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Bruce Meier-2

K3 - Firmware question / QRQ

When the QRQ feature was added to the firmware, certain functions were lost.
(RIT, Shift, Split, etc.) At that time, I believe the intent was to add
them back on future firmware revisions. Since then I don't believe the
'add back' has been mentioned. If so, I missed it.

Just wondering if/when that is going to happen?

73,
Bruce - N1LN
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wayne burdick

Re: K3 - Firmware question / QRQ

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Hi Bruce,

You can do SPLIT in QRQ mode, and I recommend this as an alternative
to RIT, for now.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:24 AM, Bruce Meier wrote:

> When the QRQ feature was added to the firmware, certain functions
> were lost.
> (RIT, Shift, Split, etc.) At that time, I believe the intent was
> to add
> them back on future firmware revisions. Since then I don't
> believe the
> 'add back' has been mentioned. If so, I missed it.
>
> Just wondering if/when that is going to happen?
>
> 73,
> Bruce - N1LN
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Bruce Meier-2

Re: K3 - Firmware question / QRQ

Wayne,

When I push the A>B button to go to Split, VFO B display says N/A QRQ. If
I am in SPLIT mode and go to QRQ, my K3s (both of them) drop out of Split
mode. I am running the latest firmware and have PF2 set to turn QRQ on and
off. Perhaps there is some other setting I am not aware that needs to be
changed.

73,
Bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Burdick [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 11:39
To: Bruce Meier
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: K3 - Firmware question / QRQ

Hi Bruce,

You can do SPLIT in QRQ mode, and I recommend this as an alternative
to RIT, for now.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:24 AM, Bruce Meier wrote:

W5UXH

Re: K3 - Firmware question / QRQ

In reply to this post by wayne burdick

Hmm, when I "hold" SPLIT, I get the N/A QRQ message. I don't really want to use SPLIT for anything but am now curious if there is some other menu setting needed to enable SPLIT in QRQ mode?

Chuck, W5UXH

wayne burdick wrote

Hi Bruce,

You can do SPLIT in QRQ mode, and I recommend this as an alternative
to RIT, for now.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

wayne burdick

Re: K3 - Firmware question / QRQ

Administrator

In reply to this post by Bruce Meier-2

You're right, Bruce, you can only do "implied split" in QRQ mode:
transmit on VFO A, but listen on VFO B using the sub receiver. (Just
waking up, here :) In this case you don't have to activate SPLIT; just
turn the sub on.

Wayne

On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:44 AM, Bruce Meier wrote:

> Wayne,
>
> When I push the A>B button to go to Split, VFO B display says N/A
> QRQ. If
> I am in SPLIT mode and go to QRQ, my K3s (both of them) drop out of
> Split
> mode. I am running the latest firmware and have PF2 set to turn QRQ
> on and
> off. Perhaps there is some other setting I am not aware that needs
> to be
> changed.
>
> 73,
> Bruce
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wayne Burdick [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 11:39
> To: Bruce Meier
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: K3 - Firmware question / QRQ
>
> Hi Bruce,
>
> You can do SPLIT in QRQ mode, and I recommend this as an alternative
> to RIT, for now.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:24 AM, Bruce Meier wrote:
>
>> When the QRQ feature was added to the firmware, certain functions
>> were lost.
>> (RIT, Shift, Split, etc.) At that time, I believe the intent was
>> to add
>> them back on future firmware revisions. Since then I don't
>> believe the
>> 'add back' has been mentioned. If so, I missed it.
>>
>> Just wondering if/when that is going to happen?
>>
>> 73,
>> Bruce - N1LN
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Bob Naumann W5OV

Re: K3 - Firmware question / QRQ

In reply to this post by W5UXH

Is your other VFO on the same band? If not, you have to do A>B first.

One change that I would like to see would be that if I press and hold
Split, that it automatically does A>B for me since that is obviously what
I want to do anyway.

73,

Bob W5OV

>
> Hmm, when I "hold" SPLIT, I get the N/A QRQ message. I don't really want
> to
> use SPLIT for anything but am now curious if there is some other menu
> setting needed to enable SPLIT in QRQ mode?
>
> Chuck, W5UXH
>
>
> wayne burdick wrote:
>>
>> Hi Bruce,
>>
>> You can do SPLIT in QRQ mode, and I recommend this as an alternative
>> to RIT, for now.
>>
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
>>
>
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Bob Naumann W5OV

Re: K3 - Firmware question / QRQ

Sorry - forgot - this is only when you're not in QRQ mode.

I still would like Split to do the A>B for me instead of telling me I
can't do split.

73,

Bob W5OV

> Is your other VFO on the same band? If not, you have to do A>B first.
>
> One change that I would like to see would be that if I press and hold
> Split, that it automatically does A>B for me since that is obviously what
> I want to do anyway.
>
> 73,
>
> Bob W5OV
>
>>
>> Hmm, when I "hold" SPLIT, I get the N/A QRQ message. I don't really
>> want
>> to
>> use SPLIT for anything but am now curious if there is some other menu
>> setting needed to enable SPLIT in QRQ mode?
>>
>> Chuck, W5UXH
>>
>>
>> wayne burdick wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Bruce,
>>>
>>> You can do SPLIT in QRQ mode, and I recommend this as an alternative
>>> to RIT, for now.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>>
>>>
>>
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Steve Ellington

Re: K3 - Firmware question / QRQ

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I sure hope RIT with QRQ is in the works and not forgotten.
Even at slow speed, QSK is much better in QRQ mode.
No 2nd rx here so split isn't an option.

Steve
N4LQ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne Burdick" <[hidden email]>
To: "Bruce Meier" <[hidden email]>
Cc: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Firmware question / QRQ

> Hi Bruce,
>
> You can do SPLIT in QRQ mode, and I recommend this as an alternative
> to RIT, for now.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:24 AM, Bruce Meier wrote:
>
>> When the QRQ feature was added to the firmware, certain functions
>> were lost.
>> (RIT, Shift, Split, etc.) At that time, I believe the intent was
>> to add
>> them back on future firmware revisions. Since then I don't
>> believe the
>> 'add back' has been mentioned. If so, I missed it.
>>
>> Just wondering if/when that is going to happen?
>>
>> 73,
>> Bruce - N1LN
>> ______________________________________________________________
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Bob Naumann W5OV

Re: K3 - Firmware question / QRQ

In reply to this post by Bob Naumann W5OV

If your VFOB is set to another band, and you want it to go split, you want
it set to the same band as VFOA. There's no way to know what split
frequency you want to go to though - is there?

Obviously, if you have your VFOB set to a frequency in the same band
already it should just change you into Split mode without changing the
VFOB frequency.

I would hope that this moderate level of logic could be included to
prevent stupid mistakes instead of forcing excess key strokes and wasting
time as it does now.

73,

Bob W5OV

>
>> One change that I would like to see would be that if I press and
>> hold Split, that it automatically does A>B for me since that is
>> obviously what I want to do anyway.
>
> Bad Idea ... I do not want to reset my transmit frequency to my
> receive frequency every time I turn split on/or off! There are
> already too many "wrong VFO" problems - resetting the transmit
> frequency every time split was turned on/off would increase that
> situation exponentially!
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 1/28/2011 12:15 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
>> Is your other VFO on the same band? If not, you have to do A>B first.
>>
>> One change that I would like to see would be that if I press and hold
>> Split, that it automatically does A>B for me since that is obviously
>> what
>> I want to do anyway.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Bob W5OV
>>
>>>
>>> Hmm, when I "hold" SPLIT, I get the N/A QRQ message. I don't really
>>> want
>>> to
>>> use SPLIT for anything but am now curious if there is some other menu
>>> setting needed to enable SPLIT in QRQ mode?
>>>
>>> Chuck, W5UXH
>>>
>>>
>>> wayne burdick wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Bruce,
>>>>
>>>> You can do SPLIT in QRQ mode, and I recommend this as an alternative
>>>> to RIT, for now.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Wayne
>>>> N6KR
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> View this message in context:
>>> http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Firmware-question-QRQ-tp5970401p5970480.html
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>>
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Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: K3 - Firmware question / QRQ

> If your VFOB is set to another band, and you want it to go split, you
> want it set to the same band as VFOA. There's no way to know what
> split frequency you want to go to though - is there?

Having VFO B set to another band is a user choice (VFO IND).

> I would hope that this moderate level of logic could be included
> to prevent stupid mistakes instead of forcing excess key strokes
> and wasting time as it does now.

Your change would force excess keystrokes (or knob twisting) vs. the
current condition. You save one keypress (tap A>B) to synchronize
VFOs when initially selecting split but cause synchronization of the
VFOs every time Split is turned On/Off which results in any previously
set split when for example checking another frequency/pile-up/band.

If you want a function that sets split and synchronizes the VFOs,
use one of the programmable (macro) keys ... there have been several
examples of "quick split" macros posted.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 1/28/2011 1:24 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

>
> If your VFOB is set to another band, and you want it to go split, you want
> it set to the same band as VFOA. There's no way to know what split
> frequency you want to go to though - is there?
>
> Obviously, if you have your VFOB set to a frequency in the same band
> already it should just change you into Split mode without changing the
> VFOB frequency.
>
> I would hope that this moderate level of logic could be included to
> prevent stupid mistakes instead of forcing excess key strokes and wasting
> time as it does now.
>
> 73,
>
> Bob W5OV
>
>
>
>>
>>> One change that I would like to see would be that if I press and
>>> hold Split, that it automatically does A>B for me since that is
>>> obviously what I want to do anyway.
>>
>> Bad Idea ... I do not want to reset my transmit frequency to my
>> receive frequency every time I turn split on/or off! There are
>> already too many "wrong VFO" problems - resetting the transmit
>> frequency every time split was turned on/off would increase that
>> situation exponentially!
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> ... Joe, W4TV
>>
>>
>> On 1/28/2011 12:15 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
>>> Is your other VFO on the same band? If not, you have to do A>B first.
>>>
>>> One change that I would like to see would be that if I press and hold
>>> Split, that it automatically does A>B for me since that is obviously
>>> what
>>> I want to do anyway.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Bob W5OV
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hmm, when I "hold" SPLIT, I get the N/A QRQ message. I don't really
>>>> want
>>>> to
>>>> use SPLIT for anything but am now curious if there is some other menu
>>>> setting needed to enable SPLIT in QRQ mode?
>>>>
>>>> Chuck, W5UXH
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> wayne burdick wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Bruce,
>>>>>
>>>>> You can do SPLIT in QRQ mode, and I recommend this as an alternative
>>>>> to RIT, for now.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> Wayne
>>>>> N6KR
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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>>>
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