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K5DNL
Hello All,

I would like to be able to TX CW while in Data mode,
This would allow me to use the tune button on the
Yaesu VL-1000 Amp to tune the amp for rtty mode.

73 and HNY Ken K5DNL


     
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Re: K3_CW_Data_Mode

Mike K2MK
Hi Ken:

The K3 tune button already works in Data mode. At least in AFSK A. Did I misunderstand the question?

73,
Mike K2MK


from K5DNL"

I would like to be able to TX CW while in Data mode,
This would allow me to use the tune button on the
Yaesu VL-1000 Amp to tune the amp for rtty mode.

73 and HNY Ken K5DNL
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Re: K3_CW_Data_Mode

Joe Subich, W4TV-4


> The K3 tune button already works in Data mode. At least in
> AFSK A. Did I misunderstand the question?

Yes, you misunderstood the purpose of the question.

The Yaesu Quadra provides a contact closure when the T-F Set button
on the Quadra is pressed.  The T-F button causes the Quadra tuner
to retune, etc. if it is pressed and the amplifier gets at least
75 Watts drive.

If the K3's "Key" (straight key) input were active in data modes,
the T-F output from the Quadra could be connected to the Key
jack and the K3/Quadra interaction would be fully automatic (if
one used the N0SS designed cable) just as it is with any of the
Yaesu transceivers.  

Unfortunately, the K3 does not have an unused DigIn line that
could be used as a dedicated "T-F input" but enabling the Key
input in all remaining modes (Data, AM, and FM) would be an
entirely satisfactory solution.  If closing that contact were
to use "Tune PWR" in Data/AM/FM, it would be icing on the cake.

By the way, for AM, FM and FSK one can connect T-F Set to BOTH
Key and PTT using a pair of diodes but this still requires the
user to switch modes to tune the Quadra when using audio based
digital modes (AFSK, PSK, etc.).

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV
 
 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mike K2MK
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:02 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3_CW_Data_Mode
>
>
>
> Hi Ken:
>
> The K3 tune button already works in Data mode. At least in
> AFSK A. Did I misunderstand the question?
>
> 73,
> Mike K2MK
>
>
> from K5DNL"
>
> I would like to be able to TX CW while in Data mode,
> This would allow me to use the tune button on the
> Yaesu VL-1000 Amp to tune the amp for rtty mode.
>
> 73 and HNY Ken K5DNL
> --
> View this message in context:
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Re: K3_CW_Data_Mode

K5DNL
Joe ,
Yes , thanks for helping me out, could not have explained
it that good.
This firmware change would be a big help.

73 Ken K5DNL

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--- On Wed, 12/30/09, Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3_CW_Data_Mode
> To: "'Mike K2MK'" <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]
> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 12:42 PM
>
>
> > The K3 tune button already works in Data mode. At
> least in
> > AFSK A. Did I misunderstand the question?
>
> Yes, you misunderstood the purpose of the question.
>
> The Yaesu Quadra provides a contact closure when the T-F
> Set button
> on the Quadra is pressed.  The T-F button causes the
> Quadra tuner
> to retune, etc. if it is pressed and the amplifier gets at
> least
> 75 Watts drive.
>
> If the K3's "Key" (straight key) input were active in data
> modes,
> the T-F output from the Quadra could be connected to the
> Key
> jack and the K3/Quadra interaction would be fully automatic
> (if
> one used the N0SS designed cable) just as it is with any of
> the
> Yaesu transceivers. 
>
> Unfortunately, the K3 does not have an unused DigIn line
> that
> could be used as a dedicated "T-F input" but enabling the
> Key
> input in all remaining modes (Data, AM, and FM) would be an
>
> entirely satisfactory solution.  If closing that
> contact were
> to use "Tune PWR" in Data/AM/FM, it would be icing on the
> cake.
>
> By the way, for AM, FM and FSK one can connect T-F Set to
> BOTH
> Key and PTT using a pair of diodes but this still requires
> the
> user to switch modes to tune the Quadra when using audio
> based
> digital modes (AFSK, PSK, etc.).
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>  
>  
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [hidden email]
>
> > [mailto:[hidden email]]
> On Behalf Of Mike K2MK
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:02 PM
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3_CW_Data_Mode
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Ken:
> >
> > The K3 tune button already works in Data mode. At
> least in
> > AFSK A. Did I misunderstand the question?
> >
> > 73,
> > Mike K2MK
> >
> >
> > from K5DNL"
> >
> > I would like to be able to TX CW while in Data mode,
> > This would allow me to use the tune button on the
> > Yaesu VL-1000 Amp to tune the amp for rtty mode.
> >
> > 73 and HNY Ken K5DNL
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> > http://n2.nabble.com/K3-CW-Data-Mode-tp4232932p4233013.html
> > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at
> Nabble.com.
> >
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Re: K3_CW_Data_Mode

Iain MacDonnell - N6ML-2
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On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
>> The K3 tune button already works in Data mode. At least in
>> AFSK A. Did I misunderstand the question?
>
> Yes, you misunderstood the purpose of the question.
>
> The Yaesu Quadra provides a contact closure when the T-F Set button
> on the Quadra is pressed.  The T-F button causes the Quadra tuner
> to retune, etc. if it is pressed and the amplifier gets at least
> 75 Watts drive.
>
> If the K3's "Key" (straight key) input were active in data modes,
> the T-F output from the Quadra could be connected to the Key
> jack and the K3/Quadra interaction would be fully automatic (if
> one used the N0SS designed cable) just as it is with any of the
> Yaesu transceivers.
>
> Unfortunately, the K3 does not have an unused DigIn line that
> could be used as a dedicated "T-F input" but enabling the Key
> input in all remaining modes (Data, AM, and FM) would be an
> entirely satisfactory solution.  If closing that contact were
> to use "Tune PWR" in Data/AM/FM, it would be icing on the cake.

I have an automatic antenna tuner that can "tell" the rig when to
transmit, for retuning purposes. A while back, I made a suggestion to
Wayne that perhaps the "TX inhibit" pin on the ACC port could be given
another purpose - to invoke "TUNE".  I envisaged a new config setting
like "CONFIG:TX INH" = "HI=Tun" or "LO=Tun". Wayne seemed to think it
wasn't a bad idea, but would be very low priority, based on demand. It
seems like this model may work for the Quadra application too, without
having researched it at all. If there's enough demand, maybe it could
be reprioritised...

    ~Iain / N6ML
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Re: K3_CW_Data_Mode

Joe Subich, W4TV-4


>  A while back, I made a suggestion to Wayne that perhaps the
> "TX inhibit" pin on the ACC port could be given another purpose
> - to invoke "TUNE".  I envisaged a new config setting like
> "CONFIG:TX INH" = "HI=Tun" or "LO=Tun". Wayne seemed to think
> it wasn't a bad idea, but would be very low priority, based on
> demand.  It seems like this model may work for the Quadra
> application too, without having researched it at all.

While repurposing the "TX Inh" pin has appear for non-Quadra users,
it is a step backward when the Quadra or FL-7000 is used since
both of those amplifiers utilize the inhibit input ("Linear"
in most Yaesu manuals).  

If an antenna tuner has an output that holds causes the transceiver
to generate a carrier, there is no reason that it can't be tied to
the "key" jack as long as the K3 will generate a carrier whenever
the Key jack is closed.  

If DigOut 0 could be used to generate a 750 ms (greater than 600
msec) contact closure to ground if ATU Tune is pressed when the
KAT3 is not fitted or is turned off - preferably on a per antenna,
per band basis, and set the power level to the "Tune" level for
that transmission only - if the Key In jack generated a carrier
on all modes, the K3 would be instantly compatible with any tuner
that used the Icom AH-3/AH-4 interface and could use the ATU Tune
button to initiate tuning.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV
   
 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf
> Of Iain MacDonnell - N6ML
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 3:02 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Cc: Mike K2MK; [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3_CW_Data_Mode
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> The K3 tune button already works in Data mode. At least in AFSK A.
> >> Did I misunderstand the question?
> >
> > Yes, you misunderstood the purpose of the question.
> >
> > The Yaesu Quadra provides a contact closure when the T-F
> Set button on
> > the Quadra is pressed.  The T-F button causes the Quadra tuner to
> > retune, etc. if it is pressed and the amplifier gets at
> least 75 Watts
> > drive.
> >
> > If the K3's "Key" (straight key) input were active in data
> modes, the
> > T-F output from the Quadra could be connected to the Key
> jack and the
> > K3/Quadra interaction would be fully automatic (if one used
> the N0SS
> > designed cable) just as it is with any of the Yaesu transceivers.
> >
> > Unfortunately, the K3 does not have an unused DigIn line
> that could be
> > used as a dedicated "T-F input" but enabling the Key input in all
> > remaining modes (Data, AM, and FM) would be an entirely
> satisfactory
> > solution.  If closing that contact were to use "Tune PWR" in
> > Data/AM/FM, it would be icing on the cake.
>
> I have an automatic antenna tuner that can "tell" the rig
> when to transmit, for retuning purposes. A while back, I made
> a suggestion to Wayne that perhaps the "TX inhibit" pin on
> the ACC port could be given another purpose - to invoke
> "TUNE".  I envisaged a new config setting like "CONFIG:TX
> INH" = "HI=Tun" or "LO=Tun". Wayne seemed to think it wasn't
> a bad idea, but would be very low priority, based on demand.
> It seems like this model may work for the Quadra application
> too, without having researched it at all. If there's enough
> demand, maybe it could be reprioritised...
>
>     ~Iain / N6ML

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Re: K3_CW_Data_Mode

Iain MacDonnell - N6ML-2
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
>>  A while back, I made a suggestion to Wayne that perhaps the
>> "TX inhibit" pin on the ACC port could be given another purpose
>> - to invoke "TUNE".  I envisaged a new config setting like
>> "CONFIG:TX INH" = "HI=Tun" or "LO=Tun". Wayne seemed to think
>> it wasn't a bad idea, but would be very low priority, based on
>> demand.  It seems like this model may work for the Quadra
>> application too, without having researched it at all.
>
> While repurposing the "TX Inh" pin has appear for non-Quadra users,
> it is a step backward when the Quadra or FL-7000 is used since
> both of those amplifiers utilize the inhibit input ("Linear"
> in most Yaesu manuals).

OK.


> If an antenna tuner has an output that holds causes the transceiver
> to generate a carrier, there is no reason that it can't be tied to
> the "key" jack as long as the K3 will generate a carrier whenever
> the Key jack is closed.

Except that that produces full output power, where I want "CONFIG:TUN
PWR" (which is not not "nor").

    ~Iain / N6ML



> If DigOut 0 could be used to generate a 750 ms (greater than 600
> msec) contact closure to ground if ATU Tune is pressed when the
> KAT3 is not fitted or is turned off - preferably on a per antenna,
> per band basis, and set the power level to the "Tune" level for
> that transmission only - if the Key In jack generated a carrier
> on all modes, the K3 would be instantly compatible with any tuner
> that used the Icom AH-3/AH-4 interface and could use the ATU Tune
> button to initiate tuning.
>
> 73,
>
>   ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf
>> Of Iain MacDonnell - N6ML
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 3:02 PM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Cc: Mike K2MK; [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3_CW_Data_Mode
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> The K3 tune button already works in Data mode. At least in AFSK A.
>> >> Did I misunderstand the question?
>> >
>> > Yes, you misunderstood the purpose of the question.
>> >
>> > The Yaesu Quadra provides a contact closure when the T-F
>> Set button on
>> > the Quadra is pressed.  The T-F button causes the Quadra tuner to
>> > retune, etc. if it is pressed and the amplifier gets at
>> least 75 Watts
>> > drive.
>> >
>> > If the K3's "Key" (straight key) input were active in data
>> modes, the
>> > T-F output from the Quadra could be connected to the Key
>> jack and the
>> > K3/Quadra interaction would be fully automatic (if one used
>> the N0SS
>> > designed cable) just as it is with any of the Yaesu transceivers.
>> >
>> > Unfortunately, the K3 does not have an unused DigIn line
>> that could be
>> > used as a dedicated "T-F input" but enabling the Key input in all
>> > remaining modes (Data, AM, and FM) would be an entirely
>> satisfactory
>> > solution.  If closing that contact were to use "Tune PWR" in
>> > Data/AM/FM, it would be icing on the cake.
>>
>> I have an automatic antenna tuner that can "tell" the rig
>> when to transmit, for retuning purposes. A while back, I made
>> a suggestion to Wayne that perhaps the "TX inhibit" pin on
>> the ACC port could be given another purpose - to invoke
>> "TUNE".  I envisaged a new config setting like "CONFIG:TX
>> INH" = "HI=Tun" or "LO=Tun". Wayne seemed to think it wasn't
>> a bad idea, but would be very low priority, based on demand.
>> It seems like this model may work for the Quadra application
>> too, without having researched it at all. If there's enough
>> demand, maybe it could be reprioritised...
>>
>>     ~Iain / N6ML
>
>
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Re: K3_CW_Data_Mode

Gary Hinson
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> >  A while back, I made a suggestion to Wayne that perhaps the
> > "TX inhibit" pin on the ACC port could be given another purpose
> > - to invoke "TUNE".  I envisaged a new config setting like
> > "CONFIG:TX INH" = "HI=Tun" or "LO=Tun". Wayne seemed to think
> > it wasn't a bad idea, but would be very low priority, based on
> > demand.  It seems like this model may work for the Quadra
> > application too, without having researched it at all.
>
> While repurposing the "TX Inh" pin has appear for non-Quadra users,
> it is a step backward

Sounds to me like an inadvisable combination of controls sharing the one line: TX inhibit and key TX
clearly are opposites.  If someone accidentally misconfigures their K3 (not altogether unlikely),
this could get messy if a TX inhibit command actually keys the rig.

I'm not arguing against the facility to tune the rig if that's what you really need, just not on the
TX inhibit line.

73
Gary  ZL2iFB

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Re: K3_CW_Data_Mode

Iain MacDonnell - N6ML-2
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Gary Hinson <[hidden email]> wrote:

>> >  A while back, I made a suggestion to Wayne that perhaps the
>> > "TX inhibit" pin on the ACC port could be given another purpose
>> > - to invoke "TUNE".  I envisaged a new config setting like
>> > "CONFIG:TX INH" = "HI=Tun" or "LO=Tun". Wayne seemed to think
>> > it wasn't a bad idea, but would be very low priority, based on
>> > demand.  It seems like this model may work for the Quadra
>> > application too, without having researched it at all.
>>
>> While repurposing the "TX Inh" pin has appear for non-Quadra users,
>> it is a step backward
>
> Sounds to me like an inadvisable combination of controls sharing the one line: TX inhibit and key TX
> clearly are opposites.  If someone accidentally misconfigures their K3 (not altogether unlikely),
> this could get messy if a TX inhibit command actually keys the rig.

Fair point.. whilst I'm not a fan of wrapping everything in
cotton-wool, I can see how that could lead to an expensive "oops!".


> I'm not arguing against the facility to tune the rig if that's what you really need, just not on the
> TX inhibit line.

There doesn't appear to be any other input line that could be used for
this purpose, though :/

    ~Iain / N6ML
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Re: K3_CW_Data_Mode

Joe Subich, W4TV-4
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> Except that that produces full output power, where I want
> "CONFIG:TUN PWR" (which is not not "nor").

You notice my proposal to use the ATU Tun (tap) to start the
tuning process and use the Tun Pwr setting.  That resolves the
power level issue.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV
 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf
> Of Iain MacDonnell - N6ML
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 4:54 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Cc: Mike K2MK; [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3_CW_Data_Mode
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>  A while back, I made a suggestion to Wayne that perhaps the "TX
> >> inhibit" pin on the ACC port could be given another purpose
> >> - to invoke "TUNE".  I envisaged a new config setting like
> "CONFIG:TX
> >> INH" = "HI=Tun" or "LO=Tun". Wayne seemed to think it wasn't a bad
> >> idea, but would be very low priority, based on demand.  It
> seems like
> >> this model may work for the Quadra application too, without having
> >> researched it at all.
> >
> > While repurposing the "TX Inh" pin has appear for
> non-Quadra users, it
> > is a step backward when the Quadra or FL-7000 is used since both of
> > those amplifiers utilize the inhibit input ("Linear" in most Yaesu
> > manuals).
>
> OK.
>
>
> > If an antenna tuner has an output that holds causes the
> transceiver to
> > generate a carrier, there is no reason that it can't be tied to the
> > "key" jack as long as the K3 will generate a carrier
> whenever the Key
> > jack is closed.
>
> Except that that produces full output power, where I want
> "CONFIG:TUN PWR" (which is not not "nor").
>
>     ~Iain / N6ML
>
>
>
> > If DigOut 0 could be used to generate a 750 ms (greater than 600
> > msec) contact closure to ground if ATU Tune is pressed when
> the KAT3
> > is not fitted or is turned off - preferably on a per
> antenna, per band
> > basis, and set the power level to the "Tune" level for that
> > transmission only - if the Key In jack generated a carrier on all
> > modes, the K3 would be instantly compatible with any tuner
> that used
> > the Icom AH-3/AH-4 interface and could use the ATU Tune button to
> > initiate tuning.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> >   ... Joe, W4TV
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On
> Behalf Of Iain
> >> MacDonnell - N6ML
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 3:02 PM
> >> To: [hidden email]
> >> Cc: Mike K2MK; [hidden email]
> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3_CW_Data_Mode
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV
> <[hidden email]>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> The K3 tune button already works in Data mode. At least
> in AFSK A.
> >> >> Did I misunderstand the question?
> >> >
> >> > Yes, you misunderstood the purpose of the question.
> >> >
> >> > The Yaesu Quadra provides a contact closure when the T-F
> >> Set button on
> >> > the Quadra is pressed.  The T-F button causes the Quadra
> tuner to
> >> > retune, etc. if it is pressed and the amplifier gets at
> >> least 75 Watts
> >> > drive.
> >> >
> >> > If the K3's "Key" (straight key) input were active in data
> >> modes, the
> >> > T-F output from the Quadra could be connected to the Key
> >> jack and the
> >> > K3/Quadra interaction would be fully automatic (if one used
> >> the N0SS
> >> > designed cable) just as it is with any of the Yaesu transceivers.
> >> >
> >> > Unfortunately, the K3 does not have an unused DigIn line
> >> that could be
> >> > used as a dedicated "T-F input" but enabling the Key
> input in all
> >> > remaining modes (Data, AM, and FM) would be an entirely
> >> satisfactory
> >> > solution.  If closing that contact were to use "Tune PWR" in
> >> > Data/AM/FM, it would be icing on the cake.
> >>
> >> I have an automatic antenna tuner that can "tell" the rig when to
> >> transmit, for retuning purposes. A while back, I made a
> suggestion to
> >> Wayne that perhaps the "TX inhibit" pin on the ACC port could be
> >> given another purpose - to invoke "TUNE".  I envisaged a
> new config
> >> setting like "CONFIG:TX INH" = "HI=Tun" or "LO=Tun". Wayne
> seemed to
> >> think it wasn't a bad idea, but would be very low
> priority, based on
> >> demand. It seems like this model may work for the Quadra
> application
> >> too, without having researched it at all. If there's enough
> >> demand, maybe it could be reprioritised...
> >>
> >>     ~Iain / N6ML
> >
> >

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Re: K3_CW_Data_Mode

Joe Subich, W4TV-4
In reply to this post by Iain MacDonnell - N6ML-2


> There doesn't appear to be any other input line that could be
> used for this purpose, though :/

One might conceivably use multiple input lines ... while it
would take some work, pull the FSK and Key lines low at the
same time (diodes like the straight key/paddle "fix" for the
K2).  I suspect the controller could be programmed to work with
that.  If FSK and Key are inconvenient, how about Key and PTT?
Again, as long as PTT proceeds Key input (when using computer
keying), it should not be too difficult to distinguish between
normal operation and external "tune" ...

I only avoid the Inh line because of the conflict with its
use for Inhibit and its alternate function "K3 on" for XVTR
use.  

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV
 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Iain
> MacDonnell - N6ML
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 6:26 PM
> To: Gary Hinson
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3_CW_Data_Mode
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Gary Hinson <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >> >  A while back, I made a suggestion to Wayne that perhaps the "TX
> >> > inhibit" pin on the ACC port could be given another purpose
> >> > - to invoke "TUNE".  I envisaged a new config setting like
> >> > "CONFIG:TX INH" = "HI=Tun" or "LO=Tun". Wayne seemed to think it
> >> > wasn't a bad idea, but would be very low priority, based
> on demand.  
> >> > It seems like this model may work for the Quadra
> application too,
> >> > without having researched it at all.
> >>
> >> While repurposing the "TX Inh" pin has appear for
> non-Quadra users,
> >> it is a step backward
> >
> > Sounds to me like an inadvisable combination of controls
> sharing the
> > one line: TX inhibit and key TX clearly are opposites.  If someone
> > accidentally misconfigures their K3 (not altogether unlikely), this
> > could get messy if a TX inhibit command actually keys the rig.
>
> Fair point.. whilst I'm not a fan of wrapping everything in
> cotton-wool, I can see how that could lead to an expensive "oops!".
>
>
> > I'm not arguing against the facility to tune the rig if that's what
> > you really need, just not on the TX inhibit line.
>
> There doesn't appear to be any other input line that could be
> used for this purpose, though :/
>
>     ~Iain / N6ML
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