[K3} CW in SSB - no manual PTT?
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When using the "CW in SSB" feature [1] my K3 will transmit CW using semi
or full breakin, but not when using manual PTT. The footswitch and the XMIT button will switch the K3 into transmit, but then the CW keying is blocked. Is this a configuration error on my part, or a firmware bug? [1] In CONFIG - CW WGHT, tap 1 for SSB + CW (allows CW in SSB modes). The problem is independent of other options within this menu. It has also been around for a long time. 73 from Ian GM3SEK ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: [K3} CW in SSB - no manual PTT?
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>>>>> "Ian" == Ian White <[hidden email]> writes:
Ian> When using the "CW in SSB" feature [1] my K3 will transmit CW using semi Ian> or full breakin, but not when using manual PTT. The footswitch and the Ian> XMIT button will switch the K3 into transmit, but then the CW keying is Ian> blocked. Ian> Is this a configuration error on my part, or a firmware bug? wouldn't you get microphone audio mixed with the CW tone if you'd allow PTT to work? -- Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Microphone muting is not a problem. When SSB VOX and CW VOX are both
enabled, we can hear the CW-in-SSB logic working correctly: whichever mode of transmission is triggered first, that mode "wins" and input for the other mode remains muted until the VOX drops out. The problem specifically involves the use of manual PTT (microphone button, XMIT button or foot switch) which completely blocks the CW input. 73 from Ian GM3SEK >-----Original Message----- >From: Pierfrancesco Caci [mailto:[hidden email]] >Sent: 09 May 2013 12:58 >To: Ian White >Cc: [hidden email] >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3} CW in SSB - no manual PTT? > >>>>>> "Ian" == Ian White <[hidden email]> writes: > > > Ian> When using the "CW in SSB" feature [1] my K3 will transmit CW >semi > Ian> or full breakin, but not when using manual PTT. The footswitch and >the > Ian> XMIT button will switch the K3 into transmit, but then the CW keying >is > Ian> blocked. > > Ian> Is this a configuration error on my part, or a firmware bug? > > >wouldn't you get microphone audio mixed with the CW tone if you'd allow >PTT to work? > > >-- >Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: [K3} CW in SSB - no manual PTT?
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Hi Ian,
What you describe is how I understand it's supposed to work. If you assert PTT in SSB mode, it's assumed that you want to transmit SSB. The firmware has no way of distinguishing "SSB PTT" from "CW PTT". 73, ~iain / N6ML On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 6:10 AM, Ian White <[hidden email]> wrote: > Microphone muting is not a problem. When SSB VOX and CW VOX are both > enabled, we can hear the CW-in-SSB logic working correctly: whichever > mode of transmission is triggered first, that mode "wins" and input for > the other mode remains muted until the VOX drops out. > > The problem specifically involves the use of manual PTT (microphone > button, XMIT button or foot switch) which completely blocks the CW > input. > > > 73 from Ian GM3SEK > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Pierfrancesco Caci [mailto:[hidden email]] >>Sent: 09 May 2013 12:58 >>To: Ian White >>Cc: [hidden email] >>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3} CW in SSB - no manual PTT? >> >>>>>>> "Ian" == Ian White <[hidden email]> writes: >> >> >> Ian> When using the "CW in SSB" feature [1] my K3 will transmit CW > using >>semi >> Ian> or full breakin, but not when using manual PTT. The footswitch > and >>the >> Ian> XMIT button will switch the K3 into transmit, but then the CW > keying >>is >> Ian> blocked. >> >> Ian> Is this a configuration error on my part, or a firmware bug? >> >> >>wouldn't you get microphone audio mixed with the CW tone if you'd allow >>PTT to work? >> >> >>-- >>Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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>The firmware has no way of distinguishing "SSB PTT" from "CW PTT".
Correct - but (key_down .and. PTT) is unambiguous. 73 from Ian GM3SEK >-----Original Message----- >From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of iain >macdonnell - N6ML >Sent: 09 May 2013 14:43 >To: Ian White >Cc: Pierfrancesco Caci; [hidden email] >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3} CW in SSB - no manual PTT? > >Hi Ian, > >What you describe is how I understand it's supposed to work. If you >PTT in SSB mode, it's assumed that you want to transmit SSB. >The firmware has no way of distinguishing "SSB PTT" from "CW PTT". > >73, > > ~iain / N6ML > > >On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 6:10 AM, Ian White <[hidden email]> >wrote: >> Microphone muting is not a problem. When SSB VOX and CW VOX are >both >> enabled, we can hear the CW-in-SSB logic working correctly: whichever >> mode of transmission is triggered first, that mode "wins" and input >> for the other mode remains muted until the VOX drops out. >> >> The problem specifically involves the use of manual PTT (microphone >> button, XMIT button or foot switch) which completely blocks the CW >> input. >> >> >> 73 from Ian GM3SEK >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Pierfrancesco Caci [mailto:[hidden email]] >>>Sent: 09 May 2013 12:58 >>>To: Ian White >>>Cc: [hidden email] >>>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3} CW in SSB - no manual PTT? >>> >>>>>>>> "Ian" == Ian White <[hidden email]> writes: >>> >>> >>> Ian> When using the "CW in SSB" feature [1] my K3 will transmit >> using >>>semi >>> Ian> or full breakin, but not when using manual PTT. The >>>footswitch >> and >>>the >>> Ian> XMIT button will switch the K3 into transmit, but then the CW >> keying >>>is >>> Ian> blocked. >>> >>> Ian> Is this a configuration error on my part, or a firmware bug? >>> >>> >>>wouldn't you get microphone audio mixed with the CW tone if you'd >>>allow PTT to work? >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this >> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: [K3} CW in SSB - no manual PTT?
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On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Ian White <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>The firmware has no way of distinguishing "SSB PTT" from "CW PTT". > > Correct - but (key_down .and. PTT) is unambiguous. Keyers will generally assert PTT slightly *before* CW keying, so amps, etc, can be turned on. 73. ~iain / N6ML >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of iain >>macdonnell - N6ML >>Sent: 09 May 2013 14:43 >>To: Ian White >>Cc: Pierfrancesco Caci; [hidden email] >>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3} CW in SSB - no manual PTT? >> >>Hi Ian, >> >>What you describe is how I understand it's supposed to work. If you > assert >>PTT in SSB mode, it's assumed that you want to transmit SSB. >>The firmware has no way of distinguishing "SSB PTT" from "CW PTT". >> >>73, >> >> ~iain / N6ML >> >> >>On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 6:10 AM, Ian White <[hidden email]> >>wrote: >>> Microphone muting is not a problem. When SSB VOX and CW VOX are >>both >>> enabled, we can hear the CW-in-SSB logic working correctly: whichever >>> mode of transmission is triggered first, that mode "wins" and input >>> for the other mode remains muted until the VOX drops out. >>> >>> The problem specifically involves the use of manual PTT (microphone >>> button, XMIT button or foot switch) which completely blocks the CW >>> input. >>> >>> >>> 73 from Ian GM3SEK >>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Pierfrancesco Caci [mailto:[hidden email]] >>>>Sent: 09 May 2013 12:58 >>>>To: Ian White >>>>Cc: [hidden email] >>>>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3} CW in SSB - no manual PTT? >>>> >>>>>>>>> "Ian" == Ian White <[hidden email]> writes: >>>> >>>> >>>> Ian> When using the "CW in SSB" feature [1] my K3 will transmit > CW >>> using >>>>semi >>>> Ian> or full breakin, but not when using manual PTT. The >>>>footswitch >>> and >>>>the >>>> Ian> XMIT button will switch the K3 into transmit, but then the > CW >>> keying >>>>is >>>> Ian> blocked. >>>> >>>> Ian> Is this a configuration error on my part, or a firmware bug? >>>> >>>> >>>>wouldn't you get microphone audio mixed with the CW tone if you'd >>>>allow PTT to work? >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this >>> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: [K3} CW in SSB - no manual PTT?
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In reply to this post by gm3sek
> Is this a configuration error on my part, or a firmware bug? Neither - it is a feature. Activating PTT activate SSB mode when in SSB. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/9/2013 5:43 AM, Ian White wrote: > When using the "CW in SSB" feature [1] my K3 will transmit CW using semi > or full breakin, but not when using manual PTT. The footswitch and the > XMIT button will switch the K3 into transmit, but then the CW keying is > blocked. > > Is this a configuration error on my part, or a firmware bug? > > > [1] In CONFIG - CW WGHT, tap 1 for SSB + CW (allows CW in SSB modes). > The problem is independent of other options within this menu. It has > also been around for a long time. > > > 73 from Ian GM3SEK > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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