[K3] Low and High Mic gain question

[Randy Moore]

  The latest K3 manual implies that the Low and High mic gain settings
are kept separately for each of the Front and Rear mic connections, but
that's not what's happening here with 4.10 firmware.  Bias is kept
separately.  I have a Kenwood hand mic in the front connection and a
CM500 headset in the rear - very different mic characteristics!

73,
Randy, KS4L
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[Andy Wood]

Hi Randy,

I submitted a feature request via the reflector for this in June:

http://tinyurl.com/2d8h9sh

Andy  VK4KY

[Nr4c]

I think what is needed here are two PF keys, one to set the mic up for
FrontPanel, and one for the RearPanel.  Each would make the necessare gain,
compression, range, bias and equalization settings for the respective mics.
Perhaps someone familiar with the K3 programming could create this and pass
it on as a tutorial, or script or whatever for newbies like myself

...bc   nr4c.

-----Original Message-----
From: Randy Moore [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 4:11 PM
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Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] Low and High Mic gain question

  The latest K3 manual implies that the Low and High mic gain settings
are kept separately for each of the Front and Rear mic connections, but
that's not what's happening here with 4.10 firmware.  Bias is kept
separately.  I have a Kenwood hand mic in the front connection and a
CM500 headset in the rear - very different mic characteristics!

73,
Randy, KS4L
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[N7US]

I have a "user sequence" for DXLab's Commander rig control program
(http://www.dxlabsuite.com/)  if you use that.  It does it all with one
sequence (macro).  I can email it and you can customize it for your
settings.

Jim N7US



-----Original Message-----


I think what is needed here are two PF keys, one to set the mic up for
FrontPanel, and one for the RearPanel.  Each would make the necessare gain,
compression, range, bias and equalization settings for the respective mics.
Perhaps someone familiar with the K3 programming could create this and pass
it on as a tutorial, or script or whatever for newbies like myself

...bc   nr4c.

-----Original Message-----
From: Randy Moore [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 4:11 PM
To: Elecraft Discussion List
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] Low and High Mic gain question

  The latest K3 manual implies that the Low and High mic gain settings
are kept separately for each of the Front and Rear mic connections, but
that's not what's happening here with 4.10 firmware.  Bias is kept
separately.  I have a Kenwood hand mic in the front connection and a
CM500 headset in the rear - very different mic characteristics!

73,
Randy, KS4L


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[George & Jan]

Randy
Below are the Macros I use to select the Front microphone (PF1) & Rear
microphone (FP2).
I have an electrict element in a D104 case for the front and a CM500 headset
in the rear. You can add eq settings to these if you want different settings
for the 2 microphones.

Front Mic
    Name -MicFP
    Macro - MG020;MN053;DN;DN;SWT11
    Assignment - FP1
Rear Mic
    Name -MicRP
    Macro - MG006;MN053;DN;DN;UP;SWT11
    Assignment - FP2

The above will leave you in the Microphone Select menu. I do that to verify
it is correctly gain setting (High-Low). You can add ;MN255 (need the ";" to
separate) to have the end of the macro exit the menu after SWT11.

MGnnn is the mic gain that you use for that microphone
MN053 is Mic Sel menu
UP & DN commands are equivalent to turning the VFO A knob one step.
SWT11 is Tap switch 11 [A/B(1)]. This is a toggle.
Must exit the Mic Set menu.

Error to watch out for -- Pressing FP1 or FP2 twice in a row will give you
the wrong gain setting. That is why I make sure to leave the menu up to
verify it is set correctly!
George
AI4VZ

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From: "Bill Conkling" <[hidden email]>

I think what is needed here are two PF keys, one to set the mic up for
FrontPanel, and one for the RearPanel.

-----Original Message-----
From: Randy Moore [mailto:[hidden email]]

  The latest K3 manual implies that the Low and High mic gain settings
are kept separately for each of the Front and Rear mic connections,

 

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[Randy Moore]

George,

I was on the verge of developing these same macros, but I got hung up on the
toggle of the H & L gain setting being a toggle and not knowing what setting
it is to start with.  Leaving the Menu up seems to be a workable solution to
this.  I guess once you start using the macros for this, and don't do
anything to get out of sync (like using the same macro twice like you say),
this should work.

Thanks!

73,
Randy, KS4L

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:03 AM, George & Jan
<[hidden email]>wrote:

> Randy
> Below are the Macros I use to select the Front microphone (PF1) & Rear
> microphone (FP2).
> I have an electrict element in a D104 case for the front and a CM500
> headset
> in the rear. You can add eq settings to these if you want different
> settings
> for the 2 microphones.
>
> Front Mic
>    Name -MicFP
>    Macro - MG020;MN053;DN;DN;SWT11
>    Assignment - FP1
> Rear Mic
>    Name -MicRP
>    Macro - MG006;MN053;DN;DN;UP;SWT11
>    Assignment - FP2
>
> The above will leave you in the Microphone Select menu. I do that to verify
> it is correctly gain setting (High-Low). You can add ;MN255 (need the ";"
> to
> separate) to have the end of the macro exit the menu after SWT11.
>
> MGnnn is the mic gain that you use for that microphone
> MN053 is Mic Sel menu
> UP & DN commands are equivalent to turning the VFO A knob one step.
> SWT11 is Tap switch 11 [A/B(1)]. This is a toggle.
> Must exit the Mic Set menu.
>
> Error to watch out for -- Pressing FP1 or FP2 twice in a row will give you
> the wrong gain setting. That is why I make sure to leave the menu up to
> verify it is set correctly!
> George
> AI4VZ
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Bill Conkling" <[hidden email]>
>
> I think what is needed here are two PF keys, one to set the mic up for
> FrontPanel, and one for the RearPanel.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randy Moore [mailto:[hidden email]]
>
>  The latest K3 manual implies that the Low and High mic gain settings
> are kept separately for each of the Front and Rear mic connections,
>
>
>
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[oe9fwv]

Bill,

Bill Conkling schrieb am 15 Sep 2010 um 21:29:

> I think what is needed here are two PF keys, one to set the mic up for
> FrontPanel, and one for the RearPanel.  Each would make the necessare gain,
> compression, range, bias and equalization settings for the respective mics.
> Perhaps someone familiar with the K3 programming could create this and pass
> it on as a tutorial, or script or whatever for newbies like myself

I have created two macros for my microphones, Heil headset rear, Icom SM-8
front.
The macro for the Heil is:
MN053;DN;DN;UP;SWT11;MN255;MG030;
The macro for the Icom is:
MN053;DN;DN;SWT11;MN255;MG023;

The problem is that the High / Low setting is toggled and not saved
seperately for the front and rear microphone.
I see two possibilities for the developer to solve it:
either keep it seperately for front / rear or create a dedicated code for
low and high microphone level.
I have also asked for this feature and Wayne's comment was positive. I
don't know where it is on the list.

73! de Werner OE9FWV

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