K3/KPA500/KAT500 key interrupter w/W8ZR Station Pro 1?
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Setting up the above config w/W8ZR Station Pro 1 and K2. The Station Pro
1 allows switching between two rigs whilst using one microphone/one keyer/one set of speakers/headphones. It will also allow the use of the KPA500 and KAT500 with either the K3 or K2. Currently I have the K3 Line set up with Enhanced KPA500/KAT500 operation. It works seamlessly. Adding the K2 and W8ZR Station Pro 1 so I may have access to KPA500 and KAT500; do I need to use the key line interruption in the circuit between K3 key out and KAT500 PTT RLY as if a Steppir IR/W2 were in the circuit? Tips or suggestions? Tnx y 73 Tom HP1XT ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I have tow microphones I'm using with my K3. One is part of the Yamaha CM500
headset, plugged into the rear panel and the other is a Kenwood MC-50 desk model, plugged into the front panel. To save using multiple menu changes to swap between the two, I will be writing a macro to use one or two buttons to implement this. My problem is that each microphone requires a different gain setting and when manually changing the menu settings between front and rear panel, the gain settings don't track and have to be set separately on the front panel gain control for each microphone. Does anyone know if it's possible to change the mic gain setting as part of a macro and possibly compression levels as well? 73, Alan. G4GNX ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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This will select the Front Mic and set compression to 20 and Mic Gain to
13: MG013;CP020;MN053;DN;DN;MN255; This will select the Rear Mic and set the Mic Gain to 9 and Compression to 20: MG009;CP020;MN053;DN;DN;UP;MN255; 73, Tom - KQ5S On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 6:16 PM, Alan. G4GNX <[hidden email]> wrote: > I have tow microphones I'm using with my K3. One is part of the Yamaha > CM500 headset, plugged into the rear panel and the other is a Kenwood MC-50 > desk model, plugged into the front panel. > > To save using multiple menu changes to swap between the two, I will be > writing a macro to use one or two buttons to implement this. > > My problem is that each microphone requires a different gain setting and > when manually changing the menu settings between front and rear panel, the > gain settings don't track and have to be set separately on the front panel > gain control for each microphone. > > Does anyone know if it's possible to change the mic gain setting as part > of a macro and possibly compression levels as well? > > 73, > > Alan. G4GNX > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I wanted to have two headsets connected, one front and one rear.
Different settings including bias. Can bias be set via macro also is it set individually by port? Thanks, Jim KG0KP -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 7:03 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 microphone settings This will select the Front Mic and set compression to 20 and Mic Gain to 13: MG013;CP020;MN053;DN;DN;MN255; This will select the Rear Mic and set the Mic Gain to 9 and Compression to 20: MG009;CP020;MN053;DN;DN;UP;MN255; 73, Tom - KQ5S On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 6:16 PM, Alan. G4GNX <[hidden email]> wrote: > I have tow microphones I'm using with my K3. One is part of the Yamaha > CM500 headset, plugged into the rear panel and the other is a Kenwood > MC-50 desk model, plugged into the front panel. > > To save using multiple menu changes to swap between the two, I will be > writing a macro to use one or two buttons to implement this. > > My problem is that each microphone requires a different gain setting > and when manually changing the menu settings between front and rear > panel, the gain settings don't track and have to be set separately on > the front panel gain control for each microphone. > > Does anyone know if it's possible to change the mic gain setting as > part of a macro and possibly compression levels as well? > > 73, > > Alan. G4GNX > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Both High/Low mic gain and bias settings are set by and recalled by port.
73, matt W6NIA On 4/2/2017 8:34 AM, Jim Miller wrote: > I wanted to have two headsets connected, one front and one rear. > Different settings including bias. > Can bias be set via macro also is it set individually by port? > Thanks, Jim KG0KP > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Tom > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 7:03 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 microphone settings > > This will select the Front Mic and set compression to 20 and Mic Gain to > 13: > > MG013;CP020;MN053;DN;DN;MN255; > > This will select the Rear Mic and set the Mic Gain to 9 and Compression to > 20: > > MG009;CP020;MN053;DN;DN;UP;MN255; > > > 73, > Tom - KQ5S > > On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 6:16 PM, Alan. G4GNX <[hidden email]> > wrote: > >> I have tow microphones I'm using with my K3. One is part of the Yamaha >> CM500 headset, plugged into the rear panel and the other is a Kenwood >> MC-50 desk model, plugged into the front panel. >> >> To save using multiple menu changes to swap between the two, I will be >> writing a macro to use one or two buttons to implement this. >> >> My problem is that each microphone requires a different gain setting >> and when manually changing the menu settings between front and rear >> panel, the gain settings don't track and have to be set separately on >> the front panel gain control for each microphone. >> >> Does anyone know if it's possible to change the mic gain setting as >> part of a macro and possibly compression levels as well? >> >> 73, >> >> Alan. G4GNX >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email >> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to >> [hidden email] >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to [hidden email] > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] -- "A delay is better than a disaster." -- unknonwn Matt Zilmer, W6NIA [Shiraz] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I have the same set up. My front mic requires bias. My rear does not.
The radio remembers the bias setting for the front and rear mic so I do not have to adjust it 73, Tom - KQ5S On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Jim Miller <[hidden email]> wrote: > I wanted to have two headsets connected, one front and one rear. > Different settings including bias. > Can bias be set via macro also is it set individually by port? > Thanks, Jim KG0KP > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Tom > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 7:03 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 microphone settings > > This will select the Front Mic and set compression to 20 and Mic Gain to > 13: > > MG013;CP020;MN053;DN;DN;MN255; > > This will select the Rear Mic and set the Mic Gain to 9 and Compression to > 20: > > MG009;CP020;MN053;DN;DN;UP;MN255; > > > 73, > Tom - KQ5S > > On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 6:16 PM, Alan. G4GNX <[hidden email]> > wrote: > > > I have tow microphones I'm using with my K3. One is part of the Yamaha > > CM500 headset, plugged into the rear panel and the other is a Kenwood > > MC-50 desk model, plugged into the front panel. > > > > To save using multiple menu changes to swap between the two, I will be > > writing a macro to use one or two buttons to implement this. > > > > My problem is that each microphone requires a different gain setting > > and when manually changing the menu settings between front and rear > > panel, the gain settings don't track and have to be set separately on > > the front panel gain control for each microphone. > > > > Does anyone know if it's possible to change the mic gain setting as > > part of a macro and possibly compression levels as well? > > > > 73, > > > > Alan. G4GNX > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > > [hidden email] > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message > delivered to [hidden email] > > > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Thanks to all who sent in their favorite macros. They all make sense and I
will implement one very shortly. The other day I tried to setup bias on the rear panel and no bias on the front panel manually in the menu and there was something strange going on, where whatever I set on one panel was copied to the other one and even when I changed one to it's opposite, that got copied to the other one. I have yet to verify this as I haven't had time to do so, but I'm hoping it was just a senior moment illusion. :-) 73, Alan. G4GNX -----Original Message----- From: Tom Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 6:23 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 microphone settings I have the same set up. My front mic requires bias. My rear does not. The radio remembers the bias setting for the front and rear mic so I do not have to adjust it 73, Tom - KQ5S On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Jim Miller <[hidden email]> wrote: > I wanted to have two headsets connected, one front and one rear. > Different settings including bias. > Can bias be set via macro also is it set individually by port? > Thanks, Jim KG0KP > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I have an Edgeport USB/RS232 converter which gives me 4 RS232 ports from one
USB connection. I have the K3 connected to 1 port and the KPA500 connected to another port and I will be connecting other facilities to the remaining ports. I have FLDIGI controlling the K3 at present and I want to add LOG4OM and other software which will all need to access the K3. I will be using LP-Bridge to automatically route the various programs to and from the K3, which should not be an issue. I have been advised that updating K3 firmware via LP-Bridge is a no-no, so what I want to do is to assign the K3 'real' port number (specified in Edgeport) within LP-Bridge, but to turn LP-Bridge off when I want to update firmware and just point the K3 Utility to the K3 'real' port number directly. Does this seem like a reasonable thing to do? 73, Alan. G4GNX ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Alan,
Yes, turning LP-Bridge off and connecting K3 Utility the the COM port that is directly connected to the K3 is not only reasonable, but necessary. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/5/2017 4:59 AM, Alan. G4GNX wrote: > > I have been advised that updating K3 firmware via LP-Bridge is a no-no, > so what I want to do is to assign the K3 'real' port number (specified > in Edgeport) within LP-Bridge, but to turn LP-Bridge off when I want to > update firmware and just point the K3 Utility to the K3 'real' port > number directly. > > Does this seem like a reasonable thing to do? ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Thanks Don.
Just trying to be ultra careful as I'll be using the same PC and port and don't want to brick the K3. 73, Alan. G4GNX -----Original Message----- From: Don Wilhelm Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 12:13 PM To: Alan. G4GNX ; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RS232 port selection Alan, Yes, turning LP-Bridge off and connecting K3 Utility the the COM port that is directly connected to the K3 is not only reasonable, but necessary. 73, Don W3FPR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Alan,
While it is "not nice" to 'brick' the K3, there is quick and easy recovery. Just follow the instructions in the manual or the K3 Utility Help file to 'Force a Firmware Download' - it takes only a minute or so. The worst part is the initial gut-feeling alarm signals that go off - it is not disaster, and easily fixed. It has only happened to me once, and the cause was a computer glitch during a firmware download. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/5/2017 8:25 AM, Alan. G4GNX wrote: > Thanks Don. > > Just trying to be ultra careful as I'll be using the same PC and port > and don't want to brick the K3. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Ha. I've not managed it yet Don, but I read of others occasionally in panic.
I realise that there's a firmware force procedure, but as you say, I don't want the panic or a heart attack. :-) One thing I always do is to backup all settings after a permanent change. 73, Alan. G4GNX -----Original Message----- From: Don Wilhelm Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 1:57 PM To: Alan. G4GNX ; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RS232 port selection Alan, While it is "not nice" to 'brick' the K3, there is quick and easy recovery. Just follow the instructions in the manual or the K3 Utility Help file to 'Force a Firmware Download' - it takes only a minute or so. The worst part is the initial gut-feeling alarm signals that go off - it is not disaster, and easily fixed. It has only happened to me once, and the cause was a computer glitch during a firmware download. 73, Don W3FPR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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while i have been successful using MicroHam MK2R's virtual serial
ports for upgrading, AFTER tuning the port CAT connection emulation to none from Elecraft K3......Now I use a serial hard switch and flipping the P3/K3 from the microham to another hard serial poert at the CPU. Joe ( microham) emphatically tell us to NOT to upgrade thru the MicroHam It's so great when this all works as intended. bill At 07:13 AM 4/5/2017, Don Wilhelm wrote: >Alan, > >Yes, turning LP-Bridge off and connecting K3 Utility the the COM >port that is directly connected to the K3 is not only reasonable, >but necessary. > >73, >Don W3FPR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I don't want to start an apps war, but I'd like some information so that I
can make decisions to suit my personal (RF) needs. I've been gradually putting the new shack together and have connected the K3 to the PC using an Edgeport USB, 4 port RS232 facility. I've connected FLDIGI directly and I've installed LOG4OM, although it's not directly connected to the K3 yet. I also have no problems updating firmware on the K3, KPA500 and KAT500 as well as the Icom IC7100, all using separate discrete ports. I now need to make a decision on which bridging software to use for RS232 CAT control (NOT firmware updating). LP-Bridge would seem to be very suitable, or possibly OmniRig, but neither quite as convenient as Win4K3Suite. There are possibly others, but I don't want to generate a massive list here. I'm happy enough to use the Elecraft Utilities for many things, so I ask myself whether I would really need the sophistication of Win4K3Suite, given that I'm happy enough to write my own macros and press buttons on the rig itself. Please don't criticise the various products, but I would be very pleased to hear real life experiences and constructive comparisons of the suites that are available for use with the K3, peripherals and other software, to help me decide the best way to go. 73, Alan. G4GNX ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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