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Great radio, just one minor problem, no SSB, no VOX response to yelling.. When
first I tried it very briefly (ages ago) it definitely worked. Since then I have only used CW .... So what could have gone wrong ??? I have always used the Elecraft Heil Pro Set and the phones work just fine. The mike is plugged into the adapter that came with the Pro Set. The latest software says the mike is still set to f.Pl, not to r.Pl. I can play with the gain, the compression etc but nothing happens when I yell. Antivox is set at 0; VOX gain makes no difference. Other settings seem perfectly OK and nothing changes if I play with them. So what have I done wrong ...... there must be something I missed. Oh well, there is always my Omni-V .....that has its own mike. John - G3JAG _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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The Elecraft Heil ProSet requires that "Bias" be turned on. For use on the
front panel, your mic setting should read "FP.L bIAS" - use the "REV" (has the red number 2 under it" to turn bias on. 73 -- Don N4HH K3 #83 -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of jac Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 4:29 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] K3 #107 Great radio, just one minor problem, no SSB, no VOX response to yelling.. When first I tried it very briefly (ages ago) it definitely worked. Since then I have only used CW .... So what could have gone wrong ??? I have always used the Elecraft Heil Pro Set and the phones work just fine. The mike is plugged into the adapter that came with the Pro Set. The latest software says the mike is still set to f.Pl, not to r.Pl. I can play with the gain, the compression etc but nothing happens when I yell. Antivox is set at 0; VOX gain makes no difference. Other settings seem perfectly OK and nothing changes if I play with them. So what have I done wrong ...... there must be something I missed. Oh well, there is always my Omni-V .....that has its own mike. John - G3JAG _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1476 - Release Date: 5/31/2008 12:25 PM _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I'm not sure that all Heil ProSets are the same here.
I know that the Proset K2 sold by Elecraft requires bias. However I wouldn't think other Heil Prosets that use the HC-4 and HC-5 element would require bias. Dick, K6KR -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Don Nesbitt Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 1:57 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 #107 The Elecraft Heil ProSet requires that "Bias" be turned on. For use on the front panel, your mic setting should read "FP.L bIAS" - use the "REV" (has the red number 2 under it" to turn bias on. 73 -- Don N4HH K3 #83 -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of jac Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 4:29 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] K3 #107 Great radio, just one minor problem, no SSB, no VOX response to yelling.. When first I tried it very briefly (ages ago) it definitely worked. Since then I have only used CW .... So what could have gone wrong ??? I have always used the Elecraft Heil Pro Set and the phones work just fine. The mike is plugged into the adapter that came with the Pro Set. The latest software says the mike is still set to f.Pl, not to r.Pl. I can play with the gain, the compression etc but nothing happens when I yell. Antivox is set at 0; VOX gain makes no difference. Other settings seem perfectly OK and nothing changes if I play with them. So what have I done wrong ...... there must be something I missed. Oh well, there is always my Omni-V .....that has its own mike. John - G3JAG _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1476 - Release Date: 5/31/2008 12:25 PM _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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All Heil ProSets are indeed NOT the same! The one specific to Elecraft used
(not sure if it is still being marketed or is still otherwise available - don't see it listed on the Elecraft site or on the Heil site) an "electret" element and mine is actually labeled on the side with "IC" indicating that it was actually for ICOM. The "dongle" provides the proper pinout for use on either my K2 (wired straight across - as for Kenwood) or my K3. As usual, YMMV Don N4HH -----Original Message----- From: Dick Dievendorff [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 5:19 PM To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 #107 I'm not sure that all Heil ProSets are the same here. I know that the Proset K2 sold by Elecraft requires bias. However I wouldn't think other Heil Prosets that use the HC-4 and HC-5 element would require bias. Dick, K6KR -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Don Nesbitt Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 1:57 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 #107 The Elecraft Heil ProSet requires that "Bias" be turned on. For use on the front panel, your mic setting should read "FP.L bIAS" - use the "REV" (has the red number 2 under it" to turn bias on. 73 -- Don N4HH K3 #83 -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of jac Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 4:29 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] K3 #107 Great radio, just one minor problem, no SSB, no VOX response to yelling.. When first I tried it very briefly (ages ago) it definitely worked. Since then I have only used CW .... So what could have gone wrong ??? I have always used the Elecraft Heil Pro Set and the phones work just fine. The mike is plugged into the adapter that came with the Pro Set. The latest software says the mike is still set to f.Pl, not to r.Pl. I can play with the gain, the compression etc but nothing happens when I yell. Antivox is set at 0; VOX gain makes no difference. Other settings seem perfectly OK and nothing changes if I play with them. So what have I done wrong ...... there must be something I missed. Oh well, there is always my Omni-V .....that has its own mike. John - G3JAG _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1476 - Release Date: 5/31/2008 12:25 PM _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1477 - Release Date: 6/1/2008 5:28 PM _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Geeze - I'll have to put my glasses on the next time I search. Took another
look and it is still listed for both the K2 and K3 at $150 on the Elecraft order page. See: http://www.elecraft.com/MD2/proset.htm -- Don N4HH -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Don Nesbitt Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 5:46 PM To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 #107 All Heil ProSets are indeed NOT the same! The one specific to Elecraft used (not sure if it is still being marketed or is still otherwise available - don't see it listed on the Elecraft site or on the Heil site) an "electret" element and mine is actually labeled on the side with "IC" indicating that it was actually for ICOM. The "dongle" provides the proper pinout for use on either my K2 (wired straight across - as for Kenwood) or my K3. As usual, YMMV Don N4HH -----Original Message----- From: Dick Dievendorff [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 5:19 PM To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 #107 I'm not sure that all Heil ProSets are the same here. I know that the Proset K2 sold by Elecraft requires bias. However I wouldn't think other Heil Prosets that use the HC-4 and HC-5 element would require bias. Dick, K6KR -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Don Nesbitt Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 1:57 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 #107 The Elecraft Heil ProSet requires that "Bias" be turned on. For use on the front panel, your mic setting should read "FP.L bIAS" - use the "REV" (has the red number 2 under it" to turn bias on. 73 -- Don N4HH K3 #83 -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of jac Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 4:29 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] K3 #107 Great radio, just one minor problem, no SSB, no VOX response to yelling.. When first I tried it very briefly (ages ago) it definitely worked. Since then I have only used CW .... So what could have gone wrong ??? I have always used the Elecraft Heil Pro Set and the phones work just fine. The mike is plugged into the adapter that came with the Pro Set. The latest software says the mike is still set to f.Pl, not to r.Pl. I can play with the gain, the compression etc but nothing happens when I yell. Antivox is set at 0; VOX gain makes no difference. Other settings seem perfectly OK and nothing changes if I play with them. So what have I done wrong ...... there must be something I missed. Oh well, there is always my Omni-V .....that has its own mike. John - G3JAG _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1476 - Release Date: 5/31/2008 12:25 PM _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1477 - Release Date: 6/1/2008 5:28 PM _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1477 - Release Date: 6/1/2008 5:28 PM _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Dick Dievendorff
On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 14:18:58 -0700, "Dick Dievendorff" <[hidden email]>
wrote: >I'm not sure that all Heil ProSets are the same here. > >I know that the Proset K2 sold by Elecraft requires bias. > >However I wouldn't think other Heil Prosets that use the HC-4 and HC-5 >element would require bias. > >Dick, K6KR > [snip] I have an older HEIL Proset Plus! I bought in the late 90's. It does not require bias, although using bias will not harm it. HEIL has a resistor in the mic to protect it from bias. The mic has an eight pin adapter for the Kenwood rigs, but I don't use it. you can just remove it and plug the mono mic plug into the mono mike jack in the back of the K3. You can also plug the phones into the rear panel using an adapter to reduce the size of the stereo plug. If you remove the cable adapter you will have use a foot switch for PTT when you don't want to use VOX. It works great. Thank you Elecraft for letting me keep my old headset mic :O) 73, Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" An excerpt from a letter written in 1755 from the Assembly to the Governor of Pennsylvania. Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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I am becoming very concerned about connecting my "Kenwood" original Goldline
(HC-5 and "Full-Range") and my full cover Heil headset (same vintage also wired Kenwood) with the HC-4 to my K3 (when I get it). Is the "standard" wiring connection for the mic on the K3 the same as the Kenwood? Do I need "bias"? What gets burned up if I get it wrong? Thanks es 73, de Jim KG0KP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Nesbitt" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 4:46 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 #107 > All Heil ProSets are indeed NOT the same! The one specific to Elecraft used > (not sure if it is still being marketed or is still otherwise available - > don't see it listed on the Elecraft site or on the Heil site) an "electret" > element and mine is actually labeled on the side with "IC" indicating that > it was actually for ICOM. The "dongle" provides the proper pinout for use > on either my K2 (wired straight across - as for Kenwood) or my K3. As > usual, YMMV Don N4HH > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> I am becoming very concerned about connecting my "Kenwood" original Goldline
> (HC-5 and "Full-Range") ... Don't be concerned. I use the Heil Goldline GM-5 with my K3. Mine came with a non-Kenwood radio adapter cable, so I made my own with an 8-pin Foster connector and an XLR connector. > Is the "standard" wiring connection for the mic on the K3 the same as the > Kenwood? The only signals the K3 uses with this mic are PTT, common and mic audio. These pins are consistent with Kenwood 8-pin mic wiring, such as on a TS-850S. The complete pinout used in the K3 is on the web site in the FAQ. > Do I need "bias"? No. Turn it off. > What gets burned up if I get it wrong? Nothing. You just get distorted and/or weak transmit audio. 73, Lyle KK7P _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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