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I thought this topic was terminated. Personally I'm tired of reading about it.
Keith AG6AZ Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos On Jan 17, 2012, at 6:34 AM, "Mike" <[hidden email]> wrote: > I like what you said, and how you said it! > > 73, Mike NF4L > > On 1/16/2012 8:33 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: >>> Joe said it "smells" and I'm just really curious why. >> >> You misquote me ... I said that argument that remote operation was a >> necessary answer to HOAs/other antenna restrictions and the only way >> to get on the air did not pass the smell test. >> >> As far as I am concerned, remote operation changes the character of >> amateur radio from over the air "amateur radio" to "landline based >> commercial communication" at least in part. When the operator is not >> present at the station (transmitting/receiving site) the "radio" part >> of the communications path can become infinitesimal - nothing more >> than a hand-held link to the nearest access point. >> >> That eliminates everything that makes amateur radio unique. Taking >> that one step further ... if the mode is digital, one might as well >> be using keyboard chat on the internet. >> >> In my career as an amateur I've seen repeaters go from something >> built in the garage/shack to multi-site, statewide linked, trunked >> communications systems. I have watched packet radio go from a random >> network of individual stations to nothing more than the equivalent of >> wireless access points linked by commercial wired networks (internet). >> >> I don't want to see HF devolve to the point that "amateurs" will need >> to pay for membership in and access to a series of "mega stations" in >> northeast Maine, southern Florida, northwest Washington and southern >> California to have the best shot at DX ... or even worse Radio Arcla >> class facilities all over the world just to be able to "chat" with >> any amateur, anywhere without regard to propagation, local conditions >> and time of day. >> >> I've already seen evidence of individuals working a DX contest from >> KP2 or other locations in the Caribbean while setting at home in New >> York or Boston or San Francisco, etc. I'd rather *never* work a P5 >> than "work" someone operating a multi-band remote transmitter located >> on the roof of a PyongYang hotel (or cell-phone factory) with operators >> in Oakland, Atlanta, London, Berlin and Helsinki. >> >> Is remote technology "fun"? Is it an engineering challenge? Yes. >> Is it appropriate for amateur radio? Not in my book (even though >> that opinion may be contrary to my own bank account before long)! >> >> Remote operation/remote technology offers a huge opportunity for >> regulators and those commercial interests (primarily messaging >> and remote sensing companies) who would like to acquire amateur >> spectrum to argue that "amateur radio" can be accommodated entirely >> on-line rather than continue to occupy more than 15% of the spectrum >> below 30 MHz. >> >> 73, >> >> ... Joe, W4TV >> > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Friends After more than a year spent in making it work, I’ve been using my remote station since last September with huge success. For me it’s a natural solution, living in an apartment at the side of a huge granite mountain that blocks half of the globe. I never thought of it as an excuse, like it was mentioned here, but a great solution. My station is in my beach house, about 100km (80mi) away from home. There I have my Steppir and dipoles. Much has been said that ham radio has evolved into appliance operators. Well, in this time I´ve been fiddling with my station I’ve built kits, came to know my equipment really well, optimized my station. I learned the importance of sound construction and reliability. It’s been a long time since I´ve had so much fun. Propagation wise, my stations lies in the same area of my operating point, and I am OK with that. Maybe I wouldn’t feel confortable if it was too distant, maybe even in a different time zone, but I can’t judge that. However, some of the positions in this reflector really surprise me. Yes, for better or worse, ham radio has evolved a lot in the last decades. The ozone smell of smarks don't exist anymore, the glow of tubes are gone, Dxing has became a point and shoot game based on clusters, skimmers are scanning the bands to feed spots. Just look at recent spots confusing PJ4C and HK0NA to realize how many code illiterate are on the CW segments. Remote stations are a part of the change, and for me, a welcome one. I respect all opinions, but I sincerely don’t care if one is for or against it. It works for me, I am very OK with it, and – trying to go back to the list purpose– I look forward to having my K3/0 so I can replace the TS-480 that sits there with my wonderful K3. But maybe this discussion has driftet too off-topic. 73, Marcelo, PY1KN > I think we can safely say that operating a remote mountaintop station > from the comfort of one's retirement home is nothing but a pipe dream > for most of us. The extent of my own remote operations is likely to be > from the far flung regions of my house. I'd be willing to pay about > 150 bux for this added capability which, I guess, means it is bound to > remain a remote possibility. > > 73, > Drew > AF2Z > > On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 22:30:24 -0800, you wrote: > >>On 1/16/2012 9:38 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: >>> This hobby really needs fewer intolerant and narrow minded old men ... >> >>I've missed this thread, which has obviously gone on for quite a while. >>But I SURE DO AGREE with this statement, except that I would change one >>word -- This WORLD really needs . . . . >> >>I've operated from a Chicago city lot with wires and an S7 noise level, >>from a couple of west coast super stations, from a damn nice station in >>PJ4, and from my own station in Nor California that is getting to be >>pretty nice. I've run QRP in contests, and I've run legal power. In >>every situation I've had fun, but I've had the most fun in the stations >>I've built myself (with considerable help from friends). For a short >>time I had a lease on a mountain-top QTH that I hoped to develop, >>perhaps even remotely operated, but the realities of cost set in, and I >>gave up the lease. From experience, I can say that operating from a >>mountaintop can be good for another 10dB or more on the HF bands, and >>the noise levels are often quite low too. >> >>With all of this experience, I would be the LAST to begrudge a guy who >>lives in the city, or in a small place where antennas are limited and/or >>the nose is high, the opportunity to compete with a remote station he >>has built himself -- indeed, I would applaud him for it! Anyone who >>thinks it's easy should talk to some who has done it -- like K6VVA, a >>serious contester and expeditioner who has been working on developing >>his for nearly three years now. Remote control of a rig is a tiny >>fraction of the problem, although in a remote site you may also have to >>build the communications link (K6VVA did). There's also the matter of >>building a shack, building a power system, building an antenna farm (and >>it's seriously WINDY on mountain tops), building a switching system and >>a control system for it, even building a road to get to it and buying >>snow vehicles to get to it during contest season. >> >>As to cheating -- I include in that category a guy who starts working >>DXCC at a QTH on one coast, then moves 2,000 - 3,000 miles (CO and NC, >>or CA and NY), still within the US, and counts the QSOs he has made from >>both locations for ANY award, including DXCC. or operates at a QTH >>across the country to make a QSO that he adds to his award totals. >>Anyone who has operated from locations 2,000 miles apart KNOWS in his >>heart he's cheating, even if the stupid ARRL DXCC rules say it's OK. I >>didn't start over when I moved from WV to OH to IL, because the >>distances were short enough that it didn't change the difficulty of >>working any given country, but I DID when I moved to CA. >> >>Like the man said -- it's between you and your conscience. And mine is >>clean. >> >>73, Jim K9YC >>______________________________________________________________ > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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