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[K3] Modification day for SN 01195

Nick Kennedy
  I've been storing up a list of modifications I wanted to install in my
K3 (S/N 01195, July 2008) and managed finally to do them today.  Due to
the number (nine) and varying descriptions, purposes and locations in
the rig, I tried to organize my thinking by putting them in a list,
trying to see which ones I really need or want, how hard they might be
to install, and which ones might be best done together due to being on
the same board, etc.  Some are documented in Elecraft's modification
kits & parts area and some in the application notes area.

I started by putting all of the PDFs into a directory of "official K3
modifications" so I could study them.  The ones applicable to my K3's
vintage were -

K3AFMDKT --- Improve speaker & line out distortion and IMD

K3DSPLPF --- Active audio LPF to reduce artifacts in the audio chain,
add daughter board to DSP board

K3IOBUFFKT -- Increase signal level at I.F. output by more than 10 dB

AFOPMDKT -- Protect audio amp from short circuit or low impedance loads

App Note -- Extreme signal RX protection mod

App Note -- Protect against RF pickup at microphone connection by
bypassing RF choke

App Note -- Protect against chirp from synthesizer by increasing DDS
signal driving the PLL

App Note -- Improve immunity of RS232 and audio connections to RF by
bypassing RF chokes

App Note -- K3 SYN ALC mod.  Assure enough drive when in high
temperature environment

Descriptions are my paraphrase and might not be totally accurate.

Anyway, I did all of these today and made notes on the degree of
difficulty and which ones might best work at the same time here -

http://pages.suddenlink.net/wa5bdu/k3_mods.pdf

If you have a similar vintage K3 and haven't kept up on mods, they might
be of interest.

None of them were really difficult for me, and the instructions were
complete and accurate.  I should say, I assembled my K3 from a kit, I do
a lot of homebrewing but it's pretty ugly, and my vision wouldn't allow
SMT work with just my bifocals, but with a 10x jeweler's loupe jammed
into my good eye I do OK.

I did all the mods today and didn't put anything back together until I'd
finished them all.  Doing it this way, it's important to bag or
otherwise segregate all of the screws or other hardware from each cover
or component removed and keep each piece in a separate place with its
own hardware.

I was most interested in the lowpass filter.  I'm no golden ear, but
possibly the power of suggestion made me think I heard some of the
harshness others described.  I found myself cranking the bandpass way
down toward the low end.  At least preliminarily, I think I do notice
the improvement in the quality of the sound (I work CW) with the LPF
installed.

I'm pleased with Elecraft's way of publishing instructions and making
mod kits available.  Not to diss any other manufacturers, but most have
a "no user serviceable parts inside" approach.

73-

Nick, WA5BDU
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Re: [K3] Modification day for SN 01195

Bill W4ZV
Nick-WA5BDU wrote
K3DSPLPF --- Active audio LPF to reduce artifacts in the audio chain,
add daughter board to DSP board

<SNIP>

I was most interested in the lowpass filter.  I'm no golden ear, but
possibly the power of suggestion made me think I heard some of the
harshness others described.  I found myself cranking the bandpass way
down toward the low end.  At least preliminarily, I think I do notice
the improvement in the quality of the sound (I work CW) with the LPF
installed.
http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_parts.htm

K3DSPUPGD   Improves low freq RX/TX audio response below 300 Hz, and adds a Low Pass Filter (LPF) that rolls off RX audio above 4 kHz.

K3DSPLPF   Small LPF add on SMD board for earlier K3 DSP boards that adds a Low Pass Filter to roll off RX audio above 4 kHz. This is already included on the K3DSPUPGD (above)

I believe it's the DSP mod which improves audio response at the low end.  The DSPLPF rolls off audio artifacts above 4 kHz.  

I use low pitch settings of 300-440 Hz and have considered both mods but haven't yet decided it's worthwhile.  Without having two units (one with and one without) to compare, it's tough to know whether I'd notice any difference.

73,  Bill
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Re: [K3] Modification day for SN 01195

M0XDF
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Thank you, I am in the same position and about to do the same thing, figuring out which mods go where etc - I might just be taking the whole rig apart!
Thanks for sharing that.
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108

The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom. -Isaac Asimov, scientist and writer (1920-1992)

On 26 Aug 2010, at 02:54, Nick-WA5BDU wrote:

>  I've been storing up a list of modifications I wanted to install in my
> K3 (S/N 01195, July 2008) and managed finally to do them today.  Due to
> the number (nine) and varying descriptions, purposes and locations in
> the rig, I tried to organize my thinking by putting them in a list,
> trying to see which ones I really need or want, how hard they might be
> to install, and which ones might be best done together due to being on
> the same board, etc.  Some are documented in Elecraft's modification
> kits & parts area and some in the application notes area.

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Re: [K3] Modification day for SN 01195

Joe Subich, W4TV-4
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Bill,

 > I use low pitch settings of 300-440 Hz and have considered both mods
 > but haven't yet decided it's worthwhile.  Without having two units
 > (one with and one without) to compare, it's tough to know whether I'd
 > notice any difference.

I added the LPF to my Rev.B DSP board and found that worthwhile.  I
can certainly notice the decrease in high frequency "garbage" in both
speaker (Sony "bookshelf" speakers) and headphone (200/120 Ohm) audio.

The only receive effect of the DSP upgrade is to decrease the LF corner
frequency when using headphones.  The corner (-3 dB point) frequency is
dependent on the headphone impedance.  Here is a comparison of the
original 10 uF coupling capacitors and the new DSP board with 100 uF caps:

  Z       Original   Modified   Notes
---------------------------------------
600       26 Hz       3 Hz
400       39 Hz       4 Hz
200       80 Hz       8 Hz     Heil ProSet
150      101 Hz      10 Hz     Senheiser PC-350
120      124 Hz      12 Hz     Yamaha CM-500
  64      221 Hz      22 Hz     Senheiser HD-280 Pro
  32      398 Hz      40 Hz     Direct Sound EX-29
  24      497 Hz     50 Hz     Sony MDR-V150
  16      663 Hz      66 Hz     Etymotic ER6i, HF5
   8      995 Hz      99 Hz     Yaesu YH-55

The obvious conclusion is that the new DSP board reduces the corner
frequency by a factor of 10 (as expected).  Whether it matters to a
given user depends on his headphone preference and the importance of
LF response.  With your EX-29, you might find the DSP replacement a
plus; with my CM-500, I decided to pass on the DSP board replacement.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV

On 8/25/2010 10:17 PM, Bill W4ZV wrote:

>
>
> Nick-WA5BDU wrote:
>>
>> K3DSPLPF --- Active audio LPF to reduce artifacts in the audio chain,
>> add daughter board to DSP board
>>
>> <SNIP>
>>
>> I was most interested in the lowpass filter.  I'm no golden ear, but
>> possibly the power of suggestion made me think I heard some of the
>> harshness others described.  I found myself cranking the bandpass way
>> down toward the low end.  At least preliminarily, I think I do notice
>> the improvement in the quality of the sound (I work CW) with the LPF
>> installed.
>>
>
> http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_parts.htm
>
> K3DSPUPGD   Improves low freq RX/TX audio response below 300 Hz, and adds
> a Low Pass Filter (LPF) that rolls off RX audio above 4 kHz.
>
> K3DSPLPF   Small LPF add on SMD board for earlier K3 DSP boards that adds
> a Low Pass Filter to roll off RX audio above 4 kHz. This is already included
> on the K3DSPUPGD (above)
>
> I believe it's the DSP mod which improves audio response at the low end.
> The DSPLPF rolls off audio artifacts above 4 kHz.
>
> I use low pitch settings of 300-440 Hz and have considered both mods but
> haven't yet decided it's worthwhile.  Without having two units (one with and
> one without) to compare, it's tough to know whether I'd notice any
> difference.
>
> 73,  Bill
>
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Re: [K3] Modification day for SN 01195

drewko
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Thanks for the helpful info, Nick. I have an unmodified K3 of the same
vintage and just yesterday was trying to decide what order to perform
the mods.

A couple of mods I didn't notice on your list that might be applicable
are the Systhesizer Stiffener Plate and the 12v Sense mod.

I'll skip the synth plate as that doesn't seem to be a problem with my
K3 (I have attached a baffle to the back of my speaker). As for the
12v sense, I haven't had any problems but seems like I might as well
install it.

73,
Drew
AF2Z




On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:54:32 -0500, Nick, WA5BDU wrote:

>  I've been storing up a list of modifications I wanted to install in my
>K3 (S/N 01195, July 2008) and managed finally to do them today.  Due to
>the number (nine) and varying descriptions, purposes and locations in
>the rig, I tried to organize my thinking by putting them in a list,
>trying to see which ones I really need or want, how hard they might be
>to install, and which ones might be best done together due to being on
>the same board, etc.  Some are documented in Elecraft's modification
>kits & parts area and some in the application notes area.
>

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