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K3 Firmware downloads

Nelson Wittstock
When the latest firmware is downloaded to my K3 does it include the earlier
versions or do I have to go back and download the earlier versions to have
them all?

Nelson, K8DJC


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RE: K3 Firmware downloads

Dick Dievendorff
Each firmware version completely replaces its predecessor. There is no need
to load each intermediate version, just the most recent available.

Dick, K6KR


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When the latest firmware is downloaded to my K3 does it include the earlier
versions or do I have to go back and download the earlier versions to have
them all?

Nelson, K8DJC


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RE: K3 Firmware downloads

Bill Steffey NY9H
much like other radio/s...
You will not find the necessity of " going back"  to retrieve a stable version.

None of the changes has had me EVER thinking I wanted to go backwards.

bill.


At 11:57 PM 3/15/2008, Dick Dievendorff wrote:
>Each firmware version completely replaces its predecessor. There is no need
>to load each intermediate version, just the most recent available.
>
>Dick, K6KR

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RE: K3 Firmware downloads

Dick Dievendorff
In reply to this post by Nelson Wittstock
My IC-7800 requires that you install each firmware upgrade.

I believe that ICOM must be using a "delta patch" sort of technology.  The
Elecraft K3 uses a "completely replace" approach.

Those of us who test K3 firmware that hasn't yet been released to customers
need the ability to bounce back and forth between firmware versions.

That's why there is an "Advanced Mode" option on the K3 Utility View menu
which displays check boxes and buttons necessary to load firmware that's
older than the version installed in the radio.  I must load firmware 5 to 10
times a day, and I think the firmware developers may do it much more often
than that.

73 de Dick, K6KR


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From: Bill NY9H [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 9:40 AM
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Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware downloads

much like other radio/s...
You will not find the necessity of " going back"  to retrieve a stable
version.

None of the changes has had me EVER thinking I wanted to go backwards.

bill.


At 11:57 PM 3/15/2008, Dick Dievendorff wrote:
>Each firmware version completely replaces its predecessor. There is no need
>to load each intermediate version, just the most recent available.
>
>Dick, K6KR




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Re: K3 Firmware downloads

Bruce Bowman
Related to this, what is the action of the Configuration Save feature in
the K3 Utility? Can a configuration saved from an earlier f/w level be
applied to a current/different f/w level? or do you have to keep
configurations matched to the f/w? Is any f/w code saved as part of the
configuration?

Bruce, NM5B
Santa Fe, NM



> My IC-7800 requires that you install each firmware upgrade.
>
> I believe that ICOM must be using a "delta patch" sort of technology.
> The
> Elecraft K3 uses a "completely replace" approach.
>
> Those of us who test K3 firmware that hasn't yet been released to
> customers
> need the ability to bounce back and forth between firmware versions.
>
> That's why there is an "Advanced Mode" option on the K3 Utility View
> menu
> which displays check boxes and buttons necessary to load firmware
> that's
> older than the version installed in the radio.  I must load firmware 5
> to 10
> times a day, and I think the firmware developers may do it much more
> often
> than that.
>
> 73 de Dick, K6KR
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill NY9H [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 9:40 AM
> To: [hidden email]; 'Nelson Wittstock'; [hidden email]
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware downloads
>
> much like other radio/s...
> You will not find the necessity of " going back"  to retrieve a stable
> version.
>
> None of the changes has had me EVER thinking I wanted to go backwards.
>
> bill.
>
>
> At 11:57 PM 3/15/2008, Dick Dievendorff wrote:
>>Each firmware version completely replaces its predecessor. There is no
>>need
>>to load each intermediate version, just the most recent available.
>>
>>Dick, K6KR
>
>
>
>
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RE: K3 Firmware downloads

Dick Dievendorff
A configuration from one version can be restored to a different version.  

No firmware program instructions are saved in the configuration save.

Dick, K6KR



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Related to this, what is the action of the Configuration Save feature in
the K3 Utility? Can a configuration saved from an earlier f/w level be
applied to a current/different f/w level? or do you have to keep
configurations matched to the f/w? Is any f/w code saved as part of the
configuration?

Bruce, NM5B
Santa Fe, NM



> My IC-7800 requires that you install each firmware upgrade.
>
> I believe that ICOM must be using a "delta patch" sort of technology.
> The
> Elecraft K3 uses a "completely replace" approach.
>
> Those of us who test K3 firmware that hasn't yet been released to
> customers
> need the ability to bounce back and forth between firmware versions.
>
> That's why there is an "Advanced Mode" option on the K3 Utility View
> menu
> which displays check boxes and buttons necessary to load firmware
> that's
> older than the version installed in the radio.  I must load firmware 5
> to 10
> times a day, and I think the firmware developers may do it much more
> often
> than that.
>
> 73 de Dick, K6KR
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill NY9H [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 9:40 AM
> To: [hidden email]; 'Nelson Wittstock'; [hidden email]
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware downloads
>
> much like other radio/s...
> You will not find the necessity of " going back"  to retrieve a stable
> version.
>
> None of the changes has had me EVER thinking I wanted to go backwards.
>
> bill.
>
>
> At 11:57 PM 3/15/2008, Dick Dievendorff wrote:
>>Each firmware version completely replaces its predecessor. There is no
>>need
>>to load each intermediate version, just the most recent available.
>>
>>Dick, K6KR
>
>
>
>
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Configuration Save

Bill W4ZV

Dick Dievendorff wrote
A configuration from one version can be restored to a different version.
If you haven't stored a working configuration using Dick's Configuration Save utility in the K3 Loader, I highly recommend you do so.  I've made a habit of periodically saving my configurations since I got my K3 in December.  Just yesterday I had a problem which was solved by reloading the previous configuration.  I think of it like the System Restore feature in Windows.  Eventually I figured out what was wrong but is was really nice to be able to revert to a previously working configuration, thanks to Dick's utility.

73,  Bill