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K3: Firmware 4.48 release - stable, in use?

John K3TN
I work in Internet security and have an ingrained bias against using any beta software. However, I use the HRD software that occasionally zaps my K3 AGC settings, and putting a P3 inline seems to have exacerbated the problem. Not fun when AGC gets turned off on strong signals...

It looks like beta version 4.48 of the K3 firmware should help and it seems to have been out for quite some time. Any issues with moving to 4.48?

Thanks, John K3TN
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Re: K3: Firmware 4.48 release - stable, in use?

Win Kriegl DK9IP/KH7CD
John,

we have used 3 K3s on FW 4.48 during Russian DX Contest (SO2R) and WPX
SSB (V55V M/2) with some 10.000 QSOs without any issues concerning the
firmware.

73 Win DK9IP


Am 29.03.2012 13:19, schrieb John K3TN:

> I work in Internet security and have an ingrained bias against using any beta
> software. However, I use the HRD software that occasionally zaps my K3 AGC
> settings, and putting a P3 inline seems to have exacerbated the problem. Not
> fun when AGC gets turned off on strong signals...
>
> It looks like beta version 4.48 of the K3 firmware should help and it seems
> to have been out for quite some time. Any issues with moving to 4.48?
>
> Thanks, John K3TN
>
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Re: K3: Firmware 4.48 release - stable, in use?

N5GE-2
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No problems that I'm aware of and I've used it since it was beta.

I'm a retired IT developer so I understand your feelings about beta stuff, but
I've never had a problem with the K3 betas.  I just make sure I save the current
configuration of the K3 before updating the firmware.

Regarding HRD, I used to use it, but found that it was causing a lot of trouble
with the K3.  There have been several threads here regarding the K3, mostly
regarding what you mentioned and it seems that HRD poles the K3 so fast that it
causes trouble in the areas you mentioned.  I've written my own application for
the K3 and use events to get rig state rather than polling.

73,

Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member

"Farmers rotate crops to keep their land strong.
Voters can keep THEIR LAND STRONG by rotating
politicians at the ballot box each term."
-- Otis Mukinfus --
http://www.otismukinfus.com


On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 04:19:52 -0700 (PDT), John K3TN <[hidden email]> wrote:

>I work in Internet security and have an ingrained bias against using any beta
>software. However, I use the HRD software that occasionally zaps my K3 AGC
>settings, and putting a P3 inline seems to have exacerbated the problem. Not
>fun when AGC gets turned off on strong signals...
>
>It looks like beta version 4.48 of the K3 firmware should help and it seems
>to have been out for quite some time. Any issues with moving to 4.48?
>
>Thanks, John K3TN

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Re: K3: Firmware 4.48 release - stable, in use?

Dave New, N8SBE
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Use Larry's N8LP LP-Bridge to intermediate:
http://www.telepostinc.com/LPB.html

I had been using it prior to getting my P3, so I could share HRD or N1MM
with the PowerSDR/IF program and Larry's LP-Pan, and never had any AGC
issues with the K3.

When I dropped usage of Larry's LP-Pan for the P3, I tried running HRD
'bare' with the K3, and found pretty quickly that was a no-go.

I found that if I launch LP-Bridge first, then connect HRD via
LP-Bridge, I haven't had any issues.  LP-Bridge caches the K3 state and
hands it out to all comers, including HRD.  Apparently, LP-Bridge is not
fazed by HRD's manhandling.

I tried to discuss HRD's fast polling rate on a local repeater one day
after week, and was essentially told to go pound sand.  There seems to
be a *lot* of HRD apologists out there...

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Firmware 4.48 release - stable, in use?
> From: N5GE <[hidden email]>
> Date: Thu, March 29, 2012 8:19 am
> To: John K3TN <[hidden email]>
> Cc: [hidden email]
>
>
> No problems that I'm aware of and I've used it since it was beta.
>
> I'm a retired IT developer so I understand your feelings about beta stuff, but
> I've never had a problem with the K3 betas.  I just make sure I save the current
> configuration of the K3 before updating the firmware.
>
> Regarding HRD, I used to use it, but found that it was causing a lot of trouble
> with the K3.  There have been several threads here regarding the K3, mostly
> regarding what you mentioned and it seems that HRD poles the K3 so fast that it
> causes trouble in the areas you mentioned.  I've written my own application for
> the K3 and use events to get rig state rather than polling.
>
> 73,
>
> Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
> ARRL Lifetime Member
> QCWA Lifetime Member
>
> "Farmers rotate crops to keep their land strong.
> Voters can keep THEIR LAND STRONG by rotating
> politicians at the ballot box each term."
> -- Otis Mukinfus --
> http://www.otismukinfus.com
>
>
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 04:19:52 -0700 (PDT), John K3TN <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> >I work in Internet security and have an ingrained bias against using any beta
> >software. However, I use the HRD software that occasionally zaps my K3 AGC
> >settings, and putting a P3 inline seems to have exacerbated the problem. Not
> >fun when AGC gets turned off on strong signals...
> >
> >It looks like beta version 4.48 of the K3 firmware should help and it seems
> >to have been out for quite some time. Any issues with moving to 4.48?
> >
> >Thanks, John K3TN
>
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Re: K3: Firmware 4.48 release - stable, in use?

Ian Kahn, KM4IK
All,

I know, from talking to Rick Ruhl (W4PC), that the new ownership of HRD
holds an interest in solving this issue.  If we, as a collective, can
provide them with some empirical evidence of this issue, I know it will go
a long way toward getting a resolution.  Let's all be part of the solution
instead of part of the problem.

73,

Ian
 Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
[hidden email]
K3 #281, P3 #688


On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Dave New, N8SBE <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Use Larry's N8LP LP-Bridge to intermediate:
> http://www.telepostinc.com/LPB.html
>
> I had been using it prior to getting my P3, so I could share HRD or N1MM
> with the PowerSDR/IF program and Larry's LP-Pan, and never had any AGC
> issues with the K3.
>
> When I dropped usage of Larry's LP-Pan for the P3, I tried running HRD
> 'bare' with the K3, and found pretty quickly that was a no-go.
>
> I found that if I launch LP-Bridge first, then connect HRD via
> LP-Bridge, I haven't had any issues.  LP-Bridge caches the K3 state and
> hands it out to all comers, including HRD.  Apparently, LP-Bridge is not
> fazed by HRD's manhandling.
>
> I tried to discuss HRD's fast polling rate on a local repeater one day
> after week, and was essentially told to go pound sand.  There seems to
> be a *lot* of HRD apologists out there...
>
> 73,
>
> -- Dave, N8SBE
>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Firmware 4.48 release - stable, in use?
> > From: N5GE <[hidden email]>
> > Date: Thu, March 29, 2012 8:19 am
> > To: John K3TN <[hidden email]>
> > Cc: [hidden email]
> >
> >
> > No problems that I'm aware of and I've used it since it was beta.
> >
> > I'm a retired IT developer so I understand your feelings about beta
> stuff, but
> > I've never had a problem with the K3 betas.  I just make sure I save the
> current
> > configuration of the K3 before updating the firmware.
> >
> > Regarding HRD, I used to use it, but found that it was causing a lot of
> trouble
> > with the K3.  There have been several threads here regarding the K3,
> mostly
> > regarding what you mentioned and it seems that HRD poles the K3 so fast
> that it
> > causes trouble in the areas you mentioned.  I've written my own
> application for
> > the K3 and use events to get rig state rather than polling.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
> > ARRL Lifetime Member
> > QCWA Lifetime Member
> >
> > "Farmers rotate crops to keep their land strong.
> > Voters can keep THEIR LAND STRONG by rotating
> > politicians at the ballot box each term."
> > -- Otis Mukinfus --
> > http://www.otismukinfus.com
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 04:19:52 -0700 (PDT), John K3TN <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> > >I work in Internet security and have an ingrained bias against using
> any beta
> > >software. However, I use the HRD software that occasionally zaps my K3
> AGC
> > >settings, and putting a P3 inline seems to have exacerbated the
> problem. Not
> > >fun when AGC gets turned off on strong signals...
> > >
> > >It looks like beta version 4.48 of the K3 firmware should help and it
> seems
> > >to have been out for quite some time. Any issues with moving to 4.48?
> > >
> > >Thanks, John K3TN
> >
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Re: K3: Firmware 4.48 release - stable, in use?

WB4SON
The latest firmware beta fixed my AGC issue with HRD.  According to the
notes, Elecraft made it more difficult for a "bad" command to accidentally
disable the AGC.  It appears that HRD was hammering the serial port quite a
bit and that was sometimes resulting in a defective message that tripped
the AGC.

While tinkering with the HRD settings (in terms of poll rate) helped reduce
the problem, it never entirely went away until the K3 firmware update fixed
it once and for all.

I highly recommend updating to 4.48 before you blow you your
speaker/headphones/ears.

73, Bob, WB4SON
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Re: K3: Firmware 4.48 release - stable, in use?

Joe Subich, W4TV-4

> While tinkering with the HRD settings (in terms of poll rate) helped
> reduce the problem, it never entirely went away until the K3
> firmware update fixed it once and for all.

HRD's rig control component was very poorly written.  I gave Rick and
other involved persons specific documentation of HRD sending the same
command multiple times less than 1 msec apart as well as serial logs
showing continuous serial transmission even when the polling rate was
set longer than 500 msec.

I have not had time to evaluate the 5.1 "fixes" but I suspect Rick will
need to do a nearly complete rewrite of the serial port/CAT controls if
the problems are to be fixed.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 3/29/2012 1:23 PM, Bob wrote:

> The latest firmware beta fixed my AGC issue with HRD.  According to the
> notes, Elecraft made it more difficult for a "bad" command to accidentally
> disable the AGC.  It appears that HRD was hammering the serial port quite a
> bit and that was sometimes resulting in a defective message that tripped
> the AGC.
>
> While tinkering with the HRD settings (in terms of poll rate) helped reduce
> the problem, it never entirely went away until the K3 firmware update fixed
> it once and for all.
>
> I highly recommend updating to 4.48 before you blow you your
> speaker/headphones/ears.
>
> 73, Bob, WB4SON
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Re: K3: Firmware 4.48 release - stable, in use?

Dave New, N8SBE
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Aside from the AGC issue, I found that I couldn't navigate the config
menus from the K3 front panel while HRD was running.

It was hammering the rig so hard that it was hanging the config menu
system.  As soon as I unplugged the cable, I got control of the menus
back.  This was very repeatable.

Again, I never experienced this issue when using LP-Bridge to
intermediate.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Firmware 4.48 release - stable, in use?
> From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[hidden email]>
> Date: Thu, March 29, 2012 3:26 pm
> To: Bob <[hidden email]>, Elecraft Reflector
> <[hidden email]>,  [hidden email]
>
>
> > While tinkering with the HRD settings (in terms of poll rate) helped
> > reduce the problem, it never entirely went away until the K3
> > firmware update fixed it once and for all.
>
> HRD's rig control component was very poorly written.  I gave Rick and
> other involved persons specific documentation of HRD sending the same
> command multiple times less than 1 msec apart as well as serial logs
> showing continuous serial transmission even when the polling rate was
> set longer than 500 msec.
>
> I have not had time to evaluate the 5.1 "fixes" but I suspect Rick will
> need to do a nearly complete rewrite of the serial port/CAT controls if
> the problems are to be fixed.
>
> 73,
>
>     ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 3/29/2012 1:23 PM, Bob wrote:
> > The latest firmware beta fixed my AGC issue with HRD.  According to the
> > notes, Elecraft made it more difficult for a "bad" command to accidentally
> > disable the AGC.  It appears that HRD was hammering the serial port quite a
> > bit and that was sometimes resulting in a defective message that tripped
> > the AGC.
> >
> > While tinkering with the HRD settings (in terms of poll rate) helped reduce
> > the problem, it never entirely went away until the K3 firmware update fixed
> > it once and for all.
> >
> > I highly recommend updating to 4.48 before you blow you your
> > speaker/headphones/ears.
> >
> > 73, Bob, WB4SON
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Re: K3: Firmware 4.48 release - stable, in use?

VE3NFK
Just wanted to put in a 'plug' for my friend Laurent who wrote (writes) TRX-Manager...

I have found it to be exemplary with the K3 (Laurent has one) - worth a test-drive;
not free but reasonable   trx-manager.com

It operates the SteppIR, rotator, amp, log, DX-Cluster and the K3 all together seamlessly.

I have no financial interest in it.

73  John VE3NFK
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Re: K3: Firmware 4.48 release - stable, in use?

John K3TN
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Thanks for all the responses. Per Elecraft, it looks like 4.48 will go production in a few days, after some changes to the K3 utility are dealt with.

On the HRD front, many of us had submitted "fix the K3 interface" to the prior HRD ownership and it was on the ToDo list - but the prior owner had stopped updating. The new ownership seems to understand the issue, but the existing fixes to 5.11 haven't changed the problem. 4.48 may be enough for now.

I actually switched to DXLabs and found the K3 interfacing much better - but it has a problem with my use of the Microham MK2R+ which I've been unable to solve - so back to HRD. The MK2R+ provides an LPbridge capability, along with other things, so I can interface multiple sow to multiple devices.

Perhaps the coming pay-for version (6) of HRD will clean things up but I will move to 4.48 after all the good advice.

73, John K3TN
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KQ5S
John,
Have you posted your problem on the DXLabs group?  Dave, AA6YQ, the
DXLabs author, is very good at working out issues.  Also Joe, W4TV, is
a resident expert.

--
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KQ5S

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 7:47 AM, John K3TN <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thanks for all the responses. Per Elecraft, it looks like 4.48 will go
> production in a few days, after some changes to the K3 utility are dealt
> with.
>
> On the HRD front, many of us had submitted "fix the K3 interface" to the
> prior HRD ownership and it was on the ToDo list - but the prior owner had
> stopped updating. The new ownership seems to understand the issue, but the
> existing fixes to 5.11 haven't changed the problem. 4.48 may be enough for
> now.
>
> I actually switched to DXLabs and found the K3 interfacing much better - but
> it has a problem with my use of the Microham MK2R+ which I've been unable to
> solve - so back to HRD. The MK2R+ provides an LPbridge capability, along
> with other things, so I can interface multiple sow to multiple devices.
>
> Perhaps the coming pay-for version (6) of HRD will clean things up but I
> will move to 4.48 after all the good advice.
>
> 73, John K3TN
>
> --
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Re: K3: Firmware 4.48 release - stable, in use?

Joe Subich, W4TV-4
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> I actually switched to DXLabs and found the K3 interfacing much
> better - but it has a problem with my use of the Microham MK2R+
> which I've been unable to solve - so back to HRD.

As one who uses DXLab Suite. MK2R+ and the K3, there is no issue with
DXLab Suite and MK2R+ when both products are used according to their
documentation.  AA6YQ has been very helpful in working out any issues
with control.  The only minor inconvenience is that once both rigs
have been started turning of either one will cause Mk2R+ to lock out
transmit; this is a safety design to prevent manual transmission with
both rigs on the same band and is easily handled by momentarily cycling
power on the MK2R when turning off one rig.

Like the vast majority of popular software and all microHAM interfaces,
a guide to configuring DXLab Suite with MK2R+ and DXLab Suite can be
downloaded on-line at www.microHAM-USA.com/support.html.

73,

    ... Joe Subich, W4TV
        microHAM America, LLC.
        http://www.microHAM-USA.com
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM


On 3/30/2012 7:47 AM, John K3TN wrote:

> Thanks for all the responses. Per Elecraft, it looks like 4.48 will go
> production in a few days, after some changes to the K3 utility are dealt
> with.
>
> On the HRD front, many of us had submitted "fix the K3 interface" to the
> prior HRD ownership and it was on the ToDo list - but the prior owner had
> stopped updating. The new ownership seems to understand the issue, but the
> existing fixes to 5.11 haven't changed the problem. 4.48 may be enough for
> now.
>
> I actually switched to DXLabs and found the K3 interfacing much better - but
> it has a problem with my use of the Microham MK2R+ which I've been unable to
> solve - so back to HRD. The MK2R+ provides an LPbridge capability, along
> with other things, so I can interface multiple sow to multiple devices.
>
> Perhaps the coming pay-for version (6) of HRD will clean things up but I
> will move to 4.48 after all the good advice.
>
> 73, John K3TN
>
> --
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Re: K3: Firmware 4.48 release - stable, in use?

Keith Heimbold
This string has been extremely informative as I just received the Remoterig and I will be running it with a computer at the remote site. I am still trying to figure whether to use TRX Manager or HRD as the rig control software.  This discussion is giving me a lot to think about.

Keith
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On Mar 30, 2012, at 6:59 AM, "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>> I actually switched to DXLabs and found the K3 interfacing much
>> better - but it has a problem with my use of the Microham MK2R+
>> which I've been unable to solve - so back to HRD.
>
> As one who uses DXLab Suite. MK2R+ and the K3, there is no issue with
> DXLab Suite and MK2R+ when both products are used according to their
> documentation.  AA6YQ has been very helpful in working out any issues
> with control.  The only minor inconvenience is that once both rigs
> have been started turning of either one will cause Mk2R+ to lock out
> transmit; this is a safety design to prevent manual transmission with
> both rigs on the same band and is easily handled by momentarily cycling
> power on the MK2R when turning off one rig.
>
> Like the vast majority of popular software and all microHAM interfaces,
> a guide to configuring DXLab Suite with MK2R+ and DXLab Suite can be
> downloaded on-line at www.microHAM-USA.com/support.html.
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe Subich, W4TV
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>
>
> On 3/30/2012 7:47 AM, John K3TN wrote:
>> Thanks for all the responses. Per Elecraft, it looks like 4.48 will go
>> production in a few days, after some changes to the K3 utility are dealt
>> with.
>>
>> On the HRD front, many of us had submitted "fix the K3 interface" to the
>> prior HRD ownership and it was on the ToDo list - but the prior owner had
>> stopped updating. The new ownership seems to understand the issue, but the
>> existing fixes to 5.11 haven't changed the problem. 4.48 may be enough for
>> now.
>>
>> I actually switched to DXLabs and found the K3 interfacing much better - but
>> it has a problem with my use of the Microham MK2R+ which I've been unable to
>> solve - so back to HRD. The MK2R+ provides an LPbridge capability, along
>> with other things, so I can interface multiple sow to multiple devices.
>>
>> Perhaps the coming pay-for version (6) of HRD will clean things up but I
>> will move to 4.48 after all the good advice.
>>
>> 73, John K3TN
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Re: K3: Firmware 4.48 release - stable, in use?

Jim Brown-10
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On 3/30/2012 4:47 AM, John K3TN wrote:
> I actually switched to DXLabs and found the K3 interfacing much better - but
> it has a problem with my use of the Microham MK2R+

If you haven't already done so, take that up with AA6YQ and W4TV, both
of whom are on the DXLabs Yahoo reflector.  Both are quite aware of K3
issues with their products and their interactivity, and both seem to be
quite responsive.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: K3: Firmware 4.48 release - stable, in use?

John K3TN
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I have both DXLab and the MK2R+ set up per the documentation in both. Yet, the MK2R+ busy light indicating two radios on same band comes on constantly. The second radio is never turned on, yet the problem occurs constantly. Cycling power on the MK2R+ solves the problem for a few minutes - any QSY of the K3 causes the MK2R+ busy light to come on and lock out transmission.

Since every setting is per both the Microham setup instructions and the DXlab set up instructions, in my experience the MK2R+ and DXLab do not work well together. I don't have this problem with N1MM or HRD software and never had the problem with DXLab before I used the MK2R+ so all signs point to the combination of the two not working. Others have had the problem and it was solved by upping the data rate to 38.400 - that did not solve my problem.

John K3TN

Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote
> I actually switched to DXLabs and found the K3 interfacing much
> better - but it has a problem with my use of the Microham MK2R+
> which I've been unable to solve - so back to HRD.

As one who uses DXLab Suite. MK2R+ and the K3, there is no issue with
DXLab Suite and MK2R+ when both products are used according to their
documentation.  AA6YQ has been very helpful in working out any issues
with control.  The only minor inconvenience is that once both rigs
have been started turning of either one will cause Mk2R+ to lock out
transmit; this is a safety design to prevent manual transmission with
both rigs on the same band and is easily handled by momentarily cycling
power on the MK2R when turning off one rig.
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Re: K3: Firmware 4.48 release - stable, in use?

John K3TN
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I have taken it up with both on the DXLab reflector. Dave said he can't investigate SO2R box issues and I understand that. Joe referred me to the documentation for MK2R+ with DXLabs and I changed all settings to that document, problem still occurs. I sent Joe some log files but no solution.

John K3TN

Jim Brown-10 wrote
On 3/30/2012 4:47 AM, John K3TN wrote:
> I actually switched to DXLabs and found the K3 interfacing much better - but
> it has a problem with my use of the Microham MK2R+

If you haven't already done so, take that up with AA6YQ and W4TV, both
of whom are on the DXLabs Yahoo reflector.  Both are quite aware of K3
issues with their products and their interactivity, and both seem to be
quite responsive.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: K3: Firmware 4.48 release - stable, in use?

K2GN
Using  microHAM 2R+ - DXLab - N1MM  combo with 2 K3s and the setup works
exactly like Joe describes it.
No problems.

Larry/K2GN - http://k2gn.com


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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Firmware 4.48 release - stable, in use?

I have taken it up with both on the DXLab reflector. Dave said he can't
investigate SO2R box issues and I understand that. Joe referred me to the
documentation for MK2R+ with DXLabs and I changed all settings to that
document, problem still occurs. I sent Joe some log files but no solution.

John K3TN


Jim Brown-10 wrote

>
> On 3/30/2012 4:47 AM, John K3TN wrote:
>> I actually switched to DXLabs and found the K3 interfacing much
>> better - but it has a problem with my use of the Microham MK2R+
>
> If you haven't already done so, take that up with AA6YQ and W4TV, both
> of whom are on the DXLabs Yahoo reflector.  Both are quite aware of K3
> issues with their products and their interactivity, and both seem to
> be quite responsive.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: K3: Firmware 4.48 release - stable, in use?

Joe Subich, W4TV-4
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As I recall, you are not configuring the Commander portion of DXLab
Suite correctly - specifically, you are not configuring the radios
(K3 and TS-2000) individually on separate ports with Commander's
"Multi-Radio" tab and selecting radios with the radio buttons on
Commander's primary screen.

However, if you will send screen captures of Commander's Multi-Radio,
tab, General tab, Ports tab (SO2R configuration), Router's Ports tab,
Router's SO2R tab, Router's ACC tab, and Router's CAT -> Set window
for *both* radios along with a list of other software running at the
same time as Router and DXLab Suite to *[hidden email]* we will
review your configuration again.

There are many users of MK2R+ and DXLab Suite - the two do not have
any "compatibility issues".

73,

    ... Joe Subich, W4TV
        microHAM America, LLC.
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On 3/31/2012 6:21 AM, John K3TN wrote:

> I have taken it up with both on the DXLab reflector. Dave said he can't
> investigate SO2R box issues and I understand that. Joe referred me to the
> documentation for MK2R+ with DXLabs and I changed all settings to that
> document, problem still occurs. I sent Joe some log files but no solution.
>
> John K3TN
>
>
> Jim Brown-10 wrote
>>
>> On 3/30/2012 4:47 AM, John K3TN wrote:
>>> I actually switched to DXLabs and found the K3 interfacing much better -
>>> but
>>> it has a problem with my use of the Microham MK2R+
>>
>> If you haven't already done so, take that up with AA6YQ and W4TV, both
>> of whom are on the DXLabs Yahoo reflector.  Both are quite aware of K3
>> issues with their products and their interactivity, and both seem to be
>> quite responsive.
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: K3: Firmware 4.48 release - stable, in use?

Matthew Pitts
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Larry,

There are possible reasons why one station works and another does not, and there seems to be little that can be done about it without knowing specific PC hardware being used and what other software might be in use.

Matthew Pitts
N8OHU

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Re: K3: Firmware 4.48 release - stable, in use?

John K3TN
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Joe - I'll send  you the data capture with screen shots this time. The K3 and TS-850 settings were identical to the Microham MK2R+/DXLabs config guide and still are. I still *never* use the 850 when DXLabs is running, as the second radio is only used during contests with N1MM, where everything works fine - not so with DXlab, even configured identically to the Microham documentation.

Will send the data and appreciate the support.

John K3TN