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Anyone got any inside information on wether we will be able to buy the small "Iambic Key" we have seen on the recent K3 videos - Seperatley from the radio itself when the launch is finally underway ? Not sure if that particular key would work with other rigs etc, but if it could be adapted, I for one would be interested in a purchase.. So anyone out there got solid answers to the above questions ? 73's Andy GM0NWI [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I remember Wayne taking a lot of interest in the Porta Paddle[1] which
was on sale at Pacificon last year. Now I know what we was thinking ;) ~iain / N6ML [1] http://www.americanmorse.com/portapaddle.htm On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Andy - GM0NWI <[hidden email]> wrote: > Guy's.. > > Anyone got any inside information on wether we will be able to buy the small > "Iambic Key" we have seen on the recent K3 videos - Seperatley from the > radio itself when the launch is finally underway ? > > Not sure if that particular key would work with other rigs etc, but if it > could be adapted, I for one would be interested in a purchase.. > > So anyone out there got solid answers to the above questions ? > > 73's > Andy > GM0NWI [hidden email] > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I dont know why manufacturers just dont install the electronics for a touch paddle. A touch paddle is the most precise way of sending CW. No mechanical paddles that I have come across yet can match a touch key for precision fast CW. While the mechanical contraptions from even the best makers such as Begali are good, they are still mechanical devices with numerous timing issues that vary with age and temperature. It would have been nice if the KX3 had a touch paddle option, it would have been much simpler option in my view. 73 John --- On Sat, 5/21/11, iain macdonnell - N6ML <[hidden email]> wrote: > From: iain macdonnell - N6ML <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 External Key ... > To: "Andy - GM0NWI" <[hidden email]> > Cc: [hidden email] > Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 5:04 PM > I remember Wayne taking a lot of > interest in the Porta Paddle[1] which > was on sale at Pacificon last year. Now I know what we was > thinking ;) > > ~iain / N6ML > > > [1] http://www.americanmorse.com/portapaddle.htm > > > On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Andy - GM0NWI > <[hidden email]> > wrote: > > Guy's.. > > > > Anyone got any inside information on wether we will be > able to buy the small > > "Iambic Key" we have seen on the recent K3 videos - > Seperatley from the > > radio itself when the launch is finally underway ? > > > > Not sure if that particular key would work with other > rigs etc, but if it > > could be adapted, I for one would be interested in a > purchase.. > > > > So anyone out there got solid answers to the above > questions ? > > > > 73's > > Andy > > GM0NWI > [hidden email] > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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> I dont know why manufacturers just dont install the electronics for > a touch paddle. For the very same reason that computer manufacturers do not install capacitive or touch screen (no motion) keyboards. Most CW users prefer the mechanical feedback of a lever operated paddle that shows *some* degree of resistance with the initial "touch" and a hard "stop" when the contact is closed. This is similar to the best keyboards that show an initial mechanical resistance when the key is first pressed, a "break over point" at which the back pressure is substantially reduced followed by a hard "stop" when the key reaches the end of its travel. For a touch typist, a capacitive or touch screen keyboard is a nightmare just as a capacitive paddle is painful for most CW operators. Both are subject to significant errors since the best operators tend to make slight contact with the keys at all times. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/21/2011 8:42 PM, juergen wrote: > Hi > > I dont know why manufacturers just dont install the electronics for > atouch paddle. > > A touch paddle is the most precise way of sending CW. No mechanical paddles that I have come across yet can match a touch key for precision fast CW. While the mechanical contraptions from even the best makers such as Begali are good, they are still mechanical devices with numerous timing issues that vary with age and temperature. > > It would have been nice if the KX3 had a touch paddle option, it > would have been much simpler option in my view. > 73 > John > > --- On Sat, 5/21/11, iain macdonnell - N6ML<[hidden email]> wrote: > >> From: iain macdonnell - N6ML<[hidden email]> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 External Key ... >> To: "Andy - GM0NWI"<[hidden email]> >> Cc: [hidden email] >> Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 5:04 PM >> I remember Wayne taking a lot of >> interest in the Porta Paddle[1] which >> was on sale at Pacificon last year. Now I know what we was >> thinking ;) >> >> ~iain / N6ML >> >> >> [1] http://www.americanmorse.com/portapaddle.htm >> >> >> On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Andy - GM0NWI >> <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >>> Guy's.. >>> >>> Anyone got any inside information on wether we will be >> able to buy the small >>> "Iambic Key" we have seen on the recent K3 videos - >> Seperatley from the >>> radio itself when the launch is finally underway ? >>> >>> Not sure if that particular key would work with other >> rigs etc, but if it >>> could be adapted, I for one would be interested in a >> purchase.. >>> >>> So anyone out there got solid answers to the above >> questions ? >>> >>> 73's >>> Andy >>> GM0NWI >> [hidden email] >>> >>> >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Not true. Check out what competitors at the High Speed Telegraphy Championships use for sending. All paddles are mechanical and most use single lever (non-iambic). Barry W2UP on this list was previously a competitor in 2007 and 2009. 73, Bill W4ZV |
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On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 8:42 PM, juergen <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I dont know why manufacturers just dont install the electronics for a touch > paddle. > Tactile feedback can be important. Imagine typing on a computer with a membrane (chiclet style) keyboard -- like the old Sinclair 1000. It could be done but not sure if I'd want to do it. --Andrew, NV1B ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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How many remember inputing a program with the front panel switches on your
wirewrapped computers? I am so happy that tape came along to end that tedious procedure. Kevin. KD5ONS On Sat, 21 May 2011 19:38:33 -0700, Andrew Moore <[hidden email]> wrote: > On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 8:42 PM, juergen <[hidden email]> wrote: > > >> I dont know why manufacturers just dont install the electronics for a >> touch >> paddle. >> > > Tactile feedback can be important. Imagine typing on a computer with a > membrane (chiclet style) keyboard -- like the old Sinclair 1000. It > could be > done but not sure if I'd want to do it. > > --Andrew, NV1B Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire <[hidden email]> wrote:
> ...just to boot it far enough to read the paper tape and then the paper > tape would jam... Ah yes! Or how about getting your cards all stacked and ready to try a compile only to drop the whole damn deck and have half of them slide under the filing cabinet. Tony KT0NY ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Or walking across campus with a box of cards when all of a sudden you slip
on the ice and they blow into a snowbank. I was glad my mother was nowhere around because I used my father's DI language instruction fluently :) Luckily it was so cold the snow was dry so I could blow most of them off. Sorting soggy punch cards is no fun. Kevin. KD5ONS On Sat, 21 May 2011 20:09:48 -0700, Tony Estep <[hidden email]> wrote: > On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> ...just to boot it far enough to read the paper tape and then the paper >> tape would jam... > > > Ah yes! Or how about getting your cards all stacked and ready to try a > compile only to drop the whole damn deck and have half of them slide > under > the filing cabinet. > > Tony KT0NY Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hash: SHA1 I've still got mine, along with the 16K memory module. > Tactile feedback can be important. Imagine typing on a computer with a > membrane (chiclet style) keyboard -- like the old Sinclair 1000. It could be > done but not sure if I'd want to do it. > > --Andrew, NV1B - -- R. Kevin Stover ACØH -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN2QxIAAoJEAu8BkU0m9MndWoH/jmSEIjrnxSWrpp4tjX12PdD 82rjsyFegAyXnB0VtUWkMKWtSC0LkkGLc7IV/Gg7ebaxUDHaAstzJLbuUKCTNk6i t5iTPimTqs+QSCjZogtyh4o+Bvpoh+YquPTXZJQwIZy/aqlmSYKJMFi7HiKKEd0W fGylyktgB8fqPZ5Ynv53A6lZw/G8dXhe1wkx5eC+C/LJCVjTSxC9lV+1LncSyFOb FBAovKgoMG9k0z/7y8uTyyJ2IW19SrTXR/i6ZCi+PrEUpi2q9t82cvr8NX6wnIdi NoAC4wjR1YVd9MvEwb8CPORtV2KxzH7SiTcr8Ksh5a704HtemtJDFRLJNnUstaU= =u57H -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hash: SHA1 Or walking 500 yards across campus from the engineering building to the admin building where the mainframe was located, to get the printed "output" of your latest attempt at FORTRAN greatness? I really learned to hate the IBM 3270 terminal. On 5/21/2011 10:37 PM, Kevin Rock wrote: > Or walking across campus with a box of cards when all of a sudden you slip > on the ice and they blow into a snowbank. I was glad my mother was > nowhere around because I used my father's DI language instruction fluently > :) Luckily it was so cold the snow was dry so I could blow most of them > off. Sorting soggy punch cards is no fun. > Kevin. KD5ONS > > > > On Sat, 21 May 2011 20:09:48 -0700, Tony Estep <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> ...just to boot it far enough to read the paper tape and then the paper >>> tape would jam... >> >> >> Ah yes! Or how about getting your cards all stacked and ready to try a >> compile only to drop the whole damn deck and have half of them slide >> under >> the filing cabinet. >> >> Tony KT0NY > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > R. Kevin Stover ACØH -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN2Q1lAAoJEAu8BkU0m9MnkYUH/1jiEZNguhsDsdnAtRKjhRup 1/IdKJR+f9cZ4oWinmyNfBhf303P4M+EqGzowRbTxxWLx5kuHs7BGGzrGeHJVc5i fVsZ9v3MILReOK1AM8RJvHsj8ZgNnX3Hp+cGE7yIS+k0iOS/AonOcL+ks2k1Zfqy zO5oT6QvhOprKNYjZ2T0TNBut+Q+Wujt+TGP0BwmLC4ZfbSx1f2mTVl/Cb0VrKA4 QMJR8j+bjAMOloz08Oe5fcYKws7P/MgkZKodGRLBI/Y67ei2iCm+DD4FfQ/tE+bq 0ZOmq306iVGWgmCEfTvbPXIzdtbb0vPja4Io7GholiV6wVyufxvVX81KyDtp0n8= =f/Rp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I was already working for Hughes when they offered a Fortran course. The terminals and printer were in Tucson but the mainframe was in California. Our jobs were run after hours and we had to wait until the next morning for our printout to find the inevitable mistakes.
I was between wives so I started dating a keypunch girl and she punched and verified my cards, while the other guys had to do their own. On the job training did have its rewards. --- On Sun, 5/22/11, R. Kevin Stover <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Or walking 500 yards across campus from the engineering > building to the > admin building where the mainframe was located, to get the > printed > "output" of your latest attempt at FORTRAN greatness? > > I really learned to hate the IBM 3270 terminal.sl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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