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Greetings to all,
The K3/K3s is an excellent radio for digital modes due to the ease of interfacing with a computer if desired. A computer is not even needed for some digital modes, and I have tried that successfully. I have mentioned in the past that I had tried the free software for digital voice on HF called 'FreeDV'. I had worked a Canadian ham a few times using it and he has been keeping in contact with me via email encouraging me to get back into it. I am starting to get up to date again, and I found accurate reviews of it on http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/11016 by K2RWF and WA0TPN. I think you will find the reviews interesting and informative. Notice that the reviews seem to be either at, or near, 5/5 or 0/5. I think both of the reviews I mentioned answer why that is. I will keep my experience mute and let you glean aye/nay from the reviews. Whether you approve of digital voice or not, the K3/K3s is a natural for using it, and it's fun. (As always with digital modes, be kind to your finals.) FYI, Dick, n0ce -- ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I would like to see Elecraft built it into their firmware.
I have a mcHF QRP radio that has Digital Voice in it From: Richard Fjeld <[hidden email]> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:13 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV Greetings to all, The K3/K3s is an excellent radio for digital modes due to the ease of interfacing with a computer if desired. A computer is not even needed for some digital modes, and I have tried that successfully. I have mentioned in the past that I had tried the free software for digital voice on HF called 'FreeDV'. I had worked a Canadian ham a few times using it and he has been keeping in contact with me via email encouraging me to get back into it. I am starting to get up to date again, and I found accurate reviews of it on http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/11016 by K2RWF and WA0TPN. I think you will find the reviews interesting and informative. Notice that the reviews seem to be either at, or near, 5/5 or 0/5. I think both of the reviews I mentioned answer why that is. I will keep my experience mute and let you glean aye/nay from the reviews. Whether you approve of digital voice or not, the K3/K3s is a natural for using it, and it's fun. (As always with digital modes, be kind to your finals.) FYI, Dick, n0ce -- ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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While the mcHF has some digital audio circuitry, I don't believe it
provides a digital voice mode. FreeDV is a very narrow-band (1.1 kHz) digital voice mode using the open-source Codec2, developed by VK5DGR. One can run FreeDV without a computer using the Rowetel SM1000 adapter (https://www.tindie.com/products/edwin/sm1000-freedv-adpapter/). This should work nicely with a KX2 or KX3 for portable FreeDV operation. I haven't tried doing that but it looks fairly straightforward. Bob, N7XY On 3/27/17 2:28 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: > I would like to see Elecraft built it into their firmware. > I have a mcHF QRP radio that has Digital Voice in it > > From: Richard Fjeld <[hidden email]> > To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]> > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:13 PM > Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV > > Greetings to all, > > The K3/K3s is an excellent radio for digital modes due to the ease of > interfacing with a computer if desired. A computer is not even needed > for some digital modes, and I have tried that successfully. > > I have mentioned in the past that I had tried the free software for > digital voice on HF called 'FreeDV'. I had worked a Canadian ham a few > times using it and he has been keeping in contact with me via email > encouraging me to get back into it. I am starting to get up to date > again, and I found accurate reviews of it on > http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/11016 by K2RWF and WA0TPN. I think > you will find the reviews interesting and informative. > > Notice that the reviews seem to be either at, or near, 5/5 or 0/5. I > think both of the reviews I mentioned answer why that is. I will keep > my experience mute and let you glean aye/nay from the reviews. Whether > you approve of digital voice or not, the K3/K3s is a natural for using > it, and it's fun. (As always with digital modes, be kind to your finals.) > > FYI, > Dick, n0ce > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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The mcHF does indeed have FreeDV built in RX and TX (I'm looking right at it)
I'm running ver 1.5.7 of the firmware (Ia little old as I have not updated it recently) From: Bob Nielsen <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV While the mcHF has some digital audio circuitry, I don't believe it provides a digital voice mode. FreeDV is a very narrow-band (1.1 kHz) digital voice mode using the open-source Codec2, developed by VK5DGR. One can run FreeDV without a computer using the Rowetel SM1000 adapter (https://www.tindie.com/products/edwin/sm1000-freedv-adpapter/). This should work nicely with a KX2 or KX3 for portable FreeDV operation. I haven't tried doing that but it looks fairly straightforward. Bob, N7XY On 3/27/17 2:28 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: > I would like to see Elecraft built it into their firmware. > I have a mcHF QRP radio that has Digital Voice in it > > From: Richard Fjeld <[hidden email]> > To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]> > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:13 PM > Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV > > Greetings to all, > > The K3/K3s is an excellent radio for digital modes due to the ease of > interfacing with a computer if desired. A computer is not even needed > for some digital modes, and I have tried that successfully. > > I have mentioned in the past that I had tried the free software for > digital voice on HF called 'FreeDV'. I had worked a Canadian ham a few > times using it and he has been keeping in contact with me via email > encouraging me to get back into it. I am starting to get up to date > again, and I found accurate reviews of it on > http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/11016 by K2RWF and WA0TPN. I think > you will find the reviews interesting and informative. > > Notice that the reviews seem to be either at, or near, 5/5 or 0/5. I > think both of the reviews I mentioned answer why that is. I will keep > my experience mute and let you glean aye/nay from the reviews. Whether > you approve of digital voice or not, the K3/K3s is a natural for using > it, and it's fun. (As always with digital modes, be kind to your finals.) > > FYI, > Dick, n0ce > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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There is a different group working on the firmware now http://df8oe.github.io/mchf-github/
As I understand it the FreeDV code is open source so Elecraft would not need to reinvent the wheel. From: Bob Nielsen <[hidden email]> To: Harry Yingst <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV Strangely the mcHF website doesn't seem to mention it but that's great. On 3/27/17 6:15 PM, Harry Yingst wrote: The mcHF does indeed have FreeDV built in RX and TX (I'm looking right at it) I'm running ver 1.5.7 of the firmware (Ia little old as I have not updated it recently) From: Bob Nielsen <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV While the mcHF has some digital audio circuitry, I don't believe it provides a digital voice mode. FreeDV is a very narrow-band (1.1 kHz) digital voice mode using the open-source Codec2, developed by VK5DGR. One can run FreeDV without a computer using the Rowetel SM1000 adapter (https://www.tindie.com/products/edwin/sm1000-freedv-adpapter/). This should work nicely with a KX2 or KX3 for portable FreeDV operation. I haven't tried doing that but it looks fairly straightforward. Bob, N7XY On 3/27/17 2:28 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: > I would like to see Elecraft built it into their firmware. > I have a mcHF QRP radio that has Digital Voice in it > > From: Richard Fjeld <[hidden email]> > To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]> > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:13 PM > Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV > > Greetings to all, > > The K3/K3s is an excellent radio for digital modes due to the ease of > interfacing with a computer if desired. A computer is not even needed > for some digital modes, and I have tried that successfully. > > I have mentioned in the past that I had tried the free software for > digital voice on HF called 'FreeDV'. I had worked a Canadian ham a few > times using it and he has been keeping in contact with me via email > encouraging me to get back into it. I am starting to get up to date > again, and I found accurate reviews of it on > http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/11016 by K2RWF and WA0TPN. I think > you will find the reviews interesting and informative. > > Notice that the reviews seem to be either at, or near, 5/5 or 0/5. I > think both of the reviews I mentioned answer why that is. I will keep > my experience mute and let you glean aye/nay from the reviews. Whether > you approve of digital voice or not, the K3/K3s is a natural for using > it, and it's fun. (As always with digital modes, be kind to your finals.) > > FYI, > Dick, n0ce > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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The more I look at the mcHF, the more impressed I become. Once I get
caught up with my current projects I'll seriously consider getting one. The FreeDV code and more importantly Codec2 are indeed open source. I don't know how much room there is in the K3/KX3/KX2 firmware to add something like this but if possible, it would be quite useful in getting more FreeDV activity going. in the meantime, I'll make up some cables to connect my KX2 to my SM1000 and give it a try. Bob, N7XY On 3/27/17 6:54 PM, Harry Yingst wrote: > There is a different group working on the firmware now > http://df8oe.github.io/mchf-github/ > > > As I understand it the FreeDV code is open source so Elecraft would > not need to reinvent the wheel. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Bob Nielsen <[hidden email]> > *To:* Harry Yingst <[hidden email]> > *Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2017 9:49 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV > > Strangely the mcHF website doesn't seem to mention it but that's great. > > On 3/27/17 6:15 PM, Harry Yingst wrote: >> The mcHF does indeed have FreeDV built in RX and TX (I'm looking >> right at it) >> >> I'm running ver 1.5.7 of the firmware (Ia little old as I have not >> updated it recently) >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* Bob Nielsen <[hidden email]> <mailto:[hidden email]> >> *To:* [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >> *Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2017 7:13 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV >> >> While the mcHF has some digital audio circuitry, I don't believe it >> provides a digital voice mode. >> >> FreeDV is a very narrow-band (1.1 kHz) digital voice mode using the >> open-source Codec2, developed by VK5DGR. One can run FreeDV without a >> computer using the Rowetel SM1000 adapter >> (https://www.tindie.com/products/edwin/sm1000-freedv-adpapter/). This >> should work nicely with a KX2 or KX3 for portable FreeDV operation. I >> haven't tried doing that but it looks fairly straightforward. >> >> Bob, N7XY >> >> >> On 3/27/17 2:28 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: >> > I would like to see Elecraft built it into their firmware. >> > I have a mcHF QRP radio that has Digital Voice in it >> > >> > From: Richard Fjeld <[hidden email] >> <mailto:[hidden email]>> >> > To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email] >> <mailto:[hidden email]>> >> > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:13 PM >> > Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV >> > >> > Greetings to all, >> > >> > The K3/K3s is an excellent radio for digital modes due to the ease of >> > interfacing with a computer if desired. A computer is not even needed >> > for some digital modes, and I have tried that successfully. >> > >> > I have mentioned in the past that I had tried the free software for >> > digital voice on HF called 'FreeDV'. I had worked a Canadian ham a few >> > times using it and he has been keeping in contact with me via email >> > encouraging me to get back into it. I am starting to get up to date >> > again, and I found accurate reviews of it on >> > http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/11016 by K2RWF and WA0TPN. I >> think >> > you will find the reviews interesting and informative. >> > >> > Notice that the reviews seem to be either at, or near, 5/5 or 0/5. I >> > think both of the reviews I mentioned answer why that is. I will keep >> > my experience mute and let you glean aye/nay from the reviews. Whether >> > you approve of digital voice or not, the K3/K3s is a natural for using >> > it, and it's fun. (As always with digital modes, be kind to your >> finals.) >> > >> > FYI, >> > Dick, n0ce >> > >> > >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net <http://www.qsl.net/> >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >> >> > > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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The mcHF is nice but it is still a work in progress.
But it does show what can be done. -------- Original message -------- From: Bob Nielsen <[hidden email]> Date: 2017-03-27 10:46 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Harry Yingst <[hidden email]>, Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV The more I look at the mcHF, the more impressed I become. Once I get caught up with my current projects I'll seriously consider getting one. The FreeDV code and more importantly Codec2 are indeed open source. I don't know how much room there is in the K3/KX3/KX2 firmware to add something like this but if possible, it would be quite useful in getting more FreeDV activity going. in the meantime, I'll make up some cables to connect my KX2 to my SM1000 and give it a try. Bob, N7XY On 3/27/17 6:54 PM, Harry Yingst wrote: There is a different group working on the firmware now http://df8oe.github.io/mchf-github/ As I understand it the FreeDV code is open source so Elecraft would not need to reinvent the wheel. From: Bob Nielsen <[hidden email]> To: Harry Yingst <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV Strangely the mcHF website doesn't seem to mention it but that's great. On 3/27/17 6:15 PM, Harry Yingst wrote: The mcHF does indeed have FreeDV built in RX and TX (I'm looking right at it) I'm running ver 1.5.7 of the firmware (Ia little old as I have not updated it recently) From: Bob Nielsen <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV While the mcHF has some digital audio circuitry, I don't believe it provides a digital voice mode. FreeDV is a very narrow-band (1.1 kHz) digital voice mode using the open-source Codec2, developed by VK5DGR. One can run FreeDV without a computer using the Rowetel SM1000 adapter (https://www.tindie.com/products/edwin/sm1000-freedv-adpapter/). This should work nicely with a KX2 or KX3 for portable FreeDV operation. I haven't tried doing that but it looks fairly straightforward. Bob, N7XY On 3/27/17 2:28 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: > I would like to see Elecraft built it into their firmware. > I have a mcHF QRP radio that has Digital Voice in it > > From: Richard Fjeld <[hidden email]> > To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]> > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:13 PM > Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV > > Greetings to all, > > The K3/K3s is an excellent radio for digital modes due to the ease of > interfacing with a computer if desired. A computer is not even needed > for some digital modes, and I have tried that successfully. > > I have mentioned in the past that I had tried the free software for > digital voice on HF called 'FreeDV'. I had worked a Canadian ham a few > times using it and he has been keeping in contact with me via email > encouraging me to get back into it. I am starting to get up to date > again, and I found accurate reviews of it on > http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/11016 by K2RWF and WA0TPN. I think > you will find the reviews interesting and informative. > > Notice that the reviews seem to be either at, or near, 5/5 or 0/5. I > think both of the reviews I mentioned answer why that is. I will keep > my experience mute and let you glean aye/nay from the reviews. Whether > you approve of digital voice or not, the K3/K3s is a natural for using > it, and it's fun. (As always with digital modes, be kind to your finals.) > > FYI, > Dick, n0ce > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I'd wait until David VK5DGR gets the FreeDV bit rate lower which will
improve the Eb/n0 requirements and bring the performance closer to that of SSB. If you're not already following along on David's blog it's worth a read (http://www.rowetel.com/) his writing style is easy going and he explains things well. His current work on Codec2 700C surpassing MELP 600 in performance along with some new modem ideas will push the limits of what's possible with Digital voice on HF. It will not be long and the performance of FreeDV will be equal too if not surpass SSB on a standard HF channel. Yes this can be done already, however you do end up sounding like donald duck and a bit robotic for my liking on current technology. The work on Codec2 will change this. While the FreeDV code base (Modem + Codec2) is open source the integration work is not insignificant. The current FreeDV codebase in the SM1000 runs on a STM32V405xxx 32-bit ARM core clocked at 168MHz with a real FPU and no RTOS it runs bare metal. That is some serious beans in terms of DSP processing !!! The effort involved in bringing this into any product should not be underestimated, there is still some very serious work to do which results in $$$ spent. While FreeDV is under active development interfacing a linux based laptop to the K3 and using this to keep up with the Jones's is perhaps the best course of action. Those with the K3s are already ahead of those with a stock K3 since they already have the internal USB sound card. However making cables for laptops and PTT cct's isn't hard either. Once the performance of FreeDV surpasses that of standard SSB then would it be time for internal integration work to begin. I'm fingers crossed that the processors and DSP in the next iteration of the K-line will have enough processing beans to "answer the meaning of life the universe and everything" in real time. As David tells me on the local repeater most mornings "MIPS are cheap". That is about the time frame I'd expect both of these technologies to collide. YMMV. 73 Matthew VK5ZM On 28 March 2017 at 04:40, Richard Fjeld <[hidden email]> wrote: > Greetings to all, > > The K3/K3s is an excellent radio for digital modes due to the ease of > interfacing with a computer if desired. A computer is not even needed > for some digital modes, and I have tried that successfully. > > I have mentioned in the past that I had tried the free software for > digital voice on HF called 'FreeDV'. I had worked a Canadian ham a few > times using it and he has been keeping in contact with me via email > encouraging me to get back into it. I am starting to get up to date > again, and I found accurate reviews of it on > http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/11016 by K2RWF and WA0TPN. I think > you will find the reviews interesting and informative. > > Notice that the reviews seem to be either at, or near, 5/5 or 0/5. I > think both of the reviews I mentioned answer why that is. I will keep > my experience mute and let you glean aye/nay from the reviews. Whether > you approve of digital voice or not, the K3/K3s is a natural for using > it, and it's fun. (As always with digital modes, be kind to your finals.) > > FYI, > Dick, n0ce > > > -- > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I second this! I've played with FreeDV too and it has some great possibilities. The only issue run into is there's only a small group of people using it so it's often hard to find someone else on to talk to. I find It works best on the higher (and quieter) frequencies such as 20m and up. So you have to catch an opening and find people that are the right distance away and monitoring in FreeDV mode.
I really hope we can get more people interested in FreeDV and if it could be added into the K and KX series firmware update that would help it grow. Brian ve3bwp Message: 6 Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 16:08:16 -0700 From: Bob Nielsen <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed While the mcHF has some digital audio circuitry, I don't believe it provides a digital voice mode. FreeDV is a very narrow-band (1.1 kHz) digital voice mode using the open-source Codec2, developed by VK5DGR. One can run FreeDV without a computer using the Rowetel SM1000 adapter (https://www.tindie.com/products/edwin/sm1000-freedv-adpapter/). This should work nicely with a KX2 or KX3 for portable FreeDV operation. I haven't tried doing that but it looks fairly straightforward. Bob, N7XY On 3/27/17 2:28 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: > I would like to see Elecraft built it into their firmware. > I have a mcHF QRP radio that has Digital Voice in it > > From: Richard Fjeld <[hidden email]> > To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]> > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:13 PM > Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV > > Greetings to all, > > The K3/K3s is an excellent radio for digital modes due to the ease of > interfacing with a computer if desired. A computer is not even needed > for some digital modes, and I have tried that successfully. > > I have mentioned in the past that I had tried the free software for > digital voice on HF called 'FreeDV'. I had worked a Canadian ham a few > times using it and he has been keeping in contact with me via email > encouraging me to get back into it. I am starting to get up to date > again, and I found accurate reviews of it on > http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/11016 by K2RWF and WA0TPN. I think > you will find the reviews interesting and informative. > > Notice that the reviews seem to be either at, or near, 5/5 or 0/5. I > think both of the reviews I mentioned answer why that is. I will keep > my experience mute and let you glean aye/nay from the reviews. Whether > you approve of digital voice or not, the K3/K3s is a natural for using > it, and it's fun. (As always with digital modes, be kind to your finals.) > > FYI, > Dick, n0ce > > ------------------------------ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I had my mcHF sitting here monitoring 14.236 in FreeDV Mode and one day it started talking. At the time I was on the phone with a coworker who also was a ham so he understood my Nerd Out moment of excitement. From: Brian Pietrzyk <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV I second this! I've played with FreeDV too and it has some great possibilities. The only issue run into is there's only a small group of people using it so it's often hard to find someone else on to talk to. I find It works best on the higher (and quieter) frequencies such as 20m and up. So you have to catch an opening and find people that are the right distance away and monitoring in FreeDV mode. I really hope we can get more people interested in FreeDV and if it could be added into the K and KX series firmware update that would help it grow. Brian ve3bwp Message: 6 Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 16:08:16 -0700 From: Bob Nielsen <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed While the mcHF has some digital audio circuitry, I don't believe it provides a digital voice mode. FreeDV is a very narrow-band (1.1 kHz) digital voice mode using the open-source Codec2, developed by VK5DGR. One can run FreeDV without a computer using the Rowetel SM1000 adapter (https://www.tindie.com/products/edwin/sm1000-freedv-adpapter/). This should work nicely with a KX2 or KX3 for portable FreeDV operation. I haven't tried doing that but it looks fairly straightforward. Bob, N7XY On 3/27/17 2:28 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: > I would like to see Elecraft built it into their firmware. > I have a mcHF QRP radio that has Digital Voice in it > > From: Richard Fjeld <[hidden email]> > To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]> > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:13 PM > Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV > > Greetings to all, > > The K3/K3s is an excellent radio for digital modes due to the ease of > interfacing with a computer if desired. A computer is not even needed > for some digital modes, and I have tried that successfully. > > I have mentioned in the past that I had tried the free software for > digital voice on HF called 'FreeDV'. I had worked a Canadian ham a few > times using it and he has been keeping in contact with me via email > encouraging me to get back into it. I am starting to get up to date > again, and I found accurate reviews of it on > http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/11016 by K2RWF and WA0TPN. I think > you will find the reviews interesting and informative. > > Notice that the reviews seem to be either at, or near, 5/5 or 0/5. I > think both of the reviews I mentioned answer why that is. I will keep > my experience mute and let you glean aye/nay from the reviews. Whether > you approve of digital voice or not, the K3/K3s is a natural for using > it, and it's fun. (As always with digital modes, be kind to your finals.) > > FYI, > Dick, n0ce > > ------------------------------ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Another fellow about 125 miles away experimented with me on 75 meters
during a summer evening in conditions we would not have wanted to operate in otherwise. We were surprised to find that fading was more of a problem. Dick, n0ce On 3/28/2017 10:57 AM, Brian Pietrzyk wrote: > I second this! I've played with FreeDV too and it has some great possibilities. The only issue run into is there's only a small group of people using it so it's often hard to find someone else on to talk to. I find It works best on the higher (and quieter) frequencies such as 20m and up. So you have to catch an opening and find people that are the right distance away and monitoring in FreeDV mode. > > I really hope we can get more people interested in FreeDV and if it could be added into the K and KX series firmware update that would help it grow. > > Brian ve3bwp > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I loaded FreeDV today, on an Ubuntu i5-64bit laptop. It works quite
well. I heard no calls on 14.236 MHZ, but the receive function is working. I'm having the usual fun setting up PTT, but it will come along over time. Tried doing the same thing on the Windoze 7-64 box, and Panda AV decided it was a virus and sidetracked it, meaning it IS a virus. That would be the installer program. Has anyone else had this problem? Just curious. I've had other programs trigger Panda to flush them, but nothing like this. Thanks and 73, matt W6NIA On 3/27/2017 11:10 AM, Richard Fjeld wrote: > Greetings to all, > > The K3/K3s is an excellent radio for digital modes due to the ease of > interfacing with a computer if desired. A computer is not even needed > for some digital modes, and I have tried that successfully. > > I have mentioned in the past that I had tried the free software for > digital voice on HF called 'FreeDV'. I had worked a Canadian ham a few > times using it and he has been keeping in contact with me via email > encouraging me to get back into it. I am starting to get up to date > again, and I found accurate reviews of it on > http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/11016 by K2RWF and WA0TPN. I think > you will find the reviews interesting and informative. > > Notice that the reviews seem to be either at, or near, 5/5 or 0/5. I > think both of the reviews I mentioned answer why that is. I will keep > my experience mute and let you glean aye/nay from the reviews. Whether > you approve of digital voice or not, the K3/K3s is a natural for using > it, and it's fun. (As always with digital modes, be kind to your finals.) > > FYI, > Dick, n0ce > > -- "A delay is better than a disaster." -- unknonwn Matt Zilmer, W6NIA [Shiraz] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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There are several FreeDV videos on YouTube. Here is one that is a quick
start guide. I don't know if there are restrictions for posting links. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zijJ556cs08 Dick, n0ce On 3/28/2017 8:00 PM, Matt Zilmer wrote: > I loaded FreeDV today, on an Ubuntu i5-64bit laptop. It works quite > well. I heard no calls on 14.236 MHZ, but the receive function is > working. I'm having the usual fun setting up PTT, but it will come > along over time. > > Tried doing the same thing on the Windoze 7-64 box, and Panda AV > decided it was a virus and sidetracked it, meaning it IS a virus. > That would be the installer program. Has anyone else had this > problem? Just curious. I've had other programs trigger Panda to flush > them, but nothing like this. > > Thanks and 73, > > matt W6NIA > > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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