[K3] Heil 600 ohm balanced mic (PR40) connecting to rear

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[K3] Heil 600 ohm balanced mic (PR40) connecting to rear

mike
I would like to connect my 600 ohm balanced mic PR 77D to the K3s rear mic
connection. The mic connector is XLR 3-pin. I cannot figure out if the K3
rear connection can accept a balance mic. The adapters I have tried produce
hum and lead me to believe they force it to unbalance.

Any help appreciated. 73  ..mike  AI6II



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Re: [K3] Heil 600 ohm balanced mic (PR40) connecting to rear

Michael Blake
Mike,  I connect my EV-RE50ND to the rear 1/8” connector on my K3s without issue.  You need an XLR to TS 1/8” male cable or adapter.  The mic does not care if it is balanced or unbalanced but if you use an XLR to TRS adapter the ring will be floating free and will cause a problem.

You can buy the correct 3 pin XLR to 1/8” TS Male cable at your local Guitar Center or similar place for less that $20….

Select the rear mic. Gain high and bias off.  The very same mic and cable also work perfectly with my KX3.
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> On Jun 7, 2018, at 11:56 AM, mike <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I would like to connect my 600 ohm balanced mic PR 77D to the K3s rear mic
> connection. The mic connector is XLR 3-pin. I cannot figure out if the K3
> rear connection can accept a balance mic. The adapters I have tried produce
> hum and lead me to believe they force it to unbalance.
>
> Any help appreciated. 73  ..mike  AI6II
>
>
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Re: [K3] Heil 600 ohm balanced mic (PR40) connecting to rear

Bob McGraw - K4TAX
If you wish to make your own cable using a XLR connector and a 1/8"
Tip-Sleeve connector,   XLR pin #2 connect to Tip, XLR pin #3 and pin #1
to the Sleeve.   In the XLR world, pin #1 is ground/shield, pin #2 is
hot (+ve) and pin #3 is cold (-ve) Thus for unbalanced use, pin #1 and
pin #3 must be connected.

Also, the mike bias must be OFF via the configuration selection in the
radio.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 6/7/2018 11:06 AM, Michael Blake wrote:

> Mike,  I connect my EV-RE50ND to the rear 1/8” connector on my K3s without issue.  You need an XLR to TS 1/8” male cable or adapter.  The mic does not care if it is balanced or unbalanced but if you use an XLR to TRS adapter the ring will be floating free and will cause a problem.
>
> You can buy the correct 3 pin XLR to 1/8” TS Male cable at your local Guitar Center or similar place for less that $20….
>
> Select the rear mic. Gain high and bias off.  The very same mic and cable also work perfectly with my KX3.
> Michael Blake
> [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Jun 7, 2018, at 11:56 AM, mike <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I would like to connect my 600 ohm balanced mic PR 77D to the K3s rear mic
>> connection. The mic connector is XLR 3-pin. I cannot figure out if the K3
>> rear connection can accept a balance mic. The adapters I have tried produce
>> hum and lead me to believe they force it to unbalance.
>>
>> Any help appreciated. 73  ..mike  AI6II
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [K3] Heil 600 ohm balanced mic (PR40) connecting to rear

Jim Brown-10
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On 6/7/2018 9:06 AM, Michael Blake wrote:
> You can buy the correct 3 pin XLR to 1/8” TS Male cable at your local Guitar Center or similar place for less that $20….

Or you can make one with two connectors, some cable, and a soldering iron.

Wire pins 1 and 3 together and to the shield of the 1/8-in connector,
connect pin 2 to the tip.

73, Jim K9YC


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Re: [K3] Heil 600 ohm balanced mic (PR40) connecting to rear

Clay Autery-2
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And if for some reason you have a TRS available and not TS
connector....  just wire the ring and shield to Pins 1 and 3, and still
pin 2 to tip.

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On 06/07/18 13:59, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:

> If you wish to make your own cable using a XLR connector and a 1/8"
> Tip-Sleeve connector,   XLR pin #2 connect to Tip, XLR pin #3 and pin
> #1 to the Sleeve.   In the XLR world, pin #1 is ground/shield, pin #2
> is hot (+ve) and pin #3 is cold (-ve) Thus for unbalanced use, pin #1
> and pin #3 must be connected.
>
> Also, the mike bias must be OFF via the configuration selection in the
> radio.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> On 6/7/2018 11:06 AM, Michael Blake wrote:
>> Mike,  I connect my EV-RE50ND to the rear 1/8” connector on my K3s
>> without issue.  You need an XLR to TS 1/8” male cable or adapter. 
>> The mic does not care if it is balanced or unbalanced but if you use
>> an XLR to TRS adapter the ring will be floating free and will cause a
>> problem.
>>
>> You can buy the correct 3 pin XLR to 1/8” TS Male cable at your local
>> Guitar Center or similar place for less that $20….
>>
>> Select the rear mic. Gain high and bias off.  The very same mic and
>> cable also work perfectly with my KX3.
>> Michael Blake
>> [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 7, 2018, at 11:56 AM, mike <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would like to connect my 600 ohm balanced mic PR 77D to the K3s
>>> rear mic
>>> connection. The mic connector is XLR 3-pin. I cannot figure out if
>>> the K3
>>> rear connection can accept a balance mic. The adapters I have tried
>>> produce
>>> hum and lead me to believe they force it to unbalance.
>>>
>>> Any help appreciated. 73  ..mike  AI6II

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Re: [K3] Heil 600 ohm balanced mic (PR40) connecting to rear

Russ-2
Yup
A little bit of common mode
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Date: 6/7/18 5:16 PM (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Heil 600 ohm balanced mic (PR40) connecting to rear

And if for some reason you have a TRS available and not TS
connector....  just wire the ring and shield to Pins 1 and 3, and still
pin 2 to tip.

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 06/07/18 13:59, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:

> If you wish to make your own cable using a XLR connector and a 1/8"
> Tip-Sleeve connector,   XLR pin #2 connect to Tip, XLR pin #3 and pin
> #1 to the Sleeve.   In the XLR world, pin #1 is ground/shield, pin #2
> is hot (+ve) and pin #3 is cold (-ve) Thus for unbalanced use, pin #1
> and pin #3 must be connected.
>
> Also, the mike bias must be OFF via the configuration selection in the
> radio.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> On 6/7/2018 11:06 AM, Michael Blake wrote:
>> Mike,  I connect my EV-RE50ND to the rear 1/8” connector on my K3s
>> without issue.  You need an XLR to TS 1/8” male cable or adapter.
>> The mic does not care if it is balanced or unbalanced but if you use
>> an XLR to TRS adapter the ring will be floating free and will cause a
>> problem.
>>
>> You can buy the correct 3 pin XLR to 1/8” TS Male cable at your local
>> Guitar Center or similar place for less that $20….
>>
>> Select the rear mic. Gain high and bias off.  The very same mic and
>> cable also work perfectly with my KX3.
>> Michael Blake
>> [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 7, 2018, at 11:56 AM, mike <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would like to connect my 600 ohm balanced mic PR 77D to the K3s
>>> rear mic
>>> connection. The mic connector is XLR 3-pin. I cannot figure out if
>>> the K3
>>> rear connection can accept a balance mic. The adapters I have tried
>>> produce
>>> hum and lead me to believe they force it to unbalance.
>>>
>>> Any help appreciated. 73  ..mike  AI6II

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