K3 Band Data

classic Classic list List threaded Threaded
5 messages Options
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

K3 Band Data

Pedro, EA4KD
I am the owner of an old K3 (Nov 2007 # 188) and now I need to use Band Data
outputs. As they did not work I have been looking for the problem and found
that a long time ago there was a board that sold Elecraft to solve the
problem (REMIOUPGD) for K3 before December 2008, but that is no longer
available.

 

Someone has available a board of these or information to be able to make
this modification and use the Band Data?.

 

Thank´s in advance

 

Pedro, EA4KD

 

______________________________________________________________
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:[hidden email]

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to [hidden email]
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: K3 Band Data

Don Wilhelm
Pedro and all,

The first K3 had band data outputs that were driven by open drain FETs.
That means that the receiving unit had to provide the pullup voltage to
operate properly.

Since almost no one in the amateur community understood the benefits of
using open drain or open collector devices to drive the attached device
(which would provide the pullup voltage), that was changed so the K3
provided the pullup voltages early in the life of the K3.

If your K3 does not provide voltage on the band data lines, then you can
add the resistors to +5 volts if you install the REMIOUPGD resistors to
the band data lines.  This upgrade kit is no longer available from
Elecraft, but the instructions can be found in the archives.
If you are also wanting to upgrade your K3 with the USB interface, you
can install the KIO3BUKT3 which replaces the REMIOPGT  kit and provides
pullup resistors on the band data lines.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/11/2020 6:53 PM, Pedro, EA4KD wrote:

> I am the owner of an old K3 (Nov 2007 # 188) and now I need to use Band Data
> outputs. As they did not work I have been looking for the problem and found
> that a long time ago there was a board that sold Elecraft to solve the
> problem (REMIOUPGD) for K3 before December 2008, but that is no longer
> available.
>
>  
>
> Someone has available a board of these or information to be able to make
> this modification and use the Band Data?.
>
______________________________________________________________
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:[hidden email]

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to [hidden email]
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: K3 Band Data

Pedro, EA4KD
Many thanks Don;

Only need the instructions to add the resistors, I'll keep looking because I haven't found yet.

Pedro, EA4KD

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[hidden email]]
Enviado el: domingo, 12 de enero de 2020 1:24
Para: Pedro, EA4KD; [hidden email]
Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band Data

Pedro and all,

The first K3 had band data outputs that were driven by open drain FETs.
That means that the receiving unit had to provide the pullup voltage to
operate properly.

Since almost no one in the amateur community understood the benefits of
using open drain or open collector devices to drive the attached device
(which would provide the pullup voltage), that was changed so the K3
provided the pullup voltages early in the life of the K3.

If your K3 does not provide voltage on the band data lines, then you can
add the resistors to +5 volts if you install the REMIOUPGD resistors to
the band data lines.  This upgrade kit is no longer available from
Elecraft, but the instructions can be found in the archives.
If you are also wanting to upgrade your K3 with the USB interface, you
can install the KIO3BUKT3 which replaces the REMIOPGT  kit and provides
pullup resistors on the band data lines.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/11/2020 6:53 PM, Pedro, EA4KD wrote:

> I am the owner of an old K3 (Nov 2007 # 188) and now I need to use Band Data
> outputs. As they did not work I have been looking for the problem and found
> that a long time ago there was a board that sold Elecraft to solve the
> problem (REMIOUPGD) for K3 before December 2008, but that is no longer
> available.
>
>  
>
> Someone has available a board of these or information to be able to make
> this modification and use the Band Data?.
>

______________________________________________________________
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:[hidden email]

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to [hidden email]
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: K3 Band Data

Clay Autery-2
Here you go:

https://ftp.elecraft.com/K3/Mod%20Notes%20Alerts/K3ALCMod_Rev_B.pdf 
<----  K3 Negative ALC and Ext Band Data Pull-up Mods, Rev B: REMIOUPGD
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The above doc has the instructions for EXT ALC mod and Pullup resistor mod.

https://ftp.elecraft.com/K3S/Manuals%20Downloads/KIO3BUPGD-FAQ%20rev%20A.pdf 
<----  Replaces REMIOUPGD  with KIO3BUPKT FAQ
https://ftp.elecraft.com/K3S/Manuals%20Downloads/E740280%20KIO3B%20Installation%20Rev%20A3.pdf 
<---KIO3BUPKT INSTALL

Hope this stuff is what you are looking for....

73,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 01/12/20 02:01, Pedro, EA4KD wrote:

> Many thanks Don;
>
> Only need the instructions to add the resistors, I'll keep looking because I haven't found yet.
>
> Pedro, EA4KD
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Enviado el: domingo, 12 de enero de 2020 1:24
> Para: Pedro, EA4KD; [hidden email]
> Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band Data
>
> Pedro and all,
>
> The first K3 had band data outputs that were driven by open drain FETs.
> That means that the receiving unit had to provide the pullup voltage to
> operate properly.
>
> Since almost no one in the amateur community understood the benefits of
> using open drain or open collector devices to drive the attached device
> (which would provide the pullup voltage), that was changed so the K3
> provided the pullup voltages early in the life of the K3.
>
> If your K3 does not provide voltage on the band data lines, then you can
> add the resistors to +5 volts if you install the REMIOUPGD resistors to
> the band data lines.  This upgrade kit is no longer available from
> Elecraft, but the instructions can be found in the archives.
> If you are also wanting to upgrade your K3 with the USB interface, you
> can install the KIO3BUKT3 which replaces the REMIOPGT  kit and provides
> pullup resistors on the band data lines.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 1/11/2020 6:53 PM, Pedro, EA4KD wrote:
>> I am the owner of an old K3 (Nov 2007 # 188) and now I need to use Band Data
>> outputs. As they did not work I have been looking for the problem and found
>> that a long time ago there was a board that sold Elecraft to solve the
>> problem (REMIOUPGD) for K3 before December 2008, but that is no longer
>> available.
>>
>>    
>>
>> Someone has available a board of these or information to be able to make
>> this modification and use the Band Data?.
>>
> ______________________________________________________________
> Elecraft mailing list
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
> Post: mailto:[hidden email]
>
> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
> Message delivered to [hidden email]
______________________________________________________________
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:[hidden email]

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to [hidden email]
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: K3 Band Data

Pedro, EA4KD
Very grateful Clay

Pedro, EA4KD


-----Mensaje original-----
De: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] En nombre de Clay Autery
Enviado el: domingo, 12 de enero de 2020 9:57
Para: [hidden email]
Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band Data

Here you go:

https://ftp.elecraft.com/K3/Mod%20Notes%20Alerts/K3ALCMod_Rev_B.pdf 
<----  K3 Negative ALC and Ext Band Data Pull-up Mods, Rev B: REMIOUPGD
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The above doc has the instructions for EXT ALC mod and Pullup resistor mod.

https://ftp.elecraft.com/K3S/Manuals%20Downloads/KIO3BUPGD-FAQ%20rev%20A.pdf 
<----  Replaces REMIOUPGD  with KIO3BUPKT FAQ
https://ftp.elecraft.com/K3S/Manuals%20Downloads/E740280%20KIO3B%20Installation%20Rev%20A3.pdf 
<---KIO3BUPKT INSTALL

Hope this stuff is what you are looking for....

73,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 01/12/20 02:01, Pedro, EA4KD wrote:

> Many thanks Don;
>
> Only need the instructions to add the resistors, I'll keep looking because I haven't found yet.
>
> Pedro, EA4KD
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Enviado el: domingo, 12 de enero de 2020 1:24
> Para: Pedro, EA4KD; [hidden email]
> Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band Data
>
> Pedro and all,
>
> The first K3 had band data outputs that were driven by open drain FETs.
> That means that the receiving unit had to provide the pullup voltage to
> operate properly.
>
> Since almost no one in the amateur community understood the benefits of
> using open drain or open collector devices to drive the attached device
> (which would provide the pullup voltage), that was changed so the K3
> provided the pullup voltages early in the life of the K3.
>
> If your K3 does not provide voltage on the band data lines, then you can
> add the resistors to +5 volts if you install the REMIOUPGD resistors to
> the band data lines.  This upgrade kit is no longer available from
> Elecraft, but the instructions can be found in the archives.
> If you are also wanting to upgrade your K3 with the USB interface, you
> can install the KIO3BUKT3 which replaces the REMIOPGT  kit and provides
> pullup resistors on the band data lines.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 1/11/2020 6:53 PM, Pedro, EA4KD wrote:
>> I am the owner of an old K3 (Nov 2007 # 188) and now I need to use Band Data
>> outputs. As they did not work I have been looking for the problem and found
>> that a long time ago there was a board that sold Elecraft to solve the
>> problem (REMIOUPGD) for K3 before December 2008, but that is no longer
>> available.
>>
>>    
>>
>> Someone has available a board of these or information to be able to make
>> this modification and use the Band Data?.
>>
> ______________________________________________________________
> Elecraft mailing list
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
> Post: mailto:[hidden email]
>
> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
> Message delivered to [hidden email]
______________________________________________________________
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:[hidden email]

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to [hidden email]

______________________________________________________________
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:[hidden email]

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to [hidden email]