K3: CW delay is used when exiting XMIT mode manually
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I do not see the need for using the CW delay time when manually exiting xmit
mode when I press the XMIT button. I would expect the rig to return to receive mode as soon as the button is pressed. If I set the CW delay to zero, the return is instantaneous. I admit that I only rarely use the manual XMIT mode but I find it distracting when I do. John [K7SVV] _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I should have mentioned that this happens in CW mode and not SSB mode.
John [K7SVV] ----- Original Message ----- From: "John [K7SVV]" <[hidden email]> To: "Elecraft Mail List" <[hidden email]> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 1:41 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3: CW delay is used when exiting XMIT mode manually >I do not see the need for using the CW delay time when manually exiting >xmit mode when I press the XMIT button. I would expect the rig to return >to receive mode as soon as the button is pressed. If I set the CW delay to >zero, the return is instantaneous. I admit that I only rarely use the >manual XMIT mode but I find it distracting when I do. > > John [K7SVV] > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: > 269.19.1/1219 - Release Date: 1/11/2008 10:19 AM > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: K3: CW delay is used when exiting XMIT mode manually
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Hi John,
sorry for question (as not on my table yet) - is this delay in any case of CW mode or only when any kind of QSK is active? I suppose there is PTT mode for CW also and you are right that in such case there is no reason for any delay. If you have QSK active, I can understand that there is delay also with MOX using (without opinion if this is bug or not - simply understand this :-)). Can you let me know if delay is also in PTT mode? thanks lexa, ok1dst John [K7SVV] napsal(a): > I should have mentioned that this happens in CW mode and not SSB mode. > > John [K7SVV] > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John [K7SVV]" <[hidden email]> > To: "Elecraft Mail List" <[hidden email]> > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 1:41 PM > Subject: [Elecraft] K3: CW delay is used when exiting XMIT mode manually > > >> I do not see the need for using the CW delay time when manually >> exiting xmit mode when I press the XMIT button. I would expect the >> rig to return to receive mode as soon as the button is pressed. If I >> set the CW delay to zero, the return is instantaneous. I admit that I >> only rarely use the manual XMIT mode but I find it distracting when I do. >> >> John [K7SVV] >> _______________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Post to: [hidden email] >> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: >> 269.19.1/1219 - Release Date: 1/11/2008 10:19 AM >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: K3: CW delay is used when exiting XMIT mode manually
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correction - should be "as K3 is not on my table yet" in my last post...
so nervous about it that producing such mistakes :) Alexandr Kobranov napsal(a): > Hi John, > sorry for question (as not on my table yet) - is this delay in any case > of CW mode or only when any kind of QSK is active? > I suppose there is PTT mode for CW also and you are right that in such > case there is no reason for any delay. If you have QSK active, I can > understand that there is delay also with MOX using (without opinion if > this is bug or not - simply understand this :-)). > Can you let me know if delay is also in PTT mode? > thanks > lexa, ok1dst > > > John [K7SVV] napsal(a): >> I should have mentioned that this happens in CW mode and not SSB mode. >> >> John [K7SVV] >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John [K7SVV]" <[hidden email]> >> To: "Elecraft Mail List" <[hidden email]> >> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 1:41 PM >> Subject: [Elecraft] K3: CW delay is used when exiting XMIT mode manually >> >> >>> I do not see the need for using the CW delay time when manually >>> exiting xmit mode when I press the XMIT button. I would expect the >>> rig to return to receive mode as soon as the button is pressed. If I >>> set the CW delay to zero, the return is instantaneous. I admit that >>> I only rarely use the manual XMIT mode but I find it distracting when >>> I do. >>> >>> John [K7SVV] >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Post to: [hidden email] >>> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >>> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >>> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: >>> 269.19.1/1219 - Release Date: 1/11/2008 10:19 AM >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Post to: [hidden email] >> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: >> http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: K3: CW delay is used when exiting XMIT mode manually
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In reply to this post by Alexandr Kobranov
John,
as I already comment directly to you - what is important for me is to know if this delay is also in VOX-off situation. I hope not, only want to be sure. If VOX-on and semi-BK then I understand and expect such delay, if VOX-on and full-BK (QSK) there will be also some delay probably but related to QSK delay which is not important. So can anybody confirm behaviour (presence of any delay) vhen VOX-off and XMIT activated/deactivated? Thanks and 73! Lexa, ok1dst John [K7SVV] napsal(a): > Alexandr, > The delay I am referring to only occurs when I am using MOX and > returning to receive mode while in CW mode. I thought I saw the same > symptom yesterday while I was DATA mode and receiving RTTY but that > wasn't the case today when I checked it. I stepped through all of the > modes and I only saw the delay returning to receive while using MOX in > CW mode. I don't see any reason for the delay. When I press XMIT to > leave xmit mode, I expect the the rig to do just that and with no > delays. I guess I find the delay a bit annoying. > > John [K7SVV] > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexandr Kobranov" <[hidden email]> > Cc: "Elecraft Mail List" <[hidden email]> > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 2:26 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW delay is used when exiting XMIT mode > manually > > >> Hi John, >> sorry for question (as not on my table yet) - is this delay in any >> case of CW mode or only when any kind of QSK is active? >> I suppose there is PTT mode for CW also and you are right that in such >> case there is no reason for any delay. If you have QSK active, I can >> understand that there is delay also with MOX using (without opinion if >> this is bug or not - simply understand this :-)). >> Can you let me know if delay is also in PTT mode? >> thanks >> lexa, ok1dst >> >> >> John [K7SVV] napsal(a): >>> I should have mentioned that this happens in CW mode and not SSB mode. >>> >>> John [K7SVV] >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John [K7SVV]" <[hidden email]> >>> To: "Elecraft Mail List" <[hidden email]> >>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 1:41 PM >>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3: CW delay is used when exiting XMIT mode manually >>> >>> >>>> I do not see the need for using the CW delay time when manually >>>> exiting xmit mode when I press the XMIT button. I would expect the >>>> rig to return to receive mode as soon as the button is pressed. If >>>> I set the CW delay to zero, the return is instantaneous. I admit >>>> that I only rarely use the manual XMIT mode but I find it >>>> distracting when I do. >>>> >>>> John [K7SVV] >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Post to: [hidden email] >>>> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >>>> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >>>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >>>> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: >>>> 269.19.1/1219 - Release Date: 1/11/2008 10:19 AM >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Post to: [hidden email] >>> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >>> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: >>> http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >>> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Post to: [hidden email] >> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: >> 269.19.1/1220 - Release Date: 1/11/2008 6:09 PM >> >> > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
RE: K3: CW delay is used when exiting XMIT mode manually
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Thanks all. Yes this is a bug and will corrected soon. Thanks for finding
this. 73 Greg AB7R -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Alexandr Kobranov Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 1:14 PM Cc: Elecraft Mail List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW delay is used when exiting XMIT mode manually John, as I already comment directly to you - what is important for me is to know if this delay is also in VOX-off situation. I hope not, only want to be sure. If VOX-on and semi-BK then I understand and expect such delay, if VOX-on and full-BK (QSK) there will be also some delay probably but related to QSK delay which is not important. So can anybody confirm behaviour (presence of any delay) vhen VOX-off and XMIT activated/deactivated? Thanks and 73! Lexa, ok1dst John [K7SVV] napsal(a): > Alexandr, > The delay I am referring to only occurs when I am using MOX and > returning to receive mode while in CW mode. I thought I saw the same > symptom yesterday while I was DATA mode and receiving RTTY but that > wasn't the case today when I checked it. I stepped through all of the > modes and I only saw the delay returning to receive while using MOX in > CW mode. I don't see any reason for the delay. When I press XMIT to > leave xmit mode, I expect the the rig to do just that and with no > delays. I guess I find the delay a bit annoying. > > John [K7SVV] > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexandr Kobranov" > Cc: "Elecraft Mail List" <[hidden email]> > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 2:26 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW delay is used when exiting XMIT mode > manually > > >> Hi John, >> sorry for question (as not on my table yet) - is this delay in any >> case of CW mode or only when any kind of QSK is active? >> I suppose there is PTT mode for CW also and you are right that in such >> case there is no reason for any delay. If you have QSK active, I can >> understand that there is delay also with MOX using (without opinion if >> this is bug or not - simply understand this :-)). >> Can you let me know if delay is also in PTT mode? >> thanks >> lexa, ok1dst >> >> >> John [K7SVV] napsal(a): >>> I should have mentioned that this happens in CW mode and not SSB mode. >>> >>> John [K7SVV] >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John [K7SVV]" <[hidden email]> >>> To: "Elecraft Mail List" <[hidden email]> >>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 1:41 PM >>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3: CW delay is used when exiting XMIT mode manually >>> >>> >>>> I do not see the need for using the CW delay time when manually >>>> exiting xmit mode when I press the XMIT button. I would expect the >>>> rig to return to receive mode as soon as the button is pressed. If >>>> I set the CW delay to zero, the return is instantaneous. I admit >>>> that I only rarely use the manual XMIT mode but I find it >>>> distracting when I do. >>>> >>>> John [K7SVV] >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Post to: [hidden email] >>>> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >>>> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >>>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >>>> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: >>>> 269.19.1/1219 - Release Date: 1/11/2008 10:19 AM >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Post to: [hidden email] >>> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >>> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: >>> http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >>> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Post to: [hidden email] >> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: >> 269.19.1/1220 - Release Date: 1/11/2008 6:09 PM >> >> > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1221 - Release Date: 1/12/2008 2:04 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1221 - Release Date: 1/12/2008 2:04 PM _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: K3: CW delay is used when exiting XMIT mode manually
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In reply to this post by Alexandr Kobranov
Hi Lexa,
We had a long thread about CW MOX a while back, and the final statement on the matter was that there is no delay when used in this way -- on immediately when you press the switch, off immediately when you release the switch. Bill W5WVO Alexandr Kobranov wrote: > John, > as I already comment directly to you - what is important for me is to > know if this delay is also in VOX-off situation. I hope not, only want > to be sure. If VOX-on and semi-BK then I understand and expect such > delay, if VOX-on and full-BK (QSK) there will be also some delay > probably but related to QSK delay which is not important. > So can anybody confirm behaviour (presence of any delay) vhen VOX-off > and XMIT activated/deactivated? > > Thanks and 73! > Lexa, ok1dst > > John [K7SVV] napsal(a): >> Alexandr, >> The delay I am referring to only occurs when I am using MOX >> and returning to receive mode while in CW mode. I thought I saw the >> same symptom yesterday while I was DATA mode and receiving RTTY but >> that wasn't the case today when I checked it. I stepped through all of >> the modes and I only saw the delay returning to receive while using >> MOX in CW mode. I don't see any reason for the delay. When I press XMIT >> to >> leave xmit mode, I expect the the rig to do just that and with no >> delays. I guess I find the delay a bit annoying. >> >> John [K7SVV] >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexandr Kobranov" >> <[hidden email]> Cc: "Elecraft Mail List" >> <[hidden email]> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 2:26 PM >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW delay is used when exiting XMIT mode >> manually >> >> >>> Hi John, >>> sorry for question (as not on my table yet) - is this delay in any >>> case of CW mode or only when any kind of QSK is active? >>> I suppose there is PTT mode for CW also and you are right that in >>> such case there is no reason for any delay. If you have QSK active, >>> I can understand that there is delay also with MOX using (without >>> opinion if this is bug or not - simply understand this :-)). >>> Can you let me know if delay is also in PTT mode? >>> thanks >>> lexa, ok1dst >>> >>> >>> John [K7SVV] napsal(a): >>>> I should have mentioned that this happens in CW mode and not SSB >>>> mode. John [K7SVV] >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John [K7SVV]" <[hidden email]> >>>> To: "Elecraft Mail List" <[hidden email]> >>>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 1:41 PM >>>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3: CW delay is used when exiting XMIT mode >>>> manually >>>>> I do not see the need for using the CW delay time when manually >>>>> exiting xmit mode when I press the XMIT button. I would expect >>>>> the rig to return to receive mode as soon as the button is >>>>> pressed. If I set the CW delay to zero, the return is >>>>> instantaneous. I admit that I only rarely use the manual XMIT >>>>> mode but I find it distracting when I do. >>>>> >>>>> John [K7SVV] >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>>> Post to: [hidden email] >>>>> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >>>>> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >>>>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >>>>> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: >>>>> 269.19.1/1219 - Release Date: 1/11/2008 10:19 AM >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Post to: [hidden email] >>>> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >>>> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >>>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: >>>> http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >>>> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Post to: [hidden email] >>> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >>> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >>> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: >>> 269.19.1/1220 - Release Date: 1/11/2008 6:09 PM >>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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