K3 Feature Request - Stopping CW Memory Playback with PTT

[Andy Wood]

I have recently entered into the world of CW and participated in my first contest using both SSB and CW modes. I noticed that you cannot stop the CW memory playback by activating the PTT (either from a microphone attached to the front panel or a footswitch plugged in the rear). It could only be stopped by touching the paddle.

Could this be implemented in a future firmware version? There is also the possibility that there may be a very good reason not to.

Andy  VK4KY

[Bob Naumann W5OV]

The paddle is the most logical device to use to stop the CW from the radio's
memories.

In a contest, you should probably be using the CW sending capability of your
logging program instead of the radio's memories as it most likely allows
hitting of the Esc key on your keyboard to stop the CW which I'm sure you'd
find more convenient.

73,

Bob W5OV



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Andy Wood
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:57 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Feature Request - Stopping CW Memory Playback with
PTT


I have recently entered into the world of CW and participated in my first
contest using both SSB and CW modes. I noticed that you cannot stop the CW
memory playback by activating the PTT (either from a microphone attached to
the front panel or a footswitch plugged in the rear). It could only be
stopped by touching the paddle.

Could this be implemented in a future firmware version? There is also the
possibility that there may be a very good reason not to.

Andy  VK4KY



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[Brett Howard]

While this is true I still feel that any KEY_IN source be it PTT or VOX
or the paddles it should interrupt the memory keyer.

~Brett (N7MG)

On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 02:53 -0500, Bob Naumann wrote:

> The paddle is the most logical device to use to stop the CW from the radio's
> memories.
>
> In a contest, you should probably be using the CW sending capability of your
> logging program instead of the radio's memories as it most likely allows
> hitting of the Esc key on your keyboard to stop the CW which I'm sure you'd
> find more convenient.
>
> 73,
>
> Bob W5OV
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Andy Wood
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:57 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Feature Request - Stopping CW Memory Playback with
> PTT
>
>
> I have recently entered into the world of CW and participated in my first
> contest using both SSB and CW modes. I noticed that you cannot stop the CW
> memory playback by activating the PTT (either from a microphone attached to
> the front panel or a footswitch plugged in the rear). It could only be
> stopped by touching the paddle.
>
> Could this be implemented in a future firmware version? There is also the
> possibility that there may be a very good reason not to.
>
> Andy  VK4KY
>
>
>

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[Gary Gregory]

Andy,

If tapping the Footswitch (PTT) stops transmitting of the DVR in SSB...I
don't see why it should be any different for CW either.

I think I would have difficulty in "learning" to use software (keyboard
keys) to stop transmitting.

Although I don't like to use VOX as I tend to mess up too often, if VOX was
being used then maybe it too should be used to stop transmitting.

The DVR in a contest is great and although I use N1MM most of the time I
seldom use the function keys in the software.

Obviously I am not a great contester, but I do enjoy the challenges it
throws up and it certainly has helped me improve my general operating
procedures and practices. I think it is fair to say it has knocked off a few
bad habits I think I had gotten into.

I think that puts me in your camp Andy?

73's
Gary

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Brett Howard <[hidden email]>wrote:

> While this is true I still feel that any KEY_IN source be it PTT or VOX
> or the paddles it should interrupt the memory keyer.
>
> ~Brett (N7MG)
>
> On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 02:53 -0500, Bob Naumann wrote:
> > The paddle is the most logical device to use to stop the CW from the
> radio's
> > memories.
> >
> > In a contest, you should probably be using the CW sending capability of
> your
> > logging program instead of the radio's memories as it most likely allows
> > hitting of the Esc key on your keyboard to stop the CW which I'm sure
> you'd
> > find more convenient.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Bob W5OV
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [hidden email]
> > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Andy Wood
> > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:57 PM
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Feature Request - Stopping CW Memory Playback with
> > PTT
> >
> >
> > I have recently entered into the world of CW and participated in my first
> > contest using both SSB and CW modes. I noticed that you cannot stop the
> CW
> > memory playback by activating the PTT (either from a microphone attached
> to
> > the front panel or a footswitch plugged in the rear). It could only be
> > stopped by touching the paddle.
> >
> > Could this be implemented in a future firmware version? There is also the
> > possibility that there may be a very good reason not to.
> >
> > Andy  VK4KY
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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[W8JI]

> While this is true I still feel that any KEY_IN source be it PTT or VOX
> or the paddles it should interrupt the memory keyer.

Makes total sense to me. Any call for another transmission source, VOX, PTT,
external key line input, or paddles, should halt automatic transmissions.

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[Bob Naumann W5OV]

Gary,

 

You should use the ability in N1MM to control the K3 DVR. I think I might
have bought the K3 to get this capability alone.

 

Here are the key definitions to use in N1MM to access the 4 K3 DVR memories:

F1 CQ,{CATA1ASC K31;SWT21;}
F2 Exch,{CATA1ASC K31;SWT31;}
F3 Thanks!,{CATA1ASC K31;SWT35;}
F4 {MYCALL},{CATA1ASC K31;SWT39;}

See more at Iain N6ML's website here:

http://www.dseven.org/ar/n1mm-kdvr3



Then, whether you are sending CW or SSB, it's the same keys on the keyboard
regardless of mode.

 

It will help your contest scores greatly.

 

73,

 

Bob W5OV

 

 

From: Gary Gregory [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 4:44 AM
To: Brett Howard
Cc: Bob Naumann; [hidden email]; Andy Wood
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Feature Request - Stopping CW Memory Playback
with PTT

 

Andy,

If tapping the Footswitch (PTT) stops transmitting of the DVR in SSB...I
don't see why it should be any different for CW either.

I think I would have difficulty in "learning" to use software (keyboard
keys) to stop transmitting.

Although I don't like to use VOX as I tend to mess up too often, if VOX was
being used then maybe it too should be used to stop transmitting.

The DVR in a contest is great and although I use N1MM most of the time I
seldom use the function keys in the software.

Obviously I am not a great contester, but I do enjoy the challenges it
throws up and it certainly has helped me improve my general operating
procedures and practices. I think it is fair to say it has knocked off a few
bad habits I think I had gotten into.

I think that puts me in your camp Andy?

73's
Gary

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Brett Howard <[hidden email]>
wrote:

While this is true I still feel that any KEY_IN source be it PTT or VOX
or the paddles it should interrupt the memory keyer.

~Brett (N7MG)


On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 02:53 -0500, Bob Naumann wrote:
> The paddle is the most logical device to use to stop the CW from the
radio's
> memories.
>
> In a contest, you should probably be using the CW sending capability of
your
> logging program instead of the radio's memories as it most likely allows
> hitting of the Esc key on your keyboard to stop the CW which I'm sure
you'd

> find more convenient.
>
> 73,
>
> Bob W5OV
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Andy Wood
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:57 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Feature Request - Stopping CW Memory Playback with
> PTT
>
>
> I have recently entered into the world of CW and participated in my first
> contest using both SSB and CW modes. I noticed that you cannot stop the CW
> memory playback by activating the PTT (either from a microphone attached

to

> the front panel or a footswitch plugged in the rear). It could only be
> stopped by touching the paddle.
>
> Could this be implemented in a future firmware version? There is also the
> possibility that there may be a very good reason not to.
>
> Andy  VK4KY
>
>
>

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[Bruce McLaughlin-2]

On my K-3 touching the dit paddle will interrupt transmission of a CW
message from memory.  It reminds me quite a bit of the coastal stations when
they used to send CW.  Stations such as WCC would be sending their ID tapes
and all of a sudden you heard a single dit and the tape would stop.  The
operator would send that dit when he heard a ship calling.  My K-3 works in
much the same fashion.  If I am using QSK while sending a CW message from
memory if IE or anything all I need to do is touch the dit paddle and my
transmission stops.

Bruce-W8FU

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[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Tom W8JI
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 6:41 AM
To: Brett Howard; Bob Naumann
Cc: [hidden email]; 'Andy Wood'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Feature Request - Stopping CW Memory Playback
with PTT


> While this is true I still feel that any KEY_IN source be it PTT or VOX
> or the paddles it should interrupt the memory keyer.

Makes total sense to me. Any call for another transmission source, VOX, PTT,

external key line input, or paddles, should halt automatic transmissions.

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