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Nand Kishore

K3 Firmware upload elapsed time

What should be the time taken to do an upload for a K3 with subrx.
In my case its about 70 minutes.Is this normal ?

Nandu
Vu2nks
K3 # 282
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Dave Perry N4QS

Re: K3 Firmware upload elapsed time

No, that's not normal. It should only take a few minutes.

Dave, N4QS
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-----Original Message-----
From: Nand Kishore <[hidden email]>
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Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 18:51:44
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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware upload elapsed time

What should be the time taken to do an upload for a K3 with subrx.
In my case its about 70 minutes.Is this normal ?

Nandu
Vu2nks
K3 # 282
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DaveL G3TJP

Re: K3 Firmware upload elapsed time

In reply to this post by Nand Kishore

Check the bitrate between your computer and the K3. Unless there are
problems, it should run at 38kbits/S. That's when it takes just a few
minutes, but you may have yours set to a very slow speed.

HTH

73 Dave G3TJP

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Dick Dievendorff

Re: K3 Firmware upload elapsed time

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About five to eight minutes is normal. You may have many retries, indicating a less than ideal RS-232 connection. Use the view menu, verbose settings for explicit indications of each retry. Check that your cable hold down screws are snug. Try the troubleshooting steps in K3 Utility Help for USB to serial adapters if that is what you are using. If the RS232 cabling path is complex (many connectors) try to simplify it.

Firmware load is done at 38400 bps.

73 de Dick, K6KR

On Dec 3, 2012, at 5:21 AM, Nand Kishore <[hidden email]> wrote:

> What should be the time taken to do an upload for a K3 with subrx.
> In my case its about 70 minutes.Is this normal ?
>
> Nandu
> Vu2nks
> K3 # 282
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Nand Kishore

Re: K3 Firmware upload elapsed time

Hi Dick,
I have been battling with an ERR TXG problem. I am in touch with
support.Have changed LPA.
No improvement in out put power,cannot exceed 10w with KPA3 in line.About
0.6W with KPA3
bypassed.Various voltages taken with rf probe as advised reported back to
support.Was advised
to do ref cal again.
So,I did the full F/W down load,latest regular release with latest utility.
It has been taking a long
time to do F/W load lately,but always without any retries.
So,I thought of asking here if the time taken to load was a norm.If the F/W
is not done right,should
I not sort it out first before looking at H/W.

I have K3/100 # 282 + KRX3 + KDVR + P3.
Using Laptop with pcmcia dual serial port card.

73 de Nandu

On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Dick Dievendorff <[hidden email]> wrote:

> About five to eight minutes is normal. You may have many retries,
> indicating a less than ideal RS-232 connection. Use the view menu, verbose
> settings for explicit indications of each retry. Check that your cable hold
> down screws are snug. Try the troubleshooting steps in K3 Utility Help for
> USB to serial adapters if that is what you are using. If the RS232 cabling
> path is complex (many connectors) try to simplify it.
>
> Firmware load is done at 38400 bps.
>
> 73 de Dick, K6KR
>
>
> On Dec 3, 2012, at 5:21 AM, Nand Kishore <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > What should be the time taken to do an upload for a K3 with subrx.
> > In my case its about 70 minutes.Is this normal ?
> >
> > Nandu
> > Vu2nks
> > K3 # 282
>
>

Dick Dievendorff

Re: K3 Firmware upload elapsed time

Has that serial path worked more quickly in the past? Do you have alternatives available to try? That load time is terrible v

Dick

On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:56 AM, Nand Kishore <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Dick,
> I have been battling with an ERR TXG problem. I am in touch with support.Have changed LPA.
> No improvement in out put power,cannot exceed 10w with KPA3 in line.About 0.6W with KPA3
> bypassed.Various voltages taken with rf probe as advised reported back to support.Was advised
> to do ref cal again.
> So,I did the full F/W down load,latest regular release with latest utility. It has been taking a long
> time to do F/W load lately,but always without any retries.
> So,I thought of asking here if the time taken to load was a norm.If the F/W is not done right,should
> I not sort it out first before looking at H/W.
>
> I have K3/100 # 282 + KRX3 + KDVR + P3.
> Using Laptop with pcmcia dual serial port card.
>
> 73 de Nandu
>
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Dick Dievendorff <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> About five to eight minutes is normal. You may have many retries, indicating a less than ideal RS-232 connection. Use the view menu, verbose settings for explicit indications of each retry. Check that your cable hold down screws are snug. Try the troubleshooting steps in K3 Utility Help for USB to serial adapters if that is what you are using. If the RS232 cabling path is complex (many connectors) try to simplify it.
>>
>> Firmware load is done at 38400 bps.
>>
>> 73 de Dick, K6KR
>>
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2012, at 5:21 AM, Nand Kishore <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> > What should be the time taken to do an upload for a K3 with subrx.
>> > In my case its about 70 minutes.Is this normal ?
>> >
>> > Nandu
>> > Vu2nks
>> > K3 # 282
>

Nand Kishore

Re: K3 Firmware upload elapsed time

Yes, the uploads have been faster before.Now I will try with regular usb to
serial cable which
I had kept aside as I wanted FSK. Now I will take the cable directly to K3
instead of via P3.
I have no other PC.
Will report back.
73 de Nandu

On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Dick Dievendorff <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Has that serial path worked more quickly in the past? Do you have
> alternatives available to try? That load time is terrible v
>
> Dick
>
>
> On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:56 AM, Nand Kishore <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Dick,
> I have been battling with an ERR TXG problem. I am in touch with
> support.Have changed LPA.
> No improvement in out put power,cannot exceed 10w with KPA3 in line.About
> 0.6W with KPA3
> bypassed.Various voltages taken with rf probe as advised reported back to
> support.Was advised
> to do ref cal again.
> So,I did the full F/W down load,latest regular release with latest
> utility. It has been taking a long
> time to do F/W load lately,but always without any retries.
> So,I thought of asking here if the time taken to load was a norm.If the
> F/W is not done right,should
> I not sort it out first before looking at H/W.
>
> I have K3/100 # 282 + KRX3 + KDVR + P3.
> Using Laptop with pcmcia dual serial port card.
>
> 73 de Nandu
>
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Dick Dievendorff <[hidden email]>wrote:
>
>> About five to eight minutes is normal. You may have many retries,
>> indicating a less than ideal RS-232 connection. Use the view menu, verbose
>> settings for explicit indications of each retry. Check that your cable hold
>> down screws are snug. Try the troubleshooting steps in K3 Utility Help for
>> USB to serial adapters if that is what you are using. If the RS232 cabling
>> path is complex (many connectors) try to simplify it.
>>
>> Firmware load is done at 38400 bps.
>>
>> 73 de Dick, K6KR
>>
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2012, at 5:21 AM, Nand Kishore <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> > What should be the time taken to do an upload for a K3 with subrx.
>> > In my case its about 70 minutes.Is this normal ?
>> >
>> > Nandu
>> > Vu2nks
>> > K3 # 282
>>
>>
>

Cady, Fred

Re: K3 Firmware upload elapsed time

Make sure you have the latest version of the K3 Utility.

Fred Cady
fcady at ieee dot org

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:elecraft-
> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Nand Kishore
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 9:31 AM
> To: Dick Dievendorff
> Cc: elecraft
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware upload elapsed time
>
> Yes, the uploads have been faster before.Now I will try with regular
> usb to
> serial cable which
> I had kept aside as I wanted FSK. Now I will take the cable directly

> K3
> instead of via P3.
> I have no other PC.
> Will report back.
> 73 de Nandu
>
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Dick Dievendorff <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > Has that serial path worked more quickly in the past? Do you have
> > alternatives available to try? That load time is terrible v
> >
> > Dick
> >
> >
> > On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:56 AM, Nand Kishore <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Dick,
> > I have been battling with an ERR TXG problem. I am in touch with
> > support.Have changed LPA.
> > No improvement in out put power,cannot exceed 10w with KPA3 in
> line.About
> > 0.6W with KPA3
> > bypassed.Various voltages taken with rf probe as advised reported
> back to
> > support.Was advised
> > to do ref cal again.
> > So,I did the full F/W down load,latest regular release with latest
> > utility. It has been taking a long
> > time to do F/W load lately,but always without any retries.
> > So,I thought of asking here if the time taken to load was a norm.If
> the
> > F/W is not done right,should
> > I not sort it out first before looking at H/W.
> >
> > I have K3/100 # 282 + KRX3 + KDVR + P3.
> > Using Laptop with pcmcia dual serial port card.
> >
> > 73 de Nandu
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Dick Dievendorff
> <[hidden email]>wrote:
> >
> >> About five to eight minutes is normal. You may have many retries,
> >> indicating a less than ideal RS-232 connection. Use the view menu,
> verbose
> >> settings for explicit indications of each retry. Check that your
> cable hold
> >> down screws are snug. Try the troubleshooting steps in K3 Utility
> Help for
> >> USB to serial adapters if that is what you are using. If the RS232
> cabling
> >> path is complex (many connectors) try to simplify it.
> >>
> >> Firmware load is done at 38400 bps.
> >>
> >> 73 de Dick, K6KR
> >>
> >>
> >> On Dec 3, 2012, at 5:21 AM, Nand Kishore <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > What should be the time taken to do an upload for a K3 with

subrx.

> >> > In my case its about 70 minutes.Is this normal ?
> >> >
> >> > Nandu
> >> > Vu2nks
> >> > K3 # 282
> >>
> >>
> >
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Nand Kishore

Re: K3 Firmware upload elapsed time

K3 Utility # 1.12.10.10 in use.
Tried upload agn with P3 bypassed.Regular usb to serial cable originally
procured from Elecraft used.No upload failure.No retries.

MCU load time 2.25 m
FPF load time 2.20 m
DSP1 load time 34.30m

On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Cady, Fred <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Make sure you have the latest version of the K3 Utility.
>
> Fred Cady
> fcady at ieee dot org
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [hidden email] [mailto:elecraft-
> > [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Nand Kishore
> > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 9:31 AM
> > To: Dick Dievendorff
> > Cc: elecraft
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware upload elapsed time
> >
> > Yes, the uploads have been faster before.Now I will try with regular
> > usb to
> > serial cable which
> > I had kept aside as I wanted FSK. Now I will take the cable directly
> to
> > K3
> > instead of via P3.
> > I have no other PC.
> > Will report back.
> > 73 de Nandu
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Dick Dievendorff <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Has that serial path worked more quickly in the past? Do you have
> > > alternatives available to try? That load time is terrible v
> > >
> > > Dick
> > >
> >
>