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This organisation is a FARCE.
Splinters from the original Royal order of the apostrophe and formed this group. I Dont Trust Them. [Elecraft] Documentation corrections Simon Brown (HB9DRV) simon at hb9drv.ch Mon Dec 10 10:15:49 EST 2007 Previous message: [Elecraft] Documentation corrections Next message: [Elecraft] Documentation corrections The Apostrophe Protection Society 23 Vauxhall Road, Boston, Lincs. PE21 0JB United Kingdom Simon Brown, HB9DRV _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In a recent message, Don Rasmussen <[hidden email]> wrote ...
>This organisation is a FARCE. > >Splinters from the original Royal order of the >apostrophe and formed this group. > >I Dont Trust Them. What's a 'Dont', Don? I've never gotten used to these American words. 73 -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK ------ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I heard they were associated with Skull & Bones, and were working
towards a new world order.... - David Wilburn [hidden email] K4DGW K2 S/N 5982 On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 08:06 -0800, Don Rasmussen wrote: > This organisation is a FARCE. > > Splinters from the original Royal order of the > apostrophe and formed this group. > > I Dont Trust Them. > > [Elecraft] Documentation corrections > Simon Brown (HB9DRV) simon at hb9drv.ch > Mon Dec 10 10:15:49 EST 2007 > > Previous message: [Elecraft] Documentation corrections > > Next message: [Elecraft] Documentation corrections > The Apostrophe Protection Society > 23 Vauxhall Road, Boston, Lincs. PE21 0JB > United Kingdom > > Simon Brown, HB9DRV > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by David Pratt-2
My ex-wife was a Cambridge graduate, and would never condone the
improper use of apostrophes. If I were to quote her, it is not preservation that is important, but proper adherence to the "Queen's English". We here in the US have taken many liberties over the years - beginning with the thing about the Boston Tea event - however, I do believe that saving a keystroke to modify "Don't" to "Dont" is a simplification that we can all do without - I just wonder how many apostrophes were preserved in this correspondence - where do they collect all those preserved apostrophes?? :-) 73, Don W3FPR David Pratt wrote: > In a recent message, Don Rasmussen <[hidden email]> wrote ... >> This organisation is a FARCE. >> >> Splinters from the original Royal order of the >> apostrophe and formed this group. >> >> I Dont Trust Them. > > What's a 'Dont', Don? I've never gotten used to these American words. > > 73 Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> without - I just wonder how many apostrophes were preserved in this > correspondence - where do they collect all those preserved apostrophes?? :-) In the apostrophe bucket, which is next to the bit bucket, unless of course they expect an inspection, and then both buckets are behind the door. Of course there are some careless typists, like myself you type don;t for don't, since it saves a key-stroke and most folks catch the meaning. Perhaps we need a macro to force the computer keyboard to act as a mill...and then have the swing mod in the keyer. 73, k3hrn Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/ Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Don Wilhelm wrote:
> We here in the US have taken many liberties over the years - beginning > with the thing about the Boston Tea event - however, I do believe that > saving a keystroke to modify "Don't" to "Dont" is a simplification that > we can all do without - I just wonder how many apostrophes were > preserved in this correspondence - where do they collect all those > preserved apostrophes?? :-) The apostrophe is an aberration in the English language, "up with which I wish I did not have to put." [Apologies to Winston for the liberty of a misquote]. We use it for so many different things and meanings that it gets misused often ... or usually. If it can't be said with 26 letters and 10 digits, maybe it doesnt need to be said that way, or maybe we need a new word. In fact, I have a modest example ... "apostrification" [n. Am. English, from the Old Fred] 1. The unnecessary usage of a really small punctuation mark in places where it is not required; 2. The foundation for formation of irrelevant organizations whose goal is to preserve a linguistic irrelevancy, not to be confused with the Second Class Operators Club whose members often ignore it. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2008 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 08 - www.cqp.org _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Fred Jensen wrote:
> The apostrophe is an aberration in the English language, "up with which I > wish I did not have to put." [Apologies to Winston for the liberty of a > misquote]. We use it for so many different things and meanings that it > gets misused often ... or usually. If it can't be said with 26 letters > and 10 digits, maybe it doesnt need to be said that way, or maybe we need > a new word. -------------------------------------------------------- Perhaps it's a good thing that use can be made of Upper and Lower case letters to change the meaning of a word if that's the objective, for example a 'bird' is a feathered beastie while a 'Bird' is quite a different entity - but I'll refrain from further comment. Please don't quote me to my English cousins but it's been claimed by English academics that the best English is or was spoken in Scotland, in the region of the Black Isle so named because of the large number of witches who lived there. Their written spells made full use of the apostrophe, so be warned if it's to be thought of as an aberration! 73, Geoff GM4ESD _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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You guys must be board, what in the world does this have to do with
Elecraft? I'll just be another unsubscirber added to the list. 73, Rich - N5ZC Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: > Fred Jensen wrote: > >> The apostrophe is an aberration in the English language, "up with >> which I wish I did not have to put." [Apologies to Winston for the >> liberty of a misquote]. We use it for so many different things and >> meanings that it gets misused often ... or usually. If it can't be >> said with 26 letters and 10 digits, maybe it doesnt need to be said >> that way, or maybe we need a new word. > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > Perhaps it's a good thing that use can be made of Upper and Lower case > letters to change the meaning of a word if that's the objective, for > example a 'bird' is a feathered beastie while a 'Bird' is quite a > different entity - but I'll refrain from further comment. Please don't > quote me to my English cousins but it's been claimed by English > academics that the best English is or was spoken in Scotland, in the > region of the Black Isle so named because of the large number of > witches who lived there. Their written spells made full use of the > apostrophe, so be warned if it's to be thought of as an aberration! > > 73, > Geoff > GM4ESD > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In a recent message, Richard Thorne <[hidden email]> wrote ...
>You guys must be board, what in the world does this have to do with >Elecraft? Because there are boards in all the Elecraft products. But we are all feeling bored waiting for our K3s to arrive. 73 -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK ------ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hi All,
Now, you do have to admit that Fred has something of a point here. Rarely does a missing apostrophe leave the reader completely confused as to the meaning. I tend to be somewhat fanatical about the english language myself, but I do sympathize with his position. I am somewhat anal about usage of the comma. My english teachers drummed "comma fault" into my head to the point where I often get obsessive about re-reading things to be sure I haven't committed the "ultimate sin" and left out a comma. I'm sure it causes me to put commas into a sentence that need not be there. It doesn't surprise me that the brits have a society to preserve the apostrophe. They claim full rights and privileges over the language, and are often pretty critical of how we have bastardized the language here in the colonies. Unfortunately, in many cases they are right. But, as I often tell my brit friends, "You are the masters of excess!" Look at all those vowels they insert which are completely unnecessary in my opinion. "Labour" instead of "Labor", "honour" instead of "honor", etc. It's beyond me why they don't take all those unnecessary vowels and, in the interest of conservation and good will, donate them to some place like Poland where vowels are sorely lacking! Another place in need is Wales. Anyway, back to Fred's problem. I think a compromise is in order, and I have a suggestion--one with which probably nobody will be happy. But here it is anyway. If you truly feel that inserting an apostrophe midstream in a word like "don't" is a pain in the neck, why not just wait until your message is finished and tack on a bunch of apostrophes at the end. Then the reader, if so inclined, can go back and insert them as necessary. After all, if they know when one is missing, then they will know where to put them! But, in fairness, if you opt to do it this way, you need to make sure you put just the correct number of apostrophes at the end. After all, you don't want to drive people nuts trying to find where to put some extra apostrophe you might have tacked on (or do you)! It also helps to assure us that you really did know better, and just didn't want to take the time to insert them along the way. It sort of makes a game out of it. Actually, it's already a game of sorts trying to interpret some of these emails with all the missing or misspelled words, etc. But this gives the game a little structure. What do you think? Dave W7AQK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Jensen" <[hidden email]> To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Come on Simon... > The apostrophe is an aberration in the English language, "up with which I > wish I did not have to put." [Apologies to Winston for the liberty of a > misquote]. We use it for so many different things and meanings that it > gets misused often ... or usually. If it can't be said with 26 letters > and 10 digits, maybe it doesnt need to be said that way, or maybe we need > a new word. In fact, I have a modest example ... > > "apostrification" [n. Am. English, from the Old Fred] 1. The unnecessary > usage of a really small punctuation mark in places where it is not > required; 2. The foundation for formation of irrelevant organizations > whose goal is to preserve a linguistic irrelevancy, not to be confused > with the Second Class Operators Club whose members often ignore it. > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW > - Northern California Contest Club > - CU in the 2008 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 08 > - www.cqp.org > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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