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K2 transmit limitations

jcjglt@lagoon.nc
I plan to buy, build and use a K2 and have one question : during the
setting of this transceiver is it possible to strictly put limits to the
frequencies which can be used like for exemple limit strictly the 17m
band to 18,068 to 18,168 as in some countries a transceiver will not be
authorized if it can transmit outside of the authorized frequencies ?

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K2 transmit limitations

jcjglt@lagoon.nc
I plan to buy, build and use a K2 and have one question : during the
setting of this transceiver is it possible to strictly put limits to the
frequencies which can be used like for exemple limit strictly the 17m
band to 18,068 to 18,168 as in some countries a transceiver will not be
authorized if it can transmit outside of the authorized frequencies ?
Best 73s, Pierre - FK8IH
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Re: K2 transmit limitations

Ingo Meyer, DK3RED-2
Bonjour Pierre,

> I plan to buy, build and use a K2 and have one question : during the setting of this
> transceiver is it possible to strictly put limits to the frequencies which can be used
> like for exemple limit strictly the 17m band to 18,068 to 18,168 as in some countries a
> transceiver will not be authorized if it can transmit outside of the authorized frequencies ?

Yes, it is possible with a K2. But I don't know any reason why a ham radio operator should
send outside the frequencies that are reserved for us.

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Re: K2 transmit limitations

David Woolley (E.L)
I don't believe there is any ability to frequency restrict the K2.  It's
essentially a bag of components, and  most countries allow licensed
amateurs to home construct from components, and applying hard limits in
such cases would be difficult.

On 09/08/2020 08:29, Ingo Meyer, DK3RED wrote:
> Yes, it is possible with a K2. But I don't know any reason why a ham
> radio operator should send outside the frequencies that are reserved for
> us.

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Re: K2 transmit limitations (correction)

Ingo Meyer, DK3RED-2
In reply to this post by jcjglt@lagoon.nc
Bonjour Pierre,

David put the finger on the right point, because my answer was not complete. Thank you!

> I plan to buy, build and use a K2 and have one question : during the setting of this
> transceiver is it possible to strictly put limits to the frequencies which can be used
> like for exemple limit strictly the 17m band to 18,068 to 18,168 as in some countries a
> transceiver will not be authorized if it can transmit outside of the authorized frequencies ?

You put two question in your mail. So here are both answers.

No, it is not possible to restrict the K2 transmitting frequence during the building
process, neither by hardware nor by software.

And yes, it is possible to transmit with a K2 outside the ham radio bands all times.

But I don't know any reason why a ham radio operator should send outside the frequencies
that are reserved for us. And to restrict the frequence area in a ham radio band makes
also no sence to me, if you are a ham radio operator.

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Re: K2 transmit limitations

jcjglt@lagoon.nc
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Hi all,

When raising this question I did not plan to transmit outside of the Ham
bands but only to import a K2 in a country where the authorities do not
allow the use of a transceiver which can transmit outside of the Ham
bands. Yes such countries still exist and they have a right to be
strict. I got an answer from a EA... who had the same problem in Spain
and Elecraft factory set for him the I/O chip of his kit.

73 Pierre - FK8IH

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Re: K2 transmit limitations

pa0pje


On 10-08-2020 at 22:35 [hidden email] wrote:
> and they have a right to be strict.

Sorry Pierre, "they" don't... Not for radio amateurs.

Professional use like land, sea and air maybe yes.
CB certainly.

Amateurs have a license to live up to. Government may restrict
commercial amateur gear to be restricted when it leaves the factory but
if a licensed amateur hampers this for the sake of having special
functions they should be able to do so without rendering the radio
illegal. A K2 is not leaving the factory as a complete unit but as a
bunch of parts that can be put together by qualified users. Spain as a
country should in that case be to blame, not Elecraft be forced to make
adaptions to the kit. As should of course Nouvelle Caledonie.


73,
Peter - PA0PJE


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Re: K2 transmit limitations

Phil Kane-2
On 8/11/2020 5:17 AM, Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE) wrote:

>> and they have a right to be strict.
>
> Sorry Pierre, "they" don't... Not for radio amateurs.

I am a legal professional in the communications regulatory field having
spent many decades on both the governmental side and the
private-industry side and in the past have written revised rules for
amateur operation for a small Region 1 country as well as rules for
licensing and siting for antenna towers in several jurisdictions here in
the United States.

Sorry, Peter, every Administration has not only the right but the
obligation to set whatever standards for their country.  The only way to
change that is to put pressure on that Administration to change through
whatever legal means are possible.

Radio amateurs do not have any special privilege to conduct themselves
except in conformance with whatever license and regulations the
Administration prescribes - right or wrong.

Some Administrations still license amateur operators to use a specific
transmitter at a specific location and under specific conditions.  Many
don't but apparently the New Caledonia's Administration that Pierre is
dealing with still does.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong - I'm saying that's what it is.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane  (Esq / P.E.)
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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