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Bill-3

K3 - HRD rig control

I have asked this question previously, and ask again - as updating and
improving of HRD is an ongoing process.

Have improvements in HRD rig control of the K3 been made that would make
HRD a recommended buy? Previously, various rig controls were not
available through HRD and some controls on screen did properly indicate
selection.

Without taking too much bandwidth - have there been significant
improvements in HRD rig control of the K3? I am still using an old
"free" version.

Please note, I am only interested in rig control - not anything else
that HRD does.

Thanks,

Bill W2BLC K-Line

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Tex

Re: K3 - HRD rig control

If you are only interested rig control, Win4K3 will do the job very well. I use HRD for logging only and Win4K3 for rig control works FB. I may try a free logging program and drop HRD as I feel they will be charging for upgrades regularly.

Tex
ka5y

Barry K3NDM

Re: K3 - HRD rig control

Tex,
You are correct. HRD does require an annual fee for upgrades, but
once you have it, it continues to work whether your subscription runs
out or not.

I do as you. I use Win4K3 with HRD, but I also run CW Skimmer at
the same time and using the same I&Q data you use for the pan display.
It's an awesome package when it's all up. I wouldn't drop HRD if what y
ou have is working FB for you now.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

On 6/12/2015 4:44 PM, pkhjr via Elecraft wrote:

> If you are only interested rig control, Win4K3 will do the job very well. I
> use HRD for logging only and Win4K3 for rig control works FB. I may try a
> free logging program and drop HRD as I feel they will be charging for
> upgrades regularly.
>
> Tex
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Robin Moseley

Re: K3 - HRD rig control

Hi ,
I will be working for HRD as a European support guy.

The way it works is .. you try HRD for 30 days for free.
If you like it, you pay once only for the version you tried and for
upgrades for 12 months, you also get customer support from 3 dedicated
support guys and developers.
If you are happy with the version you are running, and don't need support or
updates, then you don't need to keep paying, you have bought the license
for the software.

If you decide that you want the full features of the latest versions,
support for new radios, windows operating systems etc, country list updates
and another 12 months of the support team, then it is half the original
purchase price per year.. so that is just under $50.

Robin G1MHU

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VE3NFK

Re: K3 - HRD rig control

Check out TRX-Manager 30 day trial and one-time purchase 3 yr support..

full feature control of K3, KX3 and most other rigs; most rotators, SteppIR, logging, and much more...
been around a long time and regularly improved by Laurent.

http://trx-manager.com/index.html

sold by PDA in USA http://www.hosenose.com/TRX-Manager/trx-manager_features.aspx
and integrates with Logic if you want.

73 John VE3NFK

disclaimer - long time alpha /beta tester

Stewart@twinwood

Re: K3 - HRD rig control

A really good software "Swiss Knife"...

73
Stewart G3RXQ

A satisfied long term user.

On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 16:32:10 -0700 (MST), VE3NFK wrote:

> Check out TRX-Manager 30 day trial and one-time purchase 3 yr support..
>
> full feature control of K3, KX3 and most other rigs; most rotators, SteppIR,
> logging, and much more...
> been around a long time and regularly improved by Laurent.
>
> http://trx-manager.com/index.html
>
> sold by PDA in USA
> http://www.hosenose.com/TRX-Manager/trx-manager_features.aspx
> and integrates with Logic if you want.
>
> 73 John VE3NFK
>
> disclaimer - long time alpha /beta tester
>
>
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Ian Kahn, KM4IK

Re: K3 - HRD rig control

Yes. The HRD team worked diligently when they released version 6.x and
corrected the flaws in the rig control portion of the software that
affected the K3. Users can now control nearly any function of the K3 from
HRD. I've used the entire HRD suite for many years and have been very happy
with it.

73 de,

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On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:30 AM, Stewart <[hidden email]> wrote:

> A really good software "Swiss Knife"...
>
> 73
> Stewart G3RXQ
>
> A satisfied long term user.
>
> On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 16:32:10 -0700 (MST), VE3NFK wrote:
> > Check out TRX-Manager 30 day trial and one-time purchase 3 yr support..
> >
> > full feature control of K3, KX3 and most other rigs; most rotators,
> SteppIR,
> > logging, and much more...
> > been around a long time and regularly improved by Laurent.
> >
> > http://trx-manager.com/index.html
> >
> > sold by PDA in USA
> > http://www.hosenose.com/TRX-Manager/trx-manager_features.aspx
> > and integrates with Logic if you want.
> >
> > 73 John VE3NFK
> >
> > disclaimer - long time alpha /beta tester
> >
> >
> > --
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John K9UWA-2

Re: K3 - HRD rig control

NK7Z

Re: K3 - HRD rig control

In reply to this post by Robin Moseley

Robin,

A quick question... If for instance, the ARRL were to change input
format for LoTW in such a way as to break HRD, and after a year of
ownership, would the corrective update be free, or would the HRD user
have to pay for an update to get the correction?

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On Fri, 2015-06-12 at 22:36 +0100, Robin Moseley wrote:

> Hi ,
> I will be working for HRD as a European support guy.
>
> The way it works is .. you try HRD for 30 days for free.
> If you like it, you pay once only for the version you tried and for
> upgrades for 12 months, you also get customer support from 3 dedicated
> support guys and developers.
> If you are happy with the version you are running, and don't need support or
> updates, then you don't need to keep paying, you have bought the license
> for the software.
>
> If you decide that you want the full features of the latest versions,
> support for new radios, windows operating systems etc, country list updates
> and another 12 months of the support team, then it is half the original
> purchase price per year.. so that is just under $50.
>
> Robin G1MHU
>
>
>
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W1KSZ

Re: K3 - HRD rig control

Well, I'm not a Lawyer, but I did sleep at a Comfort Inn once ....

If something happens to break HRD, which is/was out of HRD's
control, then I expect you would pay for the fix.

They can't be held responsible for the actions of others.

73, Dick, W1KSZ

On 6/13/2015 6:13 AM, David Cole wrote:
> Robin,
>
> A quick question... If for instance, the ARRL were to change input
> format for LoTW in such a way as to break HRD, and after a year of
> ownership, would the corrective update be free, or would the HRD user
> have to pay for an update to get the correction?
>

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N7US

Re: K3 - HRD rig control

I've been a delighted used of the DXLab Suite for several years. It's free
and always will be.

See http://www.dxlabsuite.com/ and
http://www.dxlabsuite.com/differentiators.htm .

73, Jim N7US

-----Original Message-----

Well, I'm not a Lawyer, but I did sleep at a Comfort Inn once ....

If something happens to break HRD, which is/was out of HRD's control, then I
expect you would pay for the fix.

They can't be held responsible for the actions of others.

73, Dick, W1KSZ

On 6/13/2015 6:13 AM, David Cole wrote:
> Robin,
>
> A quick question... If for instance, the ARRL were to change input
> format for LoTW in such a way as to break HRD, and after a year of
> ownership, would the corrective update be free, or would the HRD user
> have to pay for an update to get the correction?
>

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John K9UWA-2

Re: K3 - HRD rig control

In reply to this post by Ian Kahn, KM4IK

Can you access and change the setup menu's in the K3 with this newer version
of HRD?
73 de
John k9uwa

> Yes. The HRD team worked diligently when they released version 6.x and
> corrected the flaws in the rig control portion of the software that
> affected the K3. Users can now control nearly any function of the K3 from
> HRD. I've used the entire HRD suite for many years and have been very happy with
> it.
>
> 73 de,
>
> --Ian
> Ian Kahn, KM4IK

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NK7Z

Re: K3 - HRD rig control

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Hi Dick,

Just checking to see if the HRD software package can be rendered broken
by outside parties without a free update, after a year of ownership has
passed.

HRD itself is free to update, or not update, as they see fit, I
understand that.

I am not suggesting that they "must" update, but rather asking the
question-- would they update for free, if the software became useless
for reasons out of their control, and after a year of ownership.

"Useless" being defined as some major part being broken, like LoTW, or
K3 controls...
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On Sat, 2015-06-13 at 06:38 -0700, Richard Solomon wrote:

> Well, I'm not a Lawyer, but I did sleep at a Comfort Inn once ....
>
> If something happens to break HRD, which is/was out of HRD's
> control, then I expect you would pay for the fix.
>
> They can't be held responsible for the actions of others.
>
> 73, Dick, W1KSZ
>
> On 6/13/2015 6:13 AM, David Cole wrote:
> > Robin,
> >
> > A quick question... If for instance, the ARRL were to change input
> > format for LoTW in such a way as to break HRD, and after a year of
> > ownership, would the corrective update be free, or would the HRD user
> > have to pay for an update to get the correction?
> >
>
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Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: K3 - HRD rig control

I doubt that *any* software company will guarantee free support for
changes by third party companies/organizations (particularly since
some companies like QRZ.com seem to make changes just to break third
party software on a regular basis).

In a fee for support model like HRD, LLC., free updates for any change
in third party hardware/software would be economic suicide.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2015-06-13 10:30 AM, David Cole wrote:

> Hi Dick,
>
> Just checking to see if the HRD software package can be rendered broken
> by outside parties without a free update, after a year of ownership has
> passed.
>
> HRD itself is free to update, or not update, as they see fit, I
> understand that.
>
> I am not suggesting that they "must" update, but rather asking the
> question-- would they update for free, if the software became useless
> for reasons out of their control, and after a year of ownership.
>
> "Useless" being defined as some major part being broken, like LoTW, or
> K3 controls...
>

Rick Ruhl

Re: K3 - HRD rig control

In reply to this post by W1KSZ

In cases like this, fixes are free for the current version.

New features are what are going to be charged.

Bug fixes are free for the lifetime of the product.

> On Jun 13, 2015, at 09:38, Richard Solomon <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Well, I'm not a Lawyer, but I did sleep at a Comfort Inn once ....
>
> If something happens to break HRD, which is/was out of HRD's
> control, then I expect you would pay for the fix.
>
> They can't be held responsible for the actions of others.
>
> 73, Dick, W1KSZ
>
>> On 6/13/2015 6:13 AM, David Cole wrote:
>> Robin,
>>
>> A quick question... If for instance, the ARRL were to change input
>> format for LoTW in such a way as to break HRD, and after a year of
>> ownership, would the corrective update be free, or would the HRD user
>> have to pay for an update to get the correction?
>
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NK7Z

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Thank you, that answered my question...
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On Sat, 2015-06-13 at 11:24 -0400, HRD Support wrote:

> In cases like this, fixes are free for the current version.
>
> New features are what are going to be charged.
>
> Bug fixes are free for the lifetime of the product.
>
>
>
> > On Jun 13, 2015, at 09:38, Richard Solomon <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Well, I'm not a Lawyer, but I did sleep at a Comfort Inn once ....
> >
> > If something happens to break HRD, which is/was out of HRD's
> > control, then I expect you would pay for the fix.
> >
> > They can't be held responsible for the actions of others.
> >
> > 73, Dick, W1KSZ
> >
> >> On 6/13/2015 6:13 AM, David Cole wrote:
> >> Robin,
> >>
> >> A quick question... If for instance, the ARRL were to change input
> >> format for LoTW in such a way as to break HRD, and after a year of
> >> ownership, would the corrective update be free, or would the HRD user
> >> have to pay for an update to get the correction?
> >
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Barry K3NDM

Re: K3 - HRD rig control

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If you didn't want to renew your subscription, you could manually upload
to LoTW by exporting the contacts in ADIF format, running TQSL, and
uploading directly to LoTW. It's no where as convenient, but it is
doable until such time as you want to jump back in.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

On 6/13/2015 9:38 AM, Richard Solomon wrote:

> Well, I'm not a Lawyer, but I did sleep at a Comfort Inn once ....
>
> If something happens to break HRD, which is/was out of HRD's
> control, then I expect you would pay for the fix.
>
> They can't be held responsible for the actions of others.
>
> 73, Dick, W1KSZ
>
> On 6/13/2015 6:13 AM, David Cole wrote:
>> Robin,
>>
>> A quick question... If for instance, the ARRL were to change input
>> format for LoTW in such a way as to break HRD, and after a year of
>> ownership, would the corrective update be free, or would the HRD user
>> have to pay for an update to get the correction?
>>
>
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Bill-3

K3 - simple HRD questions

In reply to this post by Rick Ruhl

Would someone running the latest version of HRD on their K3 kindly tell
me if the buttons for Notch, NR, ATU, and a few others properly change
color to indicate selection?

What controls are now accessible via the HRD panel that were not on 5.x
- meaning defined on the layout panel?

Thank you,

Bill W2BLC K-Line

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Hi Joe,

I am comfortable with the answer I got from the vendor... They support
things for the current version... Looks like they are taking the
Microsoft model, support current version.

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On Sat, 2015-06-13 at 10:54 -0400, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

> I doubt that *any* software company will guarantee free support for
> changes by third party companies/organizations (particularly since
> some companies like QRZ.com seem to make changes just to break third
> party software on a regular basis).
>
> In a fee for support model like HRD, LLC., free updates for any change
> in third party hardware/software would be economic suicide.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 2015-06-13 10:30 AM, David Cole wrote:
> > Hi Dick,
> >
> > Just checking to see if the HRD software package can be rendered broken
> > by outside parties without a free update, after a year of ownership has
> > passed.
> >
> > HRD itself is free to update, or not update, as they see fit, I
> > understand that.
> >
> > I am not suggesting that they "must" update, but rather asking the
> > question-- would they update for free, if the software became useless
> > for reasons out of their control, and after a year of ownership.
> >
> > "Useless" being defined as some major part being broken, like LoTW, or
> > K3 controls...
> >
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Bill-3

Re: K3 - simple HRD questions

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Well, I got no answers - so I downloaded and installed the trial version
and have answered my own questions.

Bill W2BLC K-Line

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