even before I checked it.
Having already made up my mind that it was a 1K resistor, my brain
avoided confusion by ignoring the evidence.

Fortunately the fix was easy and the rig worked flawlessly for me
through SKN.

- Keith N1AS -
- K2 5411.ssb.100 -

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That's why I always check the value with an ohm meter if there is any
ambiguity in reading the color code.

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Don" <[hidden email]>

> Well, I have had the experience! Sometimes the orange band looks a lot

> like a red band ... and I have seen 'brown' bands that were really a
> dark red. I let the smoke out of one of those once.
>
> Don K7FJ
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