K3 Manual Error? Software error?

[Lewis Phelps]

I recently acquired a Kenwood MC-90 desk mic from a "for sale" list posted here. It's a great microphone, but with a VERY low output level.  Even with MIC GAIN cranked all the way up to 60, it wouldn't move the ALC indicator unless I literally shouted into it. (Yes, I had selected "FP-H on the mic setup.)

Then I found the following in the K3 Operating Manual, page 52:
For the front-panel mic only, tap [3] to turn on an additional gain stage. Use this only with very low-output mics. An apostrophe will appear after the H , e.g. H ’ .

I rushed to try that.  Result:  "N/A".

But....while fiddling around trying to find out why the [3] button wasn't doing what it was supposed to do, I more or less accidentally tapped the [7] button, and the magic apostrophe appeared after the H.  And most importantly, I now have enough amplification for the Kenwood mic to be functional.

It would seem that there are only two explanations for this:

1. The manual is wrong.
2. Bad firmware.

Anybody know which answer is correct?  I have no way to tell.

Lew N6LEW




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[Jay Kobelin]

Same thing here....sure looks like documentation error

I get a "-" showing up versus a vertical type "apostrophe" after L or H

Jay
W2IJ

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lewis Phelps" <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 2:02 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Manual Error? Software error?


I recently acquired a Kenwood MC-90 desk mic from a "for sale" list posted
here. It's a great microphone, but with a VERY low output level.  Even with
MIC GAIN cranked all the way up to 60, it wouldn't move the ALC indicator
unless I literally shouted into it. (Yes, I had selected "FP-H on the mic
setup.)

Then I found the following in the K3 Operating Manual, page 52:
For the front-panel mic only, tap [3] to turn on an additional gain stage.
Use this only with very low-output mics. An apostrophe will appear after the
H , e.g. H ’ .

I rushed to try that.  Result:  "N/A".

But....while fiddling around trying to find out why the [3] button wasn't
doing what it was supposed to do, I more or less accidentally tapped the [7]
button, and the magic apostrophe appeared after the H.  And most
importantly, I now have enough amplification for the Kenwood mic to be
functional.

It would seem that there are only two explanations for this:

1. The manual is wrong.
2. Bad firmware.

Anybody know which answer is correct?  I have no way to tell.

Lew N6LEW




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[KD8NNU]

I asked this question awhile back as I need to turn off the additional mike
gain and could not get it to work either.  Elecraft replied that you needed
to tap the [7] button as you found out and the manual was incorrect.

So I guess we need to request that then get then next version of the manual
updated.

~73
Don
KD8NNU
-.- -.. ---.. -. -. ..-
-----Original Message-----
From: Lewis Phelps
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:02 PM
To: [hidden email] List
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Manual Error? Software error?

I recently acquired a Kenwood MC-90 desk mic from a "for sale" list posted
here. It's a great microphone, but with a VERY low output level.  Even with
MIC GAIN cranked all the way up to 60, it wouldn't move the ALC indicator
unless I literally shouted into it. (Yes, I had selected "FP-H on the mic
setup.)

Then I found the following in the K3 Operating Manual, page 52:
For the front-panel mic only, tap [3] to turn on an additional gain stage.
Use this only with very low-output mics. An apostrophe will appear after the
H , e.g. H ’ .

I rushed to try that.  Result:  "N/A".

But....while fiddling around trying to find out why the [3] button wasn't
doing what it was supposed to do, I more or less accidentally tapped the [7]
button, and the magic apostrophe appeared after the H.  And most
importantly, I now have enough amplification for the Kenwood mic to be
functional.

It would seem that there are only two explanations for this:

1. The manual is wrong.
2. Bad firmware.

Anybody know which answer is correct?  I have no way to tell.

Lew N6LEW




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[Don Wilhelm-4]

Lew,

The manual is not correct.  That has been pointed out before and will be
corrected.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/27/2013 5:02 PM, Lewis Phelps wrote:

> I recently acquired a Kenwood MC-90 desk mic from a "for sale" list posted here. It's a great microphone, but with a VERY low output level.  Even with MIC GAIN cranked all the way up to 60, it wouldn't move the ALC indicator unless I literally shouted into it. (Yes, I had selected "FP-H on the mic setup.)
>
> Then I found the following in the K3 Operating Manual, page 52:
> For the front-panel mic only, tap [3] to turn on an additional gain stage. Use this only with very low-output mics. An apostrophe will appear after the H , e.g. H ’ .
>
> I rushed to try that.  Result:  "N/A".
>
> But....while fiddling around trying to find out why the [3] button wasn't doing what it was supposed to do, I more or less accidentally tapped the [7] button, and the magic apostrophe appeared after the H.  And most importantly, I now have enough amplification for the Kenwood mic to be functional.
>
> It would seem that there are only two explanations for this:
>
> 1. The manual is wrong.
> 2. Bad firmware.
>
> Anybody know which answer is correct?  I have no way to tell.
>

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