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K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride

Doug Alspaugh
Using HRD beta 1988 I have no comms with LP-Bridge. Reverting back to 1959 fixes the problem. Tried reinstalling with no luck. Anyone else try it?
 
1988 works fine with K3 if I connect direct, without LP-Bridge
 
 
The virtual port on LP-Bridge shows very little action from HRD.
 
 
 
73 Doug N3QW

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Re: K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride

Doug Alspaugh
Hi Mike,
 
I don't see much, if any activity from HRD when I monitor the Virtual port. To bad some nice new features added. I am sure Simon will fix it.
 
 
73 Doug N3QW
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride

Hi Doug
I am seeing the same problem with latest beta of HRD.
LP-Bridge is not passing the new software commands.
 
Mike G8ALS
----- Original Message -----
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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride

Using HRD beta 1988 I have no comms with LP-Bridge. Reverting back to 1959 fixes the problem. Tried reinstalling with no luck. Anyone else try it?
 
1988 works fine with K3 if I connect direct, without LP-Bridge
 
 
The virtual port on LP-Bridge shows very little action from HRD.
 
 
 
73 Doug N3QW


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Re: K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride

Simon (HB9DRV)
Hi,
 
I don't have anything to do with the LP Bridge - I am sure Larry will look at it. To be honest I didn't know that there was a LP Bridge :-)
 
All I can say is that HRD works fine with my K3 here, can anyone confirm this please?
 
Simon Brown, HB9DRV
www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
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I don't see much, if any activity from HRD when I monitor the Virtual port. To bad some nice new features added. I am sure Simon will fix it.

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Re: K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride

Iain MacDonnell - N6ML
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LP-Bride ???

Larry's come out with some great products, but that's a new one on me.
If he's really produced a bride that promises to be compatible with
all of our other radio equipment, that'll be a winner!

Sorry, couldn't resist...

     ~Iain

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RE: K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride

Joe Subich, W4TV-3
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Check with N8LP.  I suspect Simon is making use of one/more
of the new commands that Larry is not supporting with the
current version.  

HRD is very hard on a rig and interface as it polls for a lot
of information.  If third party hardware/software can survive
HRD it can handle almost anything.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV
 
 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Doug Alspaugh
> Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 10:07 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride
>
>
> Using HRD beta 1988 I have no comms with LP-Bridge. Reverting
> back to 1959 fixes the problem. Tried reinstalling with no
> luck. Anyone else try it?
>
> 1988 works fine with K3 if I connect direct, without LP-Bridge
>
>
> The virtual port on LP-Bridge shows very little action from HRD.
>
>
>
> 73 Doug N3QW
>

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Re: K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride

Simon (HB9DRV)
Also I am switching the K30 / K31 quite a bit so that I can use the various
filtering options. Maybe Larry's not expecting this.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV
www.ham-radio-deluxe.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[hidden email]>


>
> Check with N8LP.  I suspect Simon is making use of one/more
> of the new commands that Larry is not supporting with the
> current version.
>
> HRD is very hard on a rig and interface as it polls for a lot
> of information.  If third party hardware/software can survive
> HRD it can handle almost anything.
>

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Re: K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride

Bob-270
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Even harder to produce one which would be compatible with a bride you
already have!!!

Couldn't  resist either.....

73,
Bob
K2TK

Iain MacDonnell - K6IAM wrote:

>
> LP-Bride ???
>
> Larry's come out with some great products, but that's a new one on me.
> If he's really produced a bride that promises to be compatible with
> all of our other radio equipment, that'll be a winner!
>
> Sorry, couldn't resist...
>
>     ~Iain
>
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RE: K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride

Joe Subich, W4TV-3
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> Also I am switching the K30 / K31 quite a bit so that I can
> use the various filtering options. Maybe Larry's not expecting
> this.

That's certainly probable ... he may be in trouble supporting
both modes depending on the way the K3 and PowerSDR behave.  
Is there anything in K30 than can't be handled by staying on
K31?

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV
 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Simon (HB9DRV)
> Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 11:40 AM
> To: [hidden email]; 'Doug Alspaugh';
> [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride
>
>
> Also I am switching the K30 / K31 quite a bit so that I can
> use the various
> filtering options. Maybe Larry's not expecting this.
>
> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
> www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[hidden email]>
>
>
> >
> > Check with N8LP.  I suspect Simon is making use of one/more
> of the new
> > commands that Larry is not supporting with the current version.
> >
> > HRD is very hard on a rig and interface as it polls for a lot of
> > information.  If third party hardware/software can survive
> HRD it can
> > handle almost anything.
> >
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Re: K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride

Simon (HB9DRV)
Selecting filters - same as pressing the XFIL. I can change the code to
toggle K30 / K31. I'll have to make 1989 available tomorrow as there's a
glitch in the SSTV code.

Larry - shout at me before pulling out your hair please.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV
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>
> That's certainly probable ... he may be in trouble supporting
> both modes depending on the way the K3 and PowerSDR behave.
> Is there anything in K30 than can't be handled by staying on
> K31?
>
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Re: K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride

k6te Wim
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Latest beta works fine here with LP-Bridge, using Xmlog in stead of HRD

- Wim


Doug Alspaugh wrote
Using HRD beta 1988 I have no comms with LP-Bridge. Reverting back to 1959 fixes the problem. Tried reinstalling with no luck. Anyone else try it?

1988 works fine with K3 if I connect direct, without LP-Bridge


The virtual port on LP-Bridge shows very little action from HRD.



73 Doug N3QW
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Re: K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride

N8LP
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Hi Simon. I have not implemented the $ commands yet, or some of the
other new commands discussed on the developer's reflector. I plan to do
that when I get caught up on orders. Because the K3 might be talking to
up to five different applications, I generally don't allow meta commands
to be passed to the K3. I keep it in one mode for K2* and K3* commands.
I can add this as an option for one "main" program, but that could cause
problems with other programs. I could also add a slew of commands to
fill in the "virtual K3" that I create so that it can answer either K30
or K31 commands, but that's a lot of work that will have to wait. I have
about 45 "GET" commands implemented, but I think there have been at
least a dozen added in the last few weeks by Wayne. Most "SET" commands
are passed on, except for some of the dev commands and meta commands.

In the meantime, I will download and test your latest beta to see what's
going on. It seems that it should still work at the level it used to,
even without the added command support.

Larry N8LP



> Message: 22
> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 17:39:41 +0200
> From: "Simon (HB9DRV)" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride
> To: <[hidden email]>, "'Doug Alspaugh'"
> <[hidden email]>, <[hidden email]>
> Message-ID: <756D3917535D4E219DC53D3EE147C2E0@doubletrouble>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Also I am switching the K30 / K31 quite a bit so that I can use the various
> filtering options. Maybe Larry's not expecting this.
>
> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
> www.ham-radio-deluxe.com


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Re: K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride

Simon (HB9DRV)
Hi Larry,

New kit in about 30 minutes, I'll be in K31 mode all the time (as pre-1988)
with the exception of the FW command where I'll send K30,FW;K31;.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV
www.ham-radio-deluxe.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Phipps" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 2:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride


> Hi Simon. I have not implemented the $ commands yet, or some of the other
> new commands discussed on the developer's reflector. I plan to do that
> when I get caught up on orders. Because the K3 might be talking to up to
> five different applications, I generally don't allow meta commands to be
> passed to the K3. I keep it in one mode for K2* and K3* commands. I can
> add this as an option for one "main" program, but that could cause
> problems with other programs. I could also add a slew of commands to fill
> in the "virtual K3" that I create so that it can answer either K30 or K31
> commands, but that's a lot of work that will have to wait. I have about 45
> "GET" commands implemented, but I think there have been at least a dozen
> added in the last few weeks by Wayne. Most "SET" commands are passed on,
> except for some of the dev commands and meta commands.
>
> In the meantime, I will download and test your latest beta to see what's
> going on. It seems that it should still work at the level it used to, even
> without the added command support.
>
> Larry N8LP
>
>
>
>> Message: 22
>> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 17:39:41 +0200
>> From: "Simon (HB9DRV)" <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride
>> To: <[hidden email]>, "'Doug Alspaugh'"
>> <[hidden email]>, <[hidden email]>
>> Message-ID: <756D3917535D4E219DC53D3EE147C2E0@doubletrouble>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> Also I am switching the K30 / K31 quite a bit so that I can use the
>> various filtering options. Maybe Larry's not expecting this.
>>
>> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
>> www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
>
>
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Re: K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride

Simon (HB9DRV)
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Hi Larry,

Here's 1989 -
http://mannindustries.net/hrd/public/betas/041/HRDv041b1989_Full.exe

This implements everything available in Wayne's CAT support, as the radio
stays in K31 all the time I hope your bridge is no longer broken - let's
see.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV
www.ham-radio-deluxe.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon (HB9DRV)" <[hidden email]>
>
> New kit in about 30 minutes, I'll be in K31 mode all the time (as
> pre-1988) with the exception of the FW command where I'll send
> K30,FW;K31;.
>
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Re: K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride

Simon (HB9DRV)
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Hi Larry & All,

The K3 commands used in HRD are here:
http://www.ham-radio-deluxe.com/Portals/1/Documentation/K3%20-%20Supported%20Commands.txt

This data comes out of HRD, really added for me to see what I have actually
implemented.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV
www.ham-radio-deluxe.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Phipps" <[hidden email]>


> Hi Simon. I have not implemented the $ commands yet, or some of the other
> new commands discussed on the developer's reflector. I plan to do that
> when I get caught up on orders. Because the K3 might be talking to up to
> five different applications, I generally don't allow meta commands to be
> passed to the K3. I keep it in one mode for K2* and K3* commands. I can
> add this as an option for one "main" program, but that could cause
> problems with other programs. I could also add a slew of commands to fill
> in the "virtual K3" that I create so that it can answer either K30 or K31
> commands, but that's a lot of work that will have to wait. I have about 45
> "GET" commands implemented, but I think there have been at least a dozen
> added in the last few weeks by Wayne. Most "SET" commands are passed on,
> except for some of the dev commands and meta commands.
>
> In the meantime, I will download and test your latest beta to see what's
> going on. It seems that it should still work at the level it used to, even
> without the added command support.
>
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Re: K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride

Doug Alspaugh
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Simon,

Not working here yet.



73 Doug N3QW


----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon (HB9DRV)" <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 12:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride


> Hi Larry,
>
> Here's 1989 -
> http://mannindustries.net/hrd/public/betas/041/HRDv041b1989_Full.exe
>
> This implements everything available in Wayne's CAT support, as the radio
> stays in K31 all the time I hope your bridge is no longer broken - let's
> see.
>
> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
> www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Simon (HB9DRV)" <[hidden email]>
>>
>> New kit in about 30 minutes, I'll be in K31 mode all the time (as
>> pre-1988) with the exception of the FW command where I'll send
>> K30,FW;K31;.
>>
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Re: K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride

Simon (HB9DRV)
Oh dear - looks like it's a job for Larry :-(

Simon Brown, HB9DRV
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>
> Not working here yet.
>
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RE: K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride

Bob Serwy
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I am using K3 with firmware DSP 1.92 and MCU 2.46 (latest firmware).  I am
also using LP-Bridge v0.9.82.  Everything is working fine here.


Bob Serwy - N9RS

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 4:36 AM
To: Simon (HB9DRV)
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride

Simon,

Not working here yet.



73 Doug N3QW


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From: "Simon (HB9DRV)" <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 12:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride


> Hi Larry,
>
> Here's 1989 -
> http://mannindustries.net/hrd/public/betas/041/HRDv041b1989_Full.exe
>
> This implements everything available in Wayne's CAT support, as the radio
> stays in K31 all the time I hope your bridge is no longer broken - let's
> see.
>
> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
> www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Simon (HB9DRV)" <[hidden email]>
>>
>> New kit in about 30 minutes, I'll be in K31 mode all the time (as
>> pre-1988) with the exception of the FW command where I'll send
>> K30,FW;K31;.
>>
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Re: K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride

Doug Alspaugh
Upgrade HRD to the latest and see if it is OK then? I am working fine with
an early version too.



73 Doug N3QW
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From: "Bob Serwy" <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 7:50 AM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride


>I am using K3 with firmware DSP 1.92 and MCU 2.46 (latest firmware).  I am
> also using LP-Bridge v0.9.82.  Everything is working fine here.
>
>
> Bob Serwy - N9RS
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Doug Alspaugh
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 4:36 AM
> To: Simon (HB9DRV)
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> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride
>
> Simon,
>
> Not working here yet.
>
>
>
> 73 Doug N3QW
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Simon (HB9DRV)" <[hidden email]>
> To: "Larry Phipps" <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 12:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride
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>
>> Hi Larry,
>>
>> Here's 1989 -
>> http://mannindustries.net/hrd/public/betas/041/HRDv041b1989_Full.exe
>>
>> This implements everything available in Wayne's CAT support, as the radio
>> stays in K31 all the time I hope your bridge is no longer broken - let's
>> see.
>>
>> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
>> www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Simon (HB9DRV)" <[hidden email]>
>>>
>>> New kit in about 30 minutes, I'll be in K31 mode all the time (as
>>> pre-1988) with the exception of the FW command where I'll send
>>> K30,FW;K31;.
>>>
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Re: K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride

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OK Simon. I added support for AG$, IS, MD$, OM, RG$, RVA, RVF and RVR to
LP-Bridge. That seems to allow HRD to work properly, at least for the
commands that you appear to have added to the main polling routine. I
will look through the dev reflector for further new commands that need
to be added. I pass all your new SET commands through, so I only need to
be concerned about new GET commands at the moment.

After a little testing, I will release this version, but I will leave
the current version on my website as well for those who are not running
the K3 beta firmware.

73,
Larry N8LP

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Simon (HB9DRV)" <[hidden email]>
> To: "Larry Phipps" <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 12:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride
>
>
>  
>> > Hi Larry,
>> >
>> > Here's 1989 -
>> > http://mannindustries.net/hrd/public/betas/041/HRDv041b1989_Full.exe
>> >
>> > This implements everything available in Wayne's CAT support, as the radio
>> > stays in K31 all the time I hope your bridge is no longer broken - let's
>> > see.
>> >
>> > Simon Brown, HB9DRV
>> > www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Simon (HB9DRV)" <[hidden email]>
>>    
>>> >>
>>> >> New kit in about 30 minutes, I'll be in K31 mode all the time (as
>>> >> pre-1988) with the exception of the FW command where I'll send
>>> >> K30,FW;K31;.
>>> >>
>>>      
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Re: K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride

Simon (HB9DRV)
Hi Larry,

That's it - the only commands not used in Polling are those used when you
press the Menu button to get at all that Config stuff.

Are you on the K3 Software list? If so we can co-ordinate this kind of thing
there, I don't expect any major updates like build 1988 / 1989 until Wayne
gets the channel support working.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV
www.ham-radio-deluxe.com

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From: "Larry Phipps" <[hidden email]>


> OK Simon. I added support for AG$, IS, MD$, OM, RG$, RVA, RVF and RVR to
> LP-Bridge. That seems to allow HRD to work properly, at least for the
> commands that you appear to have added to the main polling routine. I will
> look through the dev reflector for further new commands that need to be
> added. I pass all your new SET commands through, so I only need to be
> concerned about new GET commands at the moment.
>
> After a little testing, I will release this version, but I will leave the
> current version on my website as well for those who are not running the K3
> beta firmware.

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