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WA3WSJ

K3 - Can't ship them out the door?

Hello all,

I grew tired of waiting for a K3. Called Elecraft today and they said my
August order would not be shipped out until "after January
sometime." Never heard of ordering a radio and having to wait around six
months for it - maybe longer!

I cancelled my order and asked for my deposit back. To bad Elecraft
can't ship their premier product out the door in a timely manner. And
yes I've been a big fan after building a K2, K1 and KX1.

So now I'll Xmas shop for a new rig! It won't be a K3 - to bad.

72,

Ed, WA3WSJ

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w0mu

RE: K3 - Can't ship them out the door?

Whoohoo moving up in the queue!!!

Almost every ham rig is released and publicized long before the radio hits
the market.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Edward R. Breneiser
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 12:41 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - Can't ship them out the door?

Hello all,

I grew tired of waiting for a K3. Called Elecraft today and they said my
August order would not be shipped out until "after January
sometime." Never heard of ordering a radio and having to wait around six
months for it - maybe longer!

I cancelled my order and asked for my deposit back. To bad Elecraft
can't ship their premier product out the door in a timely manner. And
yes I've been a big fan after building a K2, K1 and KX1.

So now I'll Xmas shop for a new rig! It won't be a K3 - to bad.

72,

Ed, WA3WSJ

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daleputnam

RE: K3 - Can't ship them out the door?

In reply to this post by WA3WSJ

Can I have it, Pleeeease?

--... ...--
Dale - WC7S in Wy

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Dave Martin-2

Re: K3 - Can't ship them out the door?

In reply to this post by WA3WSJ

I know how you feel, Ed. Mine was ordered in August also. And I've
sold my beautiful Japanese special with all its bells and whistles and
design flaws, so I have no HF radio at all. But it's only a hobby and
I have better things to keep me occupied during the holiday season.
The reason for the season, you know. Better read plenty of reviews on
any radio you think you might be interested in. Many of them have a
few problems, and the next firmware update won't fix most of them,
either. Good luck.

73,
Dave W5DHM

On Dec 7, 2007 2:40 PM, Edward R. Breneiser <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I grew tired of waiting for a K3...
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Joe Subich, W4TV

RE: K3 - Can't ship them out the door?

In reply to this post by w0mu

> Almost every ham rig is released and publicized long before
> the radio hits the market.

That's true to some extent but other than the Icom 7700 and
perhaps the TenTec Orion, I don't know of any that received
such extensive promotion so far in advance of delivery in
real quantity. In particular, I can't think of any where the
manufacturer encouraged significant deposits or full payment
up-front and then missed the first delivery target for those
pre-paid orders by more than 90 days.

I understand the temptation to announce a product at a large
trade show (hamfest) even though deliveries are "in the
future." I understand the desire to provide an attractive
"availability" date. I even understand problems involved in
ramping up production when the initial prototype is complete
and working. However, to accept orders (particularly with
payment at the time of order or with significant deposits)
for products that are not in production and can not possibly
be delivered in a timely manner and then fail to provide
realistic schedule updates is questionable - and a sure way
to alienate potential customers.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mike
> Fatchett W0MU
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 2:47 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 - Can't ship them out the door?
>
>
> Whoohoo moving up in the queue!!!
>
> Almost every ham rig is released and publicized long before
> the radio hits the market.
>

Craig Rairdin

RE: K3 - Can't ship them out the door?

In reply to this post by WA3WSJ

Dude! You should've sold your position in queue. You could've not only got
your deposit back but probably a little extra. As it is you just moved
everyone up in line. :-)

I'd thank you but I already have mine.

Craig
NZ0R
K3/100 #25

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Edward R. Breneiser
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 1:41 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - Can't ship them out the door?

Hello all,

I grew tired of waiting for a K3. Called Elecraft today and they said my
August order would not be shipped out until "after January
sometime." Never heard of ordering a radio and having to wait around six
months for it - maybe longer!

I cancelled my order and asked for my deposit back. To bad Elecraft
can't ship their premier product out the door in a timely manner. And
yes I've been a big fan after building a K2, K1 and KX1.

So now I'll Xmas shop for a new rig! It won't be a K3 - to bad.

72,

Ed, WA3WSJ

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srife

RE: K3 - Can't ship them out the door?

In reply to this post by Joe Subich, W4TV

Right now we are wondering how in the heck we are going to survive
this ordeal. A year from now we are all going to be saying, "yeah, there was
no doubt in my mind that Elecraft would come through", and, "gee, I sure
love my new K3". When we finally get our K3 all of this will seem so
fleeting and "really, not much of a wait after all, especially when I
consider the end result".

Chill out! Nobody is trying to screw you out of anything.

Stan Rife
W5EWA
Houston, TX
K2 S/N 4216

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 3:04 PM
To: 'Mike Fatchett W0MU'; [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 - Can't ship them out the door?

> Almost every ham rig is released and publicized long before
> the radio hits the market.

That's true to some extent but other than the Icom 7700 and
perhaps the TenTec Orion, I don't know of any that received
such extensive promotion so far in advance of delivery in
real quantity. In particular, I can't think of any where the
manufacturer encouraged significant deposits or full payment
up-front and then missed the first delivery target for those
pre-paid orders by more than 90 days.

I understand the temptation to announce a product at a large
trade show (hamfest) even though deliveries are "in the
future." I understand the desire to provide an attractive
"availability" date. I even understand problems involved in
ramping up production when the initial prototype is complete
and working. However, to accept orders (particularly with
payment at the time of order or with significant deposits)
for products that are not in production and can not possibly
be delivered in a timely manner and then fail to provide
realistic schedule updates is questionable - and a sure way
to alienate potential customers.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

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Ken Kopp

Re: K3 - Can't ship them out the door?

In reply to this post by WA3WSJ

Ed,

Of course you're gonna limit yourself to the same price range
as the K3 you had ordered in your shopping ..... a classic
"shoot yourself in the foot" move ... sad.

Regardless of the money you spend you still won't own the
unquestioned best.

I had an FT-1000D, an FT-990 and an IC-756 PRO II here
in the shack when I ordered mine, so I'm qualified to comment.

All three have been sold on eBay.

73! K0PP
K2 5665
K3 56

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dave.wilburn

RE: K3 - Can't ship them out the door?

In reply to this post by Joe Subich, W4TV

'Extensive promotion'? I have seen some adds in the magazines, and a
couple of articles in NCJ by early adopters. But nothing big
mainstream. I have not seen multi-page spreads, or any promotions you
see from other manufactures. Most of the 'promotion' has been on this
list. Promotion on other lists are based on field testers. But
regardless, thanks for the step ahead.
-

David Wilburn
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K4DGW
K2 S/N 5982

On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 16:04 -0500, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

> > Almost every ham rig is released and publicized long before
> > the radio hits the market.
>
> That's true to some extent but other than the Icom 7700 and
> perhaps the TenTec Orion, I don't know of any that received
> such extensive promotion so far in advance of delivery in
> real quantity. In particular, I can't think of any where the
> manufacturer encouraged significant deposits or full payment
> up-front and then missed the first delivery target for those
> pre-paid orders by more than 90 days.
>
> I understand the temptation to announce a product at a large
> trade show (hamfest) even though deliveries are "in the
> future." I understand the desire to provide an attractive
> "availability" date. I even understand problems involved in
> ramping up production when the initial prototype is complete
> and working. However, to accept orders (particularly with
> payment at the time of order or with significant deposits)
> for products that are not in production and can not possibly
> be delivered in a timely manner and then fail to provide
> realistic schedule updates is questionable - and a sure way
> to alienate potential customers.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [hidden email]
> > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mike
> > Fatchett W0MU
> > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 2:47 PM
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 - Can't ship them out the door?
> >
> >
> > Whoohoo moving up in the queue!!!
> >
> > Almost every ham rig is released and publicized long before
> > the radio hits the market.
> >
>
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srife

RE: K3 - Can't ship them out the door?

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Hey that just moved me up the list by one. Thanks Ed. See ya.

Stan Rife
W5EWA
Houston, TX
K2 S/N 4216

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Edward R. Breneiser
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 1:41 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - Can't ship them out the door?

Hello all,

I grew tired of waiting for a K3. Called Elecraft today and they said my
August order would not be shipped out until "after January
sometime." Never heard of ordering a radio and having to wait around six
months for it - maybe longer!

I cancelled my order and asked for my deposit back. To bad Elecraft can't
ship their premier product out the door in a timely manner. And yes I've
been a big fan after building a K2, K1 and KX1.

So now I'll Xmas shop for a new rig! It won't be a K3 - to bad.

72,

Ed, WA3WSJ

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