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DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
Tom said,
[snip]
Although I just started using the K3, I really like the AGC system so
far. That's in contrast to other digital AGC systems I quickly learned
to *dislike*. Low band DXers or contesting people will really like the
"slope adjustment" feature.

73 Tom
[end snip]

Wow...coming from Tom, this is indeed HIGH PRAISE.

The kudos from well respected contesters, DXers, and Low Band
aficionados just keep piling up.  Such uniformity of accolades from
such well-respected and/or renown, elite ops is quite rare, perhaps
never before duplicated.  Glad I chose K3!

Congrats to Eric, Wayne, Lyle, et al.

de Doug KR2Q

PS  I think it is OUTSTANDING that when some criticism does show up,
rather than argue "it's not a bug, it's how it was designed," the
Elecraft folks actually listen and respond (within days, if not
sooner) with the fix.   Other than zero sun spots, these are great
days for ham radio.
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a wish for a balance control

Charly

As a guy with frequent ear problems, I wish rigs had a

balance control which puts more AF juice into one

side of the headphones compared to the other.

Age-ing hams  can wish....  73

Charles Harpole

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Re: a wish for a balance control

N4LQ-2
Lot's of headphones have individual volume controls. MFJ has a pair that
sounds good. Theirs has volume and tone contols.
http://www.mfjenterprises.com/Product.php?productid=MFJ-392B
For $25 they are hard to beat.
Steve Ellington
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Subject: [Elecraft] a wish for a balance control



As a guy with frequent ear problems, I wish rigs had a

balance control which puts more AF juice into one

side of the headphones compared to the other.

Age-ing hams  can wish....  73

Charles Harpole

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Re: a wish for a balance control

charles-70
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On Saturday 09 August 2008 14:11:56 Charles Harpole wrote:
> As a guy with frequent ear problems, I wish rigs had a
>
> balance control which puts more AF juice into one
>
> side of the headphones compared to the other.

Yes, I can identify with that problem Charles.
I find that I'm able to overcome it by tilting my head to one side, then,  
with practice the flow of juice can be equalised
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Re: a wish for a balance control

Jim Wiley-2
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Charles -


 I purchased a set of Radio Shack headphones a few years ago that had
separate level controls for each ear.  They were reasonably priced, very
comfortable, and sounded great.


You might want to have  a look at what they are offering today. Their
web site shows a  pair by Coby for only $11.00 that has independent
controls  R/S Cat Num 55010925.  


They also have another set that looks a bit better quality, and has a
volume control, but I can't tell if each side is independently
adjustable, for $13.00 .   Their Cat Num 55010865.   The usual
disclaimers apply.


- Jim, KL7CC



Charles Harpole wrote:

> As a guy with frequent ear problems, I wish rigs had a
>
> balance control which puts more AF juice into one
>
> side of the headphones compared to the other.
>
> Age-ing hams  can wish....  73
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> Charles Harpole
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N4LQ-2
At least those headphones work in "data" mode....Some of the more expensive
headphones are just analog!

Steve Ellington
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> -----Original Message-----
> Steve, N4LQ, wrote:
> Lot's of headphones have individual volume controls. MFJ has a pair that
> sounds good. Theirs has volume and tone contols.
> http://www.mfjenterprises.com/Product.php?productid=MFJ-392B
> For $25 they are hard to beat.
>
> ----------------------
>
> Oh, my word! Reading the ad I find this:
> "Near zero loss on signal transmission from the gold plated plug and
> cord."
>
> I've seen many uncomplimentary comments about MFJ over the years, most of
> which, IMHO, weren't really justified, but this starts to change my mind.
> Maybe the ad writer was being paid by the word but that statement is
> almost
> in the class of the cryogenically-treated power cords for audio amps.
>
> Clicking on the photo for a close up shows the Styrofoam dummy head
> wearing
> them with the phone marked "R" on his left ear. Oh well, he doesn't
> pretend
> to be anything but a dummy from what I can see.
>
> I wonder if the cord really is "gold plated" like the ad said?
>
> Ron AC7AC
>
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KBG Luxford
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I think that there was a QST article some years ago regarding an audio
filter/equaliser tailored to match one's hearing loss profile.  The
author claimed that it enabled him to hear his radio much more clearly.

My hearing is largely deficient in the higher frequencies due to army
weapons training in my youth and no doubt exacerbated by subsequent
industrial noise.  This is likely to be a problem that affects a good
proportion of list members.  Loss of the higher frequencies means that
we miss the word endings which convey a high proportion of the
intelligence we are trying to receive.  Maybe, just maybe, the want of
'good' audio on K3s is due to a wish to be able to hear more clearly?  
Maybe the article in QST to which I am referring would be a good way to go.

I will see if I can find it and post the details to the list.

73
Kevin
VK3DAP / ZL2DAP

Jim Wiley wrote:

> Charles -
>
>
> I purchased a set of Radio Shack headphones a few years ago that had
> separate level controls for each ear.  They were reasonably priced,
> very comfortable, and sounded great.
>
> You might want to have  a look at what they are offering today. Their
> web site shows a  pair by Coby for only $11.00 that has independent
> controls  R/S Cat Num 55010925.
>
> They also have another set that looks a bit better quality, and has a
> volume control, but I can't tell if each side is independently
> adjustable, for $13.00 .   Their Cat Num 55010865.   The usual
> disclaimers apply.
>
>
> - Jim, KL7CC
>
>
>
> Charles Harpole wrote:
>> As a guy with frequent ear problems, I wish rigs had a
>>
>> balance control which puts more AF juice into one
>>
>> side of the headphones compared to the other.
>>
>> Age-ing hams  can wish....  73
>>
>> Charles Harpole
>>
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KK7P
> I think that there was a QST article some years ago regarding an audio
> filter/equaliser tailored to match one's hearing loss profile.  The
> author claimed that it enabled him to hear his radio much more clearly.

This is part of the reason for the 8-band equalizer in the K3 receiver.
  YOu can tailor the audio response to match your situation.  What is
currently lacking is a way to adjust the relative levels of right and
left channel.

But, it is as they say, only a small matter of programming :-)

73,

Lyle KK7P

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N5GE
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:19:03 +1000, KBG Luxford <[hidden email]> wrote:

>I think that there was a QST article some years ago regarding an audio
>filter/equaliser tailored to match one's hearing loss profile.  The
>author claimed that it enabled him to hear his radio much more clearly.
>
>My hearing is largely deficient in the higher frequencies due to army
>weapons training in my youth and no doubt exacerbated by subsequent
>industrial noise.  This is likely to be a problem that affects a good
>proportion of list members.  Loss of the higher frequencies means that
>we miss the word endings which convey a high proportion of the
>intelligence we are trying to receive.  Maybe, just maybe, the want of
>'good' audio on K3s is due to a wish to be able to hear more clearly?  
>Maybe the article in QST to which I am referring would be a good way to go.
>
>I will see if I can find it and post the details to the list.
>
>73
>Kevin
>VK3DAP / ZL2DAP

[snip]

My CW operation statistics show above 90% CW operation.

I find that when working CW my hearing loss helps me if I set the CW pitch at
400 to 450 cycles.  In fact I had my audiologist adjust the fourth setting on my
hearing aids to a 500 cycle peak, so I don't have to remove them when working
CW.

With phone I set them on speech.

73,

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KBG Luxford
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I found the article.

Look at QST Jan 2005 p28, Hal Kennedy, N4GG, "An Audio Intelligibility
Enhancer".

I am waiting to get a round tuitt.

73
Kevin
VK3DAP / ZL2DAP

Jim Wiley wrote:

> Charles -
>
>
> I purchased a set of Radio Shack headphones a few years ago that had
> separate level controls for each ear.  They were reasonably priced,
> very comfortable, and sounded great.
>
> You might want to have  a look at what they are offering today. Their
> web site shows a  pair by Coby for only $11.00 that has independent
> controls  R/S Cat Num 55010925.
>
> They also have another set that looks a bit better quality, and has a
> volume control, but I can't tell if each side is independently
> adjustable, for $13.00 .   Their Cat Num 55010865.   The usual
> disclaimers apply.
>
>
> - Jim, KL7CC
>
>
>
> Charles Harpole wrote:
>> As a guy with frequent ear problems, I wish rigs had a
>>
>> balance control which puts more AF juice into one
>>
>> side of the headphones compared to the other.
>>
>> Age-ing hams  can wish....  73
>>
>> Charles Harpole
>>
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KBG Luxford
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Sorry for the bandwidth, but if you want a copy of the article, send me
an email.

Kevin

Jim Wiley wrote:

> Charles -
>
>
> I purchased a set of Radio Shack headphones a few years ago that had
> separate level controls for each ear.  They were reasonably priced,
> very comfortable, and sounded great.
>
> You might want to have  a look at what they are offering today. Their
> web site shows a  pair by Coby for only $11.00 that has independent
> controls  R/S Cat Num 55010925.
>
> They also have another set that looks a bit better quality, and has a
> volume control, but I can't tell if each side is independently
> adjustable, for $13.00 .   Their Cat Num 55010865.   The usual
> disclaimers apply.
>
>
> - Jim, KL7CC
>
>
>
> Charles Harpole wrote:
>> As a guy with frequent ear problems, I wish rigs had a
>>
>> balance control which puts more AF juice into one
>>
>> side of the headphones compared to the other.
>>
>> Age-ing hams  can wish....  73
>>
>> Charles Harpole
>>
>> [hidden email]
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