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ae4pb

K3 / K3S Station setup question

It's been a while and I'm a huge proponent of measure twice cut once. I'm
building a hutch for my operating desk. The desk is 4' wide x 28" deep (2'
4"). I'm right handed and my primary mode will be CW. I have both a Bencher
paddle and a generic straight key. I need about 18" wide for my K3S and
future P3. The K3S is 10"x10"x7.25"(stand extended and air gap above it.
Planning to use a 1 x or 2 x 12 for the shelf and 1x for the vertical
supports.

Not sure on right to left arrangement with me sitting in the middle. Was
thinking keys, then P3, then radio, then space to the left.
Allowing 3/4" for the end support, 9 inches for the keys to store, 3/4" for
a vertical support, then 18" or so for the P3, then K3S, the 3/4 for
vertical Support. That brings me 29.25" from the Right edge leaving 18" (if
we subtract 3/4" for the end vertical support) for the Eventual AMP. If I
eventually get the External antenna tuner it will go on top of the shelf or
on top of the amp directly if it will fit.

Does this sound like a proper setup to operate CW with the arm on the
desk..etc.. turn dials with the left hand..etc.. I'll have a laptop/monitors
on top of the shelf and a smallish keyboard/mouse on the desktop.

Just trying to get it all worked out so I don't have to remake this thing
several times.. why re-invent the wheel when someone has already done it
right?

Thanks in advance.
Jerry Moore
K3S SN# TBA Wednesday

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James Bennett

Re: K3 / K3S Station setup question

Jerry,

I’m also a righty and built part of my desk / operating setup. Mine is a little different, as I have a 27” iMac - sitting off to the left. But here’s what my setup is like:

- A 54” wide, 24” deep double pedestal desk with a solid core 80” wide x 32” deep door sitting on top. This gives me a w-i-d-e operating surface.

- The iMac sits off to the left.

On top I build a double high “riser” out of 3/4” oak plywood, faced with oak strips.; the bottom riser is 4-1/2” high x 48” wide. Under it are my two Begali keys - a paddle and a straight key. Also gives me room to slide my wireless keyboard and track pad underneath when not in use.

The upper riser is 5-1/2” high x 20” wide and sits on the left end of the lower riser, basically directly in front of me. Sitting on the second level (the top of the long riser) are, from left to right: K3, P3, KPA500, homebrew 144 MHz 80 watt amp, and an MFJ-4245MV power supply. My KAT500 tuner sits atop the KPA500. This arrangement puts the K3/P3 directly in front of me, and allows me to move the keys around on the desk under them as I want.

On top of that third level, the upper riser, I have sitting an ASUS 23” second monitor, a KX3, and my Tascam external sound card.

The upper surface of each riser is covered by black, non-stick, rubberized, “shelf paper” I got at a fabric store. Keeps stuff from sliding around.

I like having the K3/P3 directly in front of me and the keys under them. I previously had this equipment in place without any risers and was not 100% happy with the layout or the ability to use the equipment easily.

Jim / W6JHB

> On Monday, Sep 14, 2015, at Monday, 12:28 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
>
> It's been a while and I'm a huge proponent of measure twice cut once. I'm
> building a hutch for my operating desk. The desk is 4' wide x 28" deep (2'
> 4"). I'm right handed and my primary mode will be CW. I have both a Bencher
> paddle and a generic straight key. I need about 18" wide for my K3S and
> future P3. The K3S is 10"x10"x7.25"(stand extended and air gap above it.
> Planning to use a 1 x or 2 x 12 for the shelf and 1x for the vertical
> supports.
>
> Not sure on right to left arrangement with me sitting in the middle. Was
> thinking keys, then P3, then radio, then space to the left.
> Allowing 3/4" for the end support, 9 inches for the keys to store, 3/4" for
> a vertical support, then 18" or so for the P3, then K3S, the 3/4 for
> vertical Support. That brings me 29.25" from the Right edge leaving 18" (if
> we subtract 3/4" for the end vertical support) for the Eventual AMP. If I
> eventually get the External antenna tuner it will go on top of the shelf or
> on top of the amp directly if it will fit.
>
> Does this sound like a proper setup to operate CW with the arm on the
> desk..etc.. turn dials with the left hand..etc.. I'll have a laptop/monitors
> on top of the shelf and a smallish keyboard/mouse on the desktop.
>
> Just trying to get it all worked out so I don't have to remake this thing
> several times.. why re-invent the wheel when someone has already done it
> right?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Jerry Moore
> K3S SN# TBA Wednesday
>
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NK7Z

Re: K3 / K3S Station setup question

In reply to this post by ae4pb

What about the new Speaker? :)
--
Thanks and 73's,
For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
www.nk7z.net

For MixW support see;
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
For Dopplergram information see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
For MM-SSTV see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info

On Mon, 2015-09-14 at 15:28 -0400, [hidden email] wrote:

> It's been a while and I'm a huge proponent of measure twice cut once. I'm
> building a hutch for my operating desk. The desk is 4' wide x 28" deep (2'
> 4"). I'm right handed and my primary mode will be CW. I have both a Bencher
> paddle and a generic straight key. I need about 18" wide for my K3S and
> future P3. The K3S is 10"x10"x7.25"(stand extended and air gap above it.
> Planning to use a 1 x or 2 x 12 for the shelf and 1x for the vertical
> supports.
>
> Not sure on right to left arrangement with me sitting in the middle. Was
> thinking keys, then P3, then radio, then space to the left.
> Allowing 3/4" for the end support, 9 inches for the keys to store, 3/4" for
> a vertical support, then 18" or so for the P3, then K3S, the 3/4 for
> vertical Support. That brings me 29.25" from the Right edge leaving 18" (if
> we subtract 3/4" for the end vertical support) for the Eventual AMP. If I
> eventually get the External antenna tuner it will go on top of the shelf or
> on top of the amp directly if it will fit.
>
> Does this sound like a proper setup to operate CW with the arm on the
> desk..etc.. turn dials with the left hand..etc.. I'll have a laptop/monitors
> on top of the shelf and a smallish keyboard/mouse on the desktop.
>
> Just trying to get it all worked out so I don't have to remake this thing
> several times.. why re-invent the wheel when someone has already done it
> right?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Jerry Moore
> K3S SN# TBA Wednesday
>
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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: K3 / K3S Station setup question

In reply to this post by ae4pb

Jer,

Make the space for the K3S and P3 1.5 inches wider than the two units
combined - you need some space to grip the sides of the radio and P3
after you have both inserted in the hutch.
You will not need any more than 3/4 stock for the shelf and top of the
hutch. If think you need extra support for the shelf, glue a 2 inch
wide strip to the back edge of the shelf and top (under the shelf).
That way you have maximum view in the front of the hutch. That will also
keep the hutch from racking if you fit the ends tight.

Since your hutch will not be close to the end of the desk, just build it
and place it loose on the desk. That way you can move it from side to
side to see what position is going to work best for you. Once you
determine that position you can fasten it to the desktop if desired.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/14/2015 3:28 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
> It's been a while and I'm a huge proponent of measure twice cut once. I'm
> building a hutch for my operating desk. The desk is 4' wide x 28" deep (2'
> 4"). I'm right handed and my primary mode will be CW. I have both a Bencher
> paddle and a generic straight key. I need about 18" wide for my K3S and
> future P3. The K3S is 10"x10"x7.25"(stand extended and air gap above it.
> Planning to use a 1 x or 2 x 12 for the shelf and 1x for the vertical
> supports.
>
>

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Jerry Moore

Re: K3 / K3S Station setup question

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That will likely go on top when I get it eventually :)

-----Original Message-----
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Cole
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 3:55 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 / K3S Station setup question

What about the new Speaker? :)
--
Thanks and 73's,
For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
www.nk7z.net

For MixW support see;
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
For Dopplergram information see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
For MM-SSTV see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info

On Mon, 2015-09-14 at 15:28 -0400, [hidden email] wrote:
> It's been a while and I'm a huge proponent of measure twice cut once.
> I'm building a hutch for my operating desk. The desk is 4' wide x 28" deep
(2'
> 4"). I'm right handed and my primary mode will be CW. I have both a
> Bencher paddle and a generic straight key. I need about 18" wide for
> my K3S and future P3. The K3S is 10"x10"x7.25"(stand extended and air gap
above it.

> Planning to use a 1 x or 2 x 12 for the shelf and 1x for the vertical
> supports.
>
> Not sure on right to left arrangement with me sitting in the middle.
> Was thinking keys, then P3, then radio, then space to the left.
> Allowing 3/4" for the end support, 9 inches for the keys to store,
> 3/4" for a vertical support, then 18" or so for the P3, then K3S, the
> 3/4 for vertical Support. That brings me 29.25" from the Right edge
> leaving 18" (if we subtract 3/4" for the end vertical support) for the
> Eventual AMP. If I eventually get the External antenna tuner it will
> go on top of the shelf or on top of the amp directly if it will fit.
>
> Does this sound like a proper setup to operate CW with the arm on the
> desk..etc.. turn dials with the left hand..etc.. I'll have a
> laptop/monitors on top of the shelf and a smallish keyboard/mouse on the

desktop.

>
> Just trying to get it all worked out so I don't have to remake this
> thing several times.. why re-invent the wheel when someone has already
> done it right?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Jerry Moore
> K3S SN# TBA Wednesday
>
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Vic Rosenthal

Re: K3 / K3S Station setup question

In reply to this post by ae4pb

Here's an idea to consider -- when I built mine I made the shelf out of 3/4" plywood with 1 x 4's attached to the front and back of the shelf. Screws and glue. This makes the actual thickness of the shelf about 3-1/2", but makes it strong enough that you don't need vertical supports except at the ends. Vertical supports always seem to be in the wrong places!

Vic 4X6GP/K2VCO

> On Sep 14, 2015, at 10:28 PM, <[hidden email]> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> It's been a while and I'm a huge proponent of measure twice cut once. I'm
> building a hutch for my operating desk. The desk is 4' wide x 28" deep (2'
> 4"). I'm right handed and my primary mode will be CW. I have both a Bencher
> paddle and a generic straight key. I need about 18" wide for my K3S and
> future P3. The K3S is 10"x10"x7.25"(stand extended and air gap above it.
> Planning to use a 1 x or 2 x 12 for the shelf and 1x for the vertical
> supports.
>
> Not sure on right to left arrangement with me sitting in the middle. Was
> thinking keys, then P3, then radio, then space to the left.
> Allowing 3/4" for the end support, 9 inches for the keys to store, 3/4" for
> a vertical support, then 18" or so for the P3, then K3S, the 3/4 for
> vertical Support. That brings me 29.25" from the Right edge leaving 18" (if
> we subtract 3/4" for the end vertical support) for the Eventual AMP. If I
> eventually get the External antenna tuner it will go on top of the shelf or
> on top of the amp directly if it will fit.
>
> Does this sound like a proper setup to operate CW with the arm on the
> desk..etc.. turn dials with the left hand..etc.. I'll have a laptop/monitors
> on top of the shelf and a smallish keyboard/mouse on the desktop.
>
> Just trying to get it all worked out so I don't have to remake this thing
> several times.. why re-invent the wheel when someone has already done it
> right?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Jerry Moore
> K3S SN# TBA Wednesday
>
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NK7Z

Re: K3 / K3S Station setup question

In reply to this post by Jerry Moore

Hi,
Just making the point that as things are added, you will need more
space... I once built a tight cabinet like that, and within a year, it
was too small...
--
Thanks and 73's,
For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
www.nk7z.net

For MixW support see;
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
For Dopplergram information see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
For MM-SSTV see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info

On Mon, 2015-09-14 at 21:13 -0400, Jerry Moore wrote:

> That will likely go on top when I get it eventually :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of David
> Cole
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 3:55 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 / K3S Station setup question
>
> What about the new Speaker? :)
> --
> Thanks and 73's,
> For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
> www.nk7z.net
>
> For MixW support see;
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
> For Dopplergram information see:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
> For MM-SSTV see:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info
>
>
> On Mon, 2015-09-14 at 15:28 -0400, [hidden email] wrote:
> > It's been a while and I'm a huge proponent of measure twice cut once.
> > I'm building a hutch for my operating desk. The desk is 4' wide x 28" deep
> (2'
> > 4"). I'm right handed and my primary mode will be CW. I have both a
> > Bencher paddle and a generic straight key. I need about 18" wide for
> > my K3S and future P3. The K3S is 10"x10"x7.25"(stand extended and air gap
> above it.
> > Planning to use a 1 x or 2 x 12 for the shelf and 1x for the vertical
> > supports.
> >
> > Not sure on right to left arrangement with me sitting in the middle.
> > Was thinking keys, then P3, then radio, then space to the left.
> > Allowing 3/4" for the end support, 9 inches for the keys to store,
> > 3/4" for a vertical support, then 18" or so for the P3, then K3S, the
> > 3/4 for vertical Support. That brings me 29.25" from the Right edge
> > leaving 18" (if we subtract 3/4" for the end vertical support) for the
> > Eventual AMP. If I eventually get the External antenna tuner it will
> > go on top of the shelf or on top of the amp directly if it will fit.
> >
> > Does this sound like a proper setup to operate CW with the arm on the
> > desk..etc.. turn dials with the left hand..etc.. I'll have a
> > laptop/monitors on top of the shelf and a smallish keyboard/mouse on the
> desktop.
> >
> > Just trying to get it all worked out so I don't have to remake this
> > thing several times.. why re-invent the wheel when someone has already
> > done it right?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> > Jerry Moore
> > K3S SN# TBA Wednesday
> >
> > ______________________________________________________________
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Gary Gregory-2

Re: K3 / K3S Station setup question

Humph....i just completed a nice desk in the motor home.
Why was I not informed that it needed to be wider to allow for a new external speaker?

Pretty ordinary communication from Elecraft I reckon. I should have been given a heads up.

Sigh.....

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: "David Cole" <[hidden email]>
Sent: ‎15/‎09/‎2015 10:39 PM
To: "Jerry Moore" <[hidden email]>
Cc: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 / K3S Station setup question

Hi,
Just making the point that as things are added, you will need more
space... I once built a tight cabinet like that, and within a year, it
was too small...
--
Thanks and 73's,
For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
www.nk7z.net

For MixW support see;
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
For Dopplergram information see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
For MM-SSTV see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info

On Mon, 2015-09-14 at 21:13 -0400, Jerry Moore wrote:

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Jerry Moore

Re: K3 / K3S Station setup question

In reply to this post by NK7Z

Makes sense. I'm just hoping to go UP if needed or maybe adding small toggles under the shelf that extend antenna rotator controls if I get that far. At this point I'm debating a 4 square setup for 160/80/(?40) homebrew until I'm at the point to do something better. That gives me some experimentation projects to work on. 160/80/40 due to the sunspots being low. Those bands should be optimal I'd think.
Jer

-----Original Message-----
From: David Cole [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 8:39 AM
To: Jerry Moore
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 / K3S Station setup question

Hi,
Just making the point that as things are added, you will need more space... I once built a tight cabinet like that, and within a year, it was too small...
--
Thanks and 73's,
For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
www.nk7z.net

For MixW support see;
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
For Dopplergram information see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
For MM-SSTV see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info

On Mon, 2015-09-14 at 21:13 -0400, Jerry Moore wrote:

> That will likely go on top when I get it eventually :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> David Cole
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 3:55 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 / K3S Station setup question
>
> What about the new Speaker? :)
> --
> Thanks and 73's,
> For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
> www.nk7z.net
>
> For MixW support see;
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
> For Dopplergram information see:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
> For MM-SSTV see:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info
>
>
> On Mon, 2015-09-14 at 15:28 -0400, [hidden email] wrote:
> > It's been a while and I'm a huge proponent of measure twice cut once.
> > I'm building a hutch for my operating desk. The desk is 4' wide x
> > 28" deep
> (2'
> > 4"). I'm right handed and my primary mode will be CW. I have both a
> > Bencher paddle and a generic straight key. I need about 18" wide for
> > my K3S and future P3. The K3S is 10"x10"x7.25"(stand extended and
> > air gap
> above it.
> > Planning to use a 1 x or 2 x 12 for the shelf and 1x for the
> > vertical supports.
> >
> > Not sure on right to left arrangement with me sitting in the middle.
> > Was thinking keys, then P3, then radio, then space to the left.
> > Allowing 3/4" for the end support, 9 inches for the keys to store,
> > 3/4" for a vertical support, then 18" or so for the P3, then K3S,
> > the
> > 3/4 for vertical Support. That brings me 29.25" from the Right edge
> > leaving 18" (if we subtract 3/4" for the end vertical support) for
> > the Eventual AMP. If I eventually get the External antenna tuner it
> > will go on top of the shelf or on top of the amp directly if it will fit.
> >
> > Does this sound like a proper setup to operate CW with the arm on
> > the desk..etc.. turn dials with the left hand..etc.. I'll have a
> > laptop/monitors on top of the shelf and a smallish keyboard/mouse on
> > the
> desktop.
> >
> > Just trying to get it all worked out so I don't have to remake this
> > thing several times.. why re-invent the wheel when someone has
> > already done it right?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> > Jerry Moore
> > K3S SN# TBA Wednesday
> >
> > ______________________________________________________________
> > Elecraft mailing list
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ae4pb

Re: K3 / K3S Station setup question

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You COULD just buy a larger motor home :D

Jer

From: Gary [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 8:49 AM
To: [hidden email]; Jerry Moore
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 / K3S Station setup question

Humph....i just completed a nice desk in the motor home.
Why was I not informed that it needed to be wider to allow for a new external speaker?

Pretty ordinary communication from Elecraft I reckon. I should have been given a heads up.

Sigh.....

Gary

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Hi,
Just making the point that as things are added, you will need more
space... I once built a tight cabinet like that, and within a year, it
was too small...
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Re: K3 / K3S Station setup question

Jer,

Dammit, why didn't I think of that.

(grin)
Gary

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You COULD just buy a larger motor home :D
Jer

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Humph....i just completed a nice desk in the motor home.
Why was I not informed that it needed to be wider to allow for a new external speaker?

Pretty ordinary communication from Elecraft I reckon. I should have been given a heads up.

Sigh.....

Gary

From: David Cole
Sent: ‎15/‎09/‎2015 10:39 PM
To: Jerry Moore
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 / K3S Station setup question
Hi,
Just making the point that as things are added, you will need more
space... I once built a tight cabinet like that, and within a year, it
was too small...
--
Thanks and 73's,
For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
www.nk7z.net

For MixW support see;
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
For Dopplergram information see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
For MM-SSTV see:
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Re: K3 / K3S Station setup question

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I build furniture as one of my hobbies. Therefore I could build a
custom, made to fit, each piece of equipment enclosure or desk. However,
my station is in a reconfigured built in book case system. Cabinets are
located below with doors, and above, shelves are extended to depths of
12" to 18" for equipment and operation, extend to the ceiling. Plus it
is some 6 ft wide. A series of holes in each shelf allows running
cables left to right and up and down. Over some 20 years it has
contained and supported various pieces of equipment from a fully
configured Collins S Line plus a 5 transceiver accumulation and now down
to two transceivers and one amplifier and tuner. Being on the 2nd
floor of the house, all feed lines and rotor control traverse the attic
and drop down through the ceiling to the tuner and coax switch
arrangement at the operating position.

The point being.........flexibility is a must with any installation and
configuration.

73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S s/n 10,163

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> Hi,
> Just making the point that as things are added, you will need more
> space... I once built a tight cabinet like that, and within a year, it
> was too small...

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Re: K3 / K3S Station setup question

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Sorry that you were not previously informed.

For the record, Elecraft will be announcing something new in the future
that will impact the space required for your station. The size may vary
from one inch wide to 19 inches (rack mount), and will vary in height
from one inch to 24 inches.

Now you have been informed about the size of future Elecraft products.
Make your desk plans suitable for that expansion.:-)

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/15/2015 8:48 AM, Gary wrote:
> Humph....i just completed a nice desk in the motor home.
> Why was I not informed that it needed to be wider to allow for a new external speaker?
>
> Pretty ordinary communication from Elecraft I reckon. I should have been given a heads up.
>
>

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Re: K3 / K3S Station setup question

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Build it so you can get behind the desk to connect things up. You should see the back of my desk!
73,
Fred KE7X

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Hi,
Just making the point that as things are added, you will need more space... I once built a tight cabinet like that, and within a year, it was too small...
--
Thanks and 73's,
For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
www.nk7z.net

For MixW support see;
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
For Dopplergram information see:
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Re: K3 / K3S Station setup question

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Don,

When will they announce a ham-oriented,
antenna-equipped motor home? :-)

Gary may be very disappointed not to have heard
about that one early!

73, Phil W7OX

On 9/15/15 6:12 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Sorry that you were not previously informed.
>
> For the record, Elecraft will be announcing
> something new in the future that will impact the
> space required for your station. The size may
> vary from one inch wide to 19 inches (rack
> mount), and will vary in height from one inch to
> 24 inches.
>
> Now you have been informed about the size of
> future Elecraft products. Make your desk plans
> suitable for that expansion.:-)
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 9/15/2015 8:48 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Humph....i just completed a nice desk in the
>> motor home.
>> Why was I not informed that it needed to be
>> wider to allow for a new external speaker?
>>
>> Pretty ordinary communication from Elecraft I
>> reckon. I should have been given a heads up.

Jim Brown-10

Re: K3 / K3S Station setup question

In reply to this post by Cady, Fred

On Tue,9/15/2015 6:20 AM, Cady, Fred wrote:
> Build it so you can get behind the desk to connect things up. You should see the back of my desk!

YES! I have the same problem -- my desk is anchored to the wall, with a
few inches between desk and wall for cables to pass to shelves above and
below. If I were starting from scratch, I would put the desk and shelves
on wheels that I could get behind.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: K3 / K3S Station setup question

Jim / all
I found these small 3” disks at the local ACE Hardware it assists the table to glide across the floor…
I needed 6 to make it easy to glide the desk.

Frank KG9H

> On Sep 15, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Jim Brown <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> On Tue,9/15/2015 6:20 AM, Cady, Fred wrote:
>> Build it so you can get behind the desk to connect things up. You should see the back of my desk!
>
> YES! I have the same problem -- my desk is anchored to the wall, with a few inches between desk and wall for cables to pass to shelves above and below. If I were starting from scratch, I would put the desk and shelves on wheels that I could get behind.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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FINALLY - I got out the camera and took a photo of my desk setup. I haven’t put it on QRZ yet - may do something different over there. But for now, look at my web site under “My Equipment”. Right at the top is a shot of the desk and a description of what’s on top. Http://www.w6jhb.com <http://www.w6jhb.com/>

BTW - I also added a handful of new QSL’s to the “Favorite QSL’s” link - some are pretty cool!!

73, Jim / W6JHB

> On Monday, Sep 14, 2015, at Monday, 1:00 PM, Jerry Moore <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Any pictures? QRZ and your personal site are missing pics of your setup :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Bennett [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 3:50 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 / K3S Station setup question
>
> Jerry,
>
> I’m also a righty and built part of my desk / operating setup. Mine is a little different, as I have a 27” iMac - sitting off to the left. But here’s what my setup is like:
>
> - A 54” wide, 24” deep double pedestal desk with a solid core 80” wide x 32” deep door sitting on top. This gives me a w-i-d-e operating surface.
>
> - The iMac sits off to the left.
>
> On top I build a double high “riser” out of 3/4” oak plywood, faced with oak strips.; the bottom riser is 4-1/2” high x 48” wide. Under it are my two Begali keys - a paddle and a straight key. Also gives me room to slide my wireless keyboard and track pad underneath when not in use.
>
> The upper riser is 5-1/2” high x 20” wide and sits on the left end of the lower riser, basically directly in front of me. Sitting on the second level (the top of the long riser) are, from left to right: K3, P3, KPA500, homebrew 144 MHz 80 watt amp, and an MFJ-4245MV power supply. My KAT500 tuner sits atop the KPA500. This arrangement puts the K3/P3 directly in front of me, and allows me to move the keys around on the desk under them as I want.
>
> On top of that third level, the upper riser, I have sitting an ASUS 23” second monitor, a KX3, and my Tascam external sound card.
>
> The upper surface of each riser is covered by black, non-stick, rubberized, “shelf paper” I got at a fabric store. Keeps stuff from sliding around.
>
> I like having the K3/P3 directly in front of me and the keys under them. I previously had this equipment in place without any risers and was not 100% happy with the layout or the ability to use the equipment easily.
>
> Jim / W6JHB

Gary Gregory-2

Re: K3 / K3S Station setup question

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Don,

Thank you for the heads up. I will save up for a 40 footer
Chuckle
Gary

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 / K3S Station setup question

Sorry that you were not previously informed.

For the record, Elecraft will be announcing something new in the future
that will impact the space required for your station. The size may vary
from one inch wide to 19 inches (rack mount), and will vary in height
from one inch to 24 inches.

Now you have been informed about the size of future Elecraft products.
Make your desk plans suitable for that expansion.:-)

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/15/2015 8:48 AM, Gary wrote:
> Humph....i just completed a nice desk in the motor home.
> Why was I not informed that it needed to be wider to allow for a new external speaker?
>
> Pretty ordinary communication from Elecraft I reckon. I should have been given a heads up.
>
>

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Re: K3 / K3S Station setup question

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Phil,

I'm in.

Ya think Wayne would like the specifications of my Mosely beam for it's incorporation?

Hope Wayne puts me at the top of the list as a field tester.

(grin)

Gary

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Don,

When will they announce a ham-oriented,
antenna-equipped motor home? :-)

Gary may be very disappointed not to have heard
about that one early!

73, Phil W7OX

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