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K3 - COM port iterating ...

Nick Kennedy
I use the USB to serial converter from Elecraft to connect my laptop to
my K3.  When I initially plugged it in it configured itself as COM 4.  
Hmmm?  My laptop doesn't have any real serial ports.

Later, I moved it to a different connector and lost communications.  The
COM port had re-configured itself as COM 5.  So I changed the settings
on my software to suit and things were good.  I wondered if this
behavior was somehow related to the specific USB port.  So I moved the
connector back to the initial USB port.  This time the COM port iterated
up to COM 6.

I wonder if there's a way to tell this thing to be the same COM port
each time I plug it in?  My computer is a fairly new Dell laptop running
Vista.  As recommended, I let Vista go out and find the best driver for
it on the web.

73--Nick, WA5BDU
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RE: K3 - COM port iterating ...

Thomas Norff
Hi Nick,

that's quite normal. All interfaces (each USB-Port is one interface !) are
enumerated during the boot process of your OS.
Each USB-Port will stay the same COMn after reboot. Connecting the converter
to a different USB-Port is the same as connecting a new converter to the
system.

Maybe there is a way to manually modify the enumeration after reboot.
I would prefer to just remember which USB-Port i used the last time.

73 de Thomas, DM7TN

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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - COM port iterating ...

I use the USB to serial converter from Elecraft to connect my laptop to my
K3.  When I initially plugged it in it configured itself as COM 4.  
Hmmm?  My laptop doesn't have any real serial ports.

Later, I moved it to a different connector and lost communications.  The COM
port had re-configured itself as COM 5.  So I changed the settings on my
software to suit and things were good.  I wondered if this behavior was
somehow related to the specific USB port.  So I moved the connector back to
the initial USB port.  This time the COM port iterated up to COM 6.

I wonder if there's a way to tell this thing to be the same COM port each
time I plug it in?  My computer is a fairly new Dell laptop running Vista.
As recommended, I let Vista go out and find the best driver for it on the
web.

73--Nick, WA5BDU
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Re: K3 - COM port iterating ...

Simon (HB9DRV)
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Don't unplug / plug them in while the OS is running.

C'est la vie (mate).

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

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From: "Nick-WA5BDU" <[hidden email]>

> I use the USB to serial converter from Elecraft to connect my laptop to
> my K3.  When I initially plugged it in it configured itself as COM 4.  
> Hmmm?  My laptop doesn't have any real serial ports.
 
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Re: K3 - COM port iterating ...

AD6XY
It is an irritating feature of MS Windows. I think you can fix the RS232 port with a utility, or for example by limiting the maximum com ports to 1.

I wonder how long receivers are going to use RS232 ports. I know they are easier to deal with but most new PCs will not have them. I just got an EEE901. It has 3 USB but no com ports and is ideal for business trips or portable operations. I am surprised the K3 uses RS232 as Wane/Eric are more than capable of designing a USB based interface, which could theoretically do so much more, including passing the audio or even the I/Q. No need for those TTL/RS232 level converters either. Perhaps it was done for compatibility with older software. I am fairly sure future radios will be USB or Ethernet.

 Remote operations would be nice but HRD will not fit!

Mike


Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote
Don't unplug / plug them in while the OS is running.

C'est la vie (mate).

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

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From: "Nick-WA5BDU" <nick-wa5bdu@suddenlink.net>

> I use the USB to serial converter from Elecraft to connect my laptop to
> my K3.  When I initially plugged it in it configured itself as COM 4.  
> Hmmm?  My laptop doesn't have any real serial ports.
 
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Re: K3 - COM port iterating ...

Alan Bloom
One advantage of an RS-232 port is it has deterministic latency.  Unlike
USB, you always have a direct connection between the serial driver
software and the hardware being controlled.

Al N1AL


On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 13:48, AD6XY wrote:

> It is an irritating feature of MS Windows. I think you can fix the RS232 port
> with a utility, or for example by limiting the maximum com ports to 1.
>
> I wonder how long receivers are going to use RS232 ports. I know they are
> easier to deal with but most new PCs will not have them. I just got an
> EEE901. It has 3 USB but no com ports and is ideal for business trips or
> portable operations. I am surprised the K3 uses RS232 as Wane/Eric are more
> than capable of designing a USB based interface, which could theoretically
> do so much more, including passing the audio or even the I/Q. No need for
> those TTL/RS232 level converters either. Perhaps it was done for
> compatibility with older software. I am fairly sure future radios will be
> USB or Ethernet.
>
>  Remote operations would be nice but HRD will not fit!
>
> Mike
>


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Re: K3 - COM port iterating ...

Dave, G4AON
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On my XP laptop I run two USB to serial adapters. I took the precaution
of buying two of the same type as Windows tries to install a driver
every time you plug one in a port that hasn't had one plugged in
previously... Using just one type means less hassle setting it all up.
I've labelled my all USB ports as "Comm 4", "Comm 2", etc. and they
always seem to use the same port number, mostly I plug in an adapter
after Windows is up and running. I run a logging program on one port and
a GPRS phone for DX Cluster access on the other. I use the laptop out
portable and it all seems to work fine. Maybe Vista is more fussy but I
thought it was supposed to be an improvement over XP?

73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
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I wonder if there's a way to tell this thing to be the same COM port
each time I plug it in? My computer is a fairly new Dell laptop running
Vista. As recommended, I let Vista go out and find the best driver for
it on the web.

73--Nick, WA5BDU
#1195
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